John Smith retires

[MPhillips]

  On 5/1/2024 at 10:45 PM, 1032004 said:

Does OK state have more procedures than Cornell?  Looks like it took them about a day to promote Grey when Koll left

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[1032004]

  On 5/1/2024 at 11:03 PM, ionel said:

They can be different. 

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So you’re saying it’s gonna be Coleman?

[ionel]

  On 5/2/2024 at 12:02 AM, 1032004 said:

So you’re saying it’s gonna be Coleman?

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Did you watch the Fix finals?  Coleman was dressed like a new head coach, John was dressed like a guy heading out to go fishing.  Yes!

[wrestle87]

  On 5/1/2024 at 10:45 PM, 1032004 said:

Does OK state have more procedures than Cornell?  Looks like it took them about a day to promote Grey when Koll left

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Very likely yes.  The OK State head coach will be a public employee, very different from being on staff at a private school (yes I know cornell has certain programs which are considered part of the state school system).

[flyingcement]

  On 5/1/2024 at 10:45 PM, 1032004 said:

Does OK state have more procedures than Cornell?  Looks like it took them about a day to promote Grey when Koll left

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I imagine being a fully fledged state school, funded with taxes, there are additional layers or regulatory hoops to jump through

Edited May 2, 2024 by flyingcement

[ionel]

  On 5/2/2024 at 4:03 AM, flyingcement said:

I imagine being a fully fledged state school, funded with taxes, there are additional layers or regulatory hoops to jump through

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Is that you Jimmy?  You are sounding far too reasonable.  

[MPhillips]

  On 5/2/2024 at 4:03 AM, flyingcement said:

there are additional layers or regulatory hoops to jump through

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Like an application process?

[ionel]

  On 5/2/2024 at 5:35 AM, MPhillips said:

Like an application process?

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don't be silly 

[1032004]

  On 5/2/2024 at 4:03 AM, flyingcement said:

I imagine being a fully fledged state school, funded with taxes, there are additional layers or regulatory hoops to jump through

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Well look at last year with Scott’s replacement at state school UNC, only took them 2 weeks.   But I know that was closer to the start of the season.

 

 

 

[de4856]

Well John Smith is an iconic legend as both a wrestler and coach. The sport of wrestling is in a better place because of him. Congrats 

[MPhillips]

  On 5/2/2024 at 2:27 PM, 1032004 said:

Well look at last year with Scott’s replacement at state school UNC, only took them 2 weeks.   But I know that was closer to the start of the season.

 

 

 

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You must know something and you're just out here chumming the water...

[ionel]

  On 5/2/2024 at 2:34 PM, MPhillips said:

You must know something and you're just out here chumming the water...

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Maybe he thinks they are holding out for JB & DT as co-head coaches?  

[1032004]

  On 5/2/2024 at 2:40 PM, ionel said:

Maybe he thinks they are holding out for JB & DT as co-head coaches?  

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No, but maybe Pop isn’t out of the question?

[ionel]

  On 5/2/2024 at 4:15 PM, 1032004 said:

No, but maybe Pop isn’t out of the question?

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I'm sure they already talked to Pop and the others when deciding what course to take.

[1032004]

Sounds like Pyle on FRL is thinking along the same lines as me (not Pop specifically, but the fact that Scott hasn’t been officially named may mean they continue to explore other options).

[MPhillips]

  On 5/2/2024 at 4:29 PM, 1032004 said:

Sounds like Pyle on FRL is thinking along the same lines as me

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Quite the saga...

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

  On 5/2/2024 at 4:25 PM, ionel said:

I'm sure they already talked to Pop and the others when deciding what course to take.

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He may have been first?

[ionel]

  On 5/2/2024 at 4:56 PM, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

He may have been first?

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Very likely.  

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

  On 5/2/2024 at 4:58 PM, ionel said:

Very likely.  

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Yes.  Lots of success over Coleman Scott for one thing.  Also: Tremendous program builder and  developer of talent. Tons of job security.   Why go to Stillwater, which has much tougher competition in Big 12, worse location (sorry; I really like the triangle), to a school that has a history of firing a reigning coach of the year for taking 2nd in NCAA? 

[gromit]

  On 5/2/2024 at 5:02 PM, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Yes.  Lots of success over Coleman Scott for one thing.  Also: Tremendous program builder and  developer of talent. Tons of job security.   Why go to Stillwater, which has much tougher competition in Big 12, worse location (sorry; I really like the triangle), to a school that has a history of firing a reigning coach of the year for taking 2nd in NCAA? 

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really? Seay it ain't so

Edited May 2, 2024 by gromit

[1032004]

  On 5/2/2024 at 4:25 PM, ionel said:

I'm sure they already talked to Pop and the others when deciding what course to take.

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Are you referring to last year?  It’s not like Pop was going to take the Associate HC job.

[CowboyYe2024]

Do we think they interviewed more or less the 3 guys as of right now.

I bet Espo is beating himself up right now.

[1032004]

  On 5/2/2024 at 10:49 PM, CowboyYe2024 said:

Do we think they interviewed more or less the 3 guys as of right now.

I bet Espo is beating himself up right now.

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Was it his choice to leave?

[CowboyYe2024]

  On 5/2/2024 at 11:07 PM, 1032004 said:

Was it his choice to leave?

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Yes

[ionel]

  On 5/2/2024 at 10:20 PM, 1032004 said:

Are you referring to last year?  It’s not like Pop was going to take the Associate HC job.

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This was all thought out and planned, it started last year.