swoopdown Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Rank# 1 Lewan. Lew one-to-one (as someone called him) or Will Lewan "take a shot?" has come to epitomize this year's edition of the low score model with five or six low scoring OT bouts. A really tough out for most. Lewan vs Haines is the Ying and Yang of wrestling strengths and styles which makes it boring to many. As for me, it makes stressful not boring. Rank #2 - Bartlett. Beau probably scores more that Lewan because unlike Lewan (who is an immoble, inpenetratable rock) he is mobile. So Beau scores with go behinds on bad technique shots against him and he does typically shoot a few times during the course of a match. However, not getting the first TD usually is an insurmountable deficit against the better wresters. His hips may rank second only to Lewan in opponents who have bounced off them for the year. Rank #3 - Rocco Welsh. Only a freshman, he may develop great offense against the best. However, he must be on my list based on his match with Starocci. He fought great head and hands and kept a wrestler of Starocci's neutral talents from firing many shots. He didn't show any offensive firepower against Carter, and if he can slow it down again (Roc'n'Stall Welch) you have to give him a chance against the top offensive talents. Question is does he develop additional fire power in future seasons or does he settle into a Bartlett type mode. Who did I miss? . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 26 minutes ago, swoopdown said: Who did I miss? Interesting topic. The issue for the wrestlers you listed is they have opponents in their weight class who are equally if not better defensively with more offense. For example, 157 - Levi Haines is better defensively than Lewan, 174 - both Mekhi and Starocci are better defensively at this point in their careers, and at 149 Bartlett might be the best defensive wrestler at the weight but it's not so impenetrable that wrestlers like Woods or Mendez can't break through. But to add to your list Cole Matthews, Cam Amine, Dean Peterson, Daton Fix, & Rocky Elam 1 I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. PeanutButter Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Brett Ungar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Stankowski Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Mesenbrink 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zahnarzt Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 57 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: …and at 149 Bartlett might be the best defensive wrestler at the weight but it's not so impenetrable that wrestlers like Woods or Mendez can't break through. Eh, 141??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zahnarzt Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Hamiti’s funky defense looked great against Mesenbrink, until he ran out of gas. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 minute ago, Zahnarzt said: Eh, 141??? Whoops! I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisa morales Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Cohlton Schultz has a mountain of blubber ready to engulf the poor soul who dares shoots in on him. He's never taken a legitimate shot in his life. His girth is second to none. 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Possibly DeAug 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshuck Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Hamiti’s funky defense looked great against Mesenbrink, until he ran out of gas. It was a crazy shift in momentum, like a thrown boxing match. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestle87 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 2 hours ago, Zahnarzt said: Hamiti’s funky defense looked great against Mesenbrink, until he ran out of gas. Mesenbrink may win a title by not having much defense, and instead just having a bottomless gas tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 8 hours ago, CHROMEBIRD said: Possibly DeAug It's almost like his opponents are mesmerized by him and become offensively complacent. Perhaps they are mesmerized by his beard and/or overall caveman appearance. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3 for LU Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 9 hours ago, CHROMEBIRD said: Possibly DeAug 27 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: It's almost like his opponents are mesmerized by him and become offensively complacent. Perhaps they are mesmerized by his beard and/or overall caveman appearance. D3 1 Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCinnabon Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 8 hours ago, wrestle87 said: Mesenbrink may win a title by not having much defense, and instead just having a bottomless gas tank. I think where MM is vulnerable is that he isn't all that athletic. I know that sounds stupid with how good he is but I think his technique and motor are what makes him so good, not his athleticism. There were a few times this year when he looked downright goofy trying to defend an attack. There are just times when he looks really stiff when being defensive like I've never seen before where other guys would have easily countered for a takedown. He is just very technical with a wide variety of attacks coupled with a huge motor and insane chain wrestling. I think where he lacks is scrambling where athleticism is key and is why Hamiti was able to really dominate him until the MM motor was able to crush him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3 for LU Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 YES! D3 1 Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestle87 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 3 hours ago, JimmyCinnabon said: I think where MM is vulnerable is that he isn't all that athletic. I know that sounds stupid with how good he is but I think his technique and motor are what makes him so good, not his athleticism. There were a few times this year when he looked downright goofy trying to defend an attack. There are just times when he looks really stiff when being defensive like I've never seen before where other guys would have easily countered for a takedown. He is just very technical with a wide variety of attacks coupled with a huge motor and insane chain wrestling. I think where he lacks is scrambling where athleticism is key and is why Hamiti was able to really dominate him until the MM motor was able to crush him. That is a great point, I couldn't agree more. Retherford and Nick Lee actually kinda looked that way in their first few years. Retherford still does, moves like a robot, he's just so strong that it takes an exceptional individual to get him out of position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 5 hours ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: It's almost like his opponents are mesmerized by him and become offensively complacent. Perhaps they are mesmerized by his beard and/or overall caveman appearance. 5 hours ago, D3 for LU said: Would you want to tangle with that mess? If he hasn't shaved in 5 years has he showered within the last year? I'd stay away. 2 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 15 minutes ago, ionel said: Would you want to tangle with that mess? If he hasn't shaved in 5 years has he showered within the last year? I'd stay away. So that prevents opponents from attacking? Or perhaps they are less committed to attacks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Just now, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: So that prevents opponents from attacking? Or perhaps they are less committed to attacks? That's my thought. Would you attack that? Looks like a good defense mechanism. 1 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swoopdown Posted March 15 Author Share Posted March 15 Does DeAug know what year it is? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Cole Matthews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 hour ago, ionel said: If he hasn't shaved in 5 years has he showered within the last year? This is before he cut his hair and grew his beard. He was on tour, following Phish around the country, trading crystals for grilled cheese and a heady IPA... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 6 hours ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: It's almost like his opponents are mesmerized by him and become offensively complacent. Perhaps they are mesmerized by his beard and/or overall caveman appearance. I think DeAug is in a daze because he thinks he's Tom Hanks' character in Castaway and is too lonely and sad to wrestle. Bormet just needs to tell him to imagine a volleyball face on all his opponents, and he'll be fine 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 15 hours ago, headshuck said: It was a crazy shift in momentum, like a thrown boxing match. Agree. It looks like it might have been due to injury. You see him limping off the mat at the end of the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 24 minutes ago, MPhillips said: This is before he cut his hair and grew his beard. He was on tour, following Phish around the country, trading crystals for grilled cheese and a heady IPA... Am assuming you also have a pic of Davis first day on campus? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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