Are all the Pro-Palestine, anti Israel protests helping or hurting the Democrats?

[uncle bernard]

read this thread. our government is fully aware what’s going on. 

[Scouts Honor]

[BuckyBadger]

@uncle bernard Putting aside the issue of where one stands on this conflict, do you think the nature of some the protests have crossed any sort of line?

Examples would be visibly Jewish students walking to class being accosted/surrounded and chanted at?

Reports of protesters chanting “kill the Jews”.

Occupying campus buildings, which are clearly against university policy.

Are their ground rules for how a protest should be conducted? And consequences when those rules broken?

Edited April 28 by BuckyBadger

[JimmyBT]

16 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

read this thread. our government is fully aware what’s going on. 

Yep. They’re fully aware that the terrorists are holding hostages that include Americans.  

[JimmyBT]

On 4/26/2024 at 11:45 AM, uncle bernard said:

Are you concerned about a peaceful protestor being slammed to the ground or not? Where's the outrage over free speech and freedom that you think makes this the greatest country in the world? Show some consistency and integrity. 

You’re far from consistent when it comes to both sides.  You defend one and obliterate the other.  

[JimmyBT]

On 4/26/2024 at 6:29 PM, uncle bernard said:

that’s not always what happens but if the civilians don’t leave then yes. i know this is hard to accept but the other side cheating doesn’t make it okay to mass kill civilians. 

if they want our tax dollars and our guns, they should follow the rules of war they agreed to. 

Like Ukraine does  

[braves121]

1 hour ago, JimmyBT said:

Like Ukraine does  

What war crimes have Ukraine committed?

Edited April 28 by braves121

[Offthemat]

17 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

read this thread. our government is fully aware what’s going on. 

No sir, these folks are lying and distorting the truth.  I read an article that said a couple of inputs were derogatory but most found no issue or variance with Israel’s claims.  
 

It’s most egregious that you claim some level of fairness saying both sides are wrong, but Israel is somehow the worst.  You claim that it’s genocide, that the IDF is killing 20 ‘civilians’ to get one terrorist, but the analysts say that the number of ‘civilian’ deaths are below 2-1.  That’s the lowest known number of civilian casualties in history for urban warfare.  It’s less accurate because 75% of those ‘civilians’ fully support what happened on October 7th, and want Hamas to continue killing Jews, while a large number of ‘civilians’ participated in October 7th and the mistreatment of hostages afterwards.  
 

So your malicious exaggeration and feigned objectivity make your antisemitism evident to anyone with a room temperature IQ.  
 

As for the protesters, there are some well paid instigators leading some well heeled skulls full of mush, aided by incompetent, elitist faculty, towards self destruction.  

[BuckyBadger]

 

[braves121]

28 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

No sir, these folks are lying and distorting the truth.  I read an article that said a couple of inputs were derogatory but most found no issue or variance with Israel’s claims.  
 

It’s most egregious that you claim some level of fairness saying both sides are wrong, but Israel is somehow the worst.  You claim that it’s genocide, that the IDF is killing 20 ‘civilians’ to get one terrorist, but the analysts say that the number of ‘civilian’ deaths are below 2-1.  That’s the lowest known number of civilian casualties in history for urban warfare.  It’s less accurate because 75% of those ‘civilians’ fully support what happened on October 7th, and want Hamas to continue killing Jews, while a large number of ‘civilians’ participated in October 7th and the mistreatment of hostages afterwards.  
 

So your malicious exaggeration and feigned objectivity make your antisemitism evident to anyone with a room temperature IQ.  
 

As for the protesters, there are some well paid instigators leading some well heeled skulls full of mush, aided by incompetent, elitist faculty, towards self destruction.  

Do you have a source for the 2–1 civilian deaths? Is it one of the sources that counts children women and journalists as combatants?

[uncle bernard]

5 hours ago, JimmyBT said:

You’re far from consistent when it comes to both sides.  You defend one and obliterate the other.  

find one instance of me defending hamas or saying they’re good. 

[JimmyBT]

4 hours ago, braves121 said:

What war crimes have Ukraine committed?

They’re under investigation for war crimes. Look it up. 

[JimmyBT]

8 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

find one instance of me defending hamas or saying they’re good. 

When you start bashing hamas like you do Israel maybe you’ll be taken seriously.  And numerous times when I’ve ripped on hamas for Oct 7th and getting what’s coming to them you’ve responded with “but but but Israel killed thousands before Oct 7th.  So what?   Oct 7th didn’t need to happen.  

Edited April 28 by JimmyBT

[uncle bernard]

6 hours ago, BuckyBadger said:

@uncle bernard Putting aside the issue of where one stands on this conflict, do you think the nature of some the protests have crossed any sort of line?

Examples would be visibly Jewish students walking to class being accosted/surrounded and chanted at?

Reports of protesters chanting “kill the Jews”.

Occupying campus buildings, which are clearly against university policy.

Are their ground rules for how a protest should be conducted? And consequences when those rules broken?

the notable example of “kill the jews” was confirmed (on video and by journalists on site) to be from a pro-israel protestor. 

the vast majority of these are peaceful until the police show up. 

people will always find reasons for why they support free speech but *this* time is different. a lot of people tend to be anti-war and pro-civil rights except for the war and protests going on right now. 

i’ve been at a protest for the last 3 days. the only time it gets confrontational is when the police show up to enforce a rule the university instituted overnight to give them an excuse to break up the protest. the rest of the time it’s a few hundred people sitting in the campus designated protest zone sharing food, singing, chanting, doing homework, and getting sun. israeli counter protesters show up and try to provoke us and we just by saying offensive things and we just laugh and ignore them. 

yet, when you go online, this encampment is described by many sources as violent and confrontational with isolated clips of when the riot police show up and assault people. it’s insane. 

[uncle bernard]

6 minutes ago, JimmyBT said:

They’re under investigation for war crimes. Look it up. 

so you do care about war crimes? guess who else is under extensive investigation!

[uncle bernard]

2 minutes ago, JimmyBT said:

When you start bashing hamas like you do Israel maybe you’ll be taken seriously. 

why would i waste time bashing a terrorist group? i think we all know they’re bad. do you need to be convinced still about hamas being bad?

[JimmyBT]

Just now, uncle bernard said:

why would i waste time bashing a terrorist group? i think we all know they’re bad. do you need to be convinced still about hamas being bad?

Because you don’t think they’re as bad as Israel.  

[JimmyBT]

2 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

so you do care about war crimes? guess who else is under extensive investigation!

He asked I answered.   He was the one ignoring the war crimes by Ukraine. 

[JimmyBT]

4 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

the notable example of “kill the jews” was confirmed (on video and by journalists on site) to be from a pro-israel protestor. 

the vast majority of these are peaceful until the police show up. 

people will always find reasons for why they support free speech but *this* time is different. a lot of people tend to be anti-war and pro-civil rights except for the war and protests going on right now. 

i’ve been at a protest for the last 3 days. the only time it gets confrontational is when the police show up to enforce a rule the university instituted overnight to give them an excuse to break up the protest. the rest of the time it’s a few hundred people sitting in the campus designated protest zone sharing food, singing, chanting, doing homework, and getting sun. israeli counter protesters show up and try to provoke us and we just by saying offensive things and we just laugh and ignore them. 

yet, when you go online, this encampment is described by many sources as violent and confrontational with isolated clips of when the riot police show up and assault people. it’s insane. 

The vast majority.   Bahahhahahahahaha.   But but but 

Edited April 28 by JimmyBT

[uncle bernard]

1 minute ago, JimmyBT said:

He asked I answered.   He was the one ignoring the war crimes by Ukraine. 

so you do or don’t care about war crimes? simple answer will suffice. 

[JimmyBT]

7 minutes ago, JimmyBT said:

When you start bashing hamas like you do Israel maybe you’ll be taken seriously.  And numerous times when I’ve ripped on hamas for Oct 7th and getting what’s coming to them you’ve responded with “but but but Israel killed thousands before Oct 7th.  So what?   Oct 7th didn’t need to happen.  

Defending. 

[JimmyBT]

1 minute ago, uncle bernard said:

so you do or don’t care about war crimes? simple answer will suffice. 

 

1 minute ago, uncle bernard said:

so you do or don’t care about war crimes? simple answer will suffice. 

Not against terrorists 

[uncle bernard]

4 minutes ago, JimmyBT said:

Because you don’t think they’re as bad as Israel.  

no matter how many times i say its not true you guys just keep repeating the lie anyway. so whatever

[JimmyBT]

Just now, uncle bernard said:

no matter how many times i say its not true you guys just keep repeating the lie anyway. so whatever

It’s obvious by your posts.  You don’t consider them the same.  So ya whatever. 

[uncle bernard]

3 hours ago, Offthemat said:

No sir, these folks are lying and distorting the truth.  I read an article that said a couple of inputs were derogatory but most found no issue or variance with Israel’s claims.  
 

It’s most egregious that you claim some level of fairness saying both sides are wrong, but Israel is somehow the worst.  You claim that it’s genocide, that the IDF is killing 20 ‘civilians’ to get one terrorist, but the analysts say that the number of ‘civilian’ deaths are below 2-1.  That’s the lowest known number of civilian casualties in history for urban warfare.  It’s less accurate because 75% of those ‘civilians’ fully support what happened on October 7th, and want Hamas to continue killing Jews, while a large number of ‘civilians’ participated in October 7th and the mistreatment of hostages afterwards.  
 

So your malicious exaggeration and feigned objectivity make your antisemitism evident to anyone with a room temperature IQ.  
 

As for the protesters, there are some well paid instigators leading some well heeled skulls full of mush, aided by incompetent, elitist faculty, towards self destruction.  

if you want to believe this fine. our pro-israel government disagrees and i think they probably have better sources than you.