ionel Posted February 28 Posted February 28 1 minute ago, Wrestleknownothing said: yeah, unseeded is always tough. Is that the 9ish seed, the 13ish seed, the 17ish seed? In his case they seeded to 12, but regardless going from unseeded to first is pretty damn impressive. Maybe the HOF needs to add a wing. He came in with a losing record, he may have been the draw all the seeded guys wanted. 1 2BPE 11/17/24 SMC
Hammerlock3 Posted February 28 Posted February 28 1 hour ago, Idaho said: Yeah... and what does "make noise" at the NCAA mean? Darkhorse means a finish way above your ranking. i should admit that my operating definition of dark horse is someone who places in the top 3 that i personally never would have picked to place so high...and thats not a very fair metric...I noticed when @headshuck picked salazar, and i thought "oh thats solid", then he pointed out that salazar is top 5 which, which I didn't know... "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
Wrestleknownothing Posted February 28 Posted February 28 39 minutes ago, ionel said: I say BS ... you're not Irish ... you just like whiskey. Irish by ingestion Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
PortaJohn Posted February 28 Posted February 28 56 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Dark Horse HOF Wyatt "Chip and a Chair" Sheets - After an injury riddled season, comes in as the 33 seed at 157 in 2021 only after another wrestler had to withdraw (he was essentially the 34 seed), and takes 8th for a 25 slot improvement. Yahya "Yeah Yeah" Thomas - Also in 2021, Thomas entered 149 as the 25 seed after a shaky B1G tournie, only to catch a heater and finish 3rd for a 22 slot jump. Killian "So Nice I Will Do It Twice" Cardinale - There was something in the water in 2021. Cardinale entered that tournament as the 17 seed, but rallied to finish 7th at 125. Then, 2023 Cardinale told 2021 Cardinale to hold his beer. After having to take a med forfeit and an inj default at the ACC tournie, he snuck in as the 28 seed, before making the podium in 8th place. Great list but 2015 Zeke Moisey tops all of these 1 I Don't Agree With What I Posted
Pinnacle Posted February 28 Posted February 28 How is Meyer Shapiro a dark horse when nobody will be shocked if he makes finals? 1
KLCarnegieTech_1969 Posted February 28 Posted February 28 (edited) Cole Matthews/Pitt 141 MIcahel Beard/Lehigh 197 Caleb Henson (maybe not a dark horse)/V-Tech 149 Bastida Yonger/Iowa State 285 Edited February 28 by KLCarnegieTech_1969 correction 1
PortaJohn Posted February 28 Posted February 28 (edited) 7 minutes ago, KLCarnegieTech_1969 said: Cole Matthews David Beard Caleb Henson (maybe not a dark horse) Bastida Yonger Im assuming you meant Michael Beard? But none of those guys are dark horses Edited February 28 by PortaJohn 1 I Don't Agree With What I Posted
Bigbrog Posted February 28 Posted February 28 (edited) I hope the arguing about the definition of "darkhorse" keeps going.... What was the 125 lb kid from VT last year that had a super low seed and finished high on the podium...I guess I could go look it up...lol Edit: Eddie Ventresca - Finished 7th as a 27 seed Edited February 28 by Bigbrog 1
ionel Posted February 28 Posted February 28 7 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: Great list but 2015 Zeke Moisey tops all of these Might top those but not Branch. 2BPE 11/17/24 SMC
PortaJohn Posted February 28 Posted February 28 If the tournament was seeded today the lowest seed with the highest potential would be Richard Figueroa. 1 I Don't Agree With What I Posted
PortaJohn Posted February 28 Posted February 28 3 minutes ago, ionel said: Might top those but not Branch. Never said it did I Don't Agree With What I Posted
KLCarnegieTech_1969 Posted February 28 Posted February 28 (edited) 6 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: Il assuming you meant Michael Beard? But none of those guys are dark horses Yes Michael Beard. Why not dark horses? Dark horses from the past or this year? Edited February 28 by KLCarnegieTech_1969
Wrestleknownothing Posted February 28 Posted February 28 3 minutes ago, Bigbrog said: I hope the arguing about the definition of "darkhorse" keeps going.... What was the 125 lb kid from VT last year that had a super low seed and finished high on the podium...I guess I could go look it up...lol Ventresca 27 to 7 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
ionel Posted February 28 Posted February 28 1 minute ago, PortaJohn said: Never said it did Never said you said it did. 2BPE 11/17/24 SMC
MPhillips Posted February 28 Posted February 28 1 minute ago, KLCarnegieTech_1969 said: Why not dark horses? Because they're highly ranked and regarded and have a solid chance... 1 .
PortaJohn Posted February 28 Posted February 28 1 minute ago, KLCarnegieTech_1969 said: Yes Michael Beard. And, why are they not dark horses? I'm honestly not trying to come off as arrogant but I really don't think this needs to be explained 1 I Don't Agree With What I Posted
Rassling Posted February 28 Posted February 28 (edited) 14 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: Great list but 2015 Zeke Moisey tops all of these Damn right - first unseeded wrestler to make the NCAA finals since 2003. This is why, for me as a fan - stats at this point mean squat. I’ll never forget the excitement behind his run through the bracket. Edited February 28 by Rassling
Wrestleknownothing Posted February 28 Posted February 28 Just now, Rassling said: Damn right - first unseeded wrestler to make the NCAA finals since 2003. This is why, for me as a fan - stats at this point mean squat. I’ll never forget the excitement behind his run through the bracket. First unseeded wrestler to make the NCAA finals since 2003 But you quoted a stat to make the case for why it is exciting. 2 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
Rassling Posted February 28 Posted February 28 12 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: But you quoted a stat to make the case for why it is exciting. Yea, and I’ll do it again.
Hammerlock3 Posted February 28 Posted February 28 29 minutes ago, Pinnacle said: How is Meyer Shapiro a dark horse when nobody will be shocked if he makes finals? and people were picking him to win it before the season started....that toothpaste doesn't go back in the tube. 1 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
PortaJohn Posted February 28 Posted February 28 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Pinnacle said: How is Meyer Shapiro a dark horse when nobody will be shocked if he makes finals? 7 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: and people were picking him to win it before the season started....that toothpaste doesn't go back in the tube. One poster listed him. Let's all calm down. No one else thinks he's a dark horse edit... ok I saw two posters mention him. Now I'm worried of an impending apocalypse. @Hammerlock3 do your thing. Argue these two posters into oblivion. It's our only chance for survival Edited February 28 by PortaJohn 2 2 I Don't Agree With What I Posted
MPhillips Posted February 28 Posted February 28 3 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: One poster listed him. What happened to... 26 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: I really don't think this needs to be explained 1 .
PortaJohn Posted February 28 Posted February 28 4 minutes ago, MPhillips said: What happened to... Many of life's course corrections 1 I Don't Agree With What I Posted
WrestlingFan89 Posted February 28 Posted February 28 1 hour ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Dark Horse HOF Wyatt "Chip and a Chair" Sheets - After an injury riddled season, comes in as the 33 seed at 157 in 2021 only after another wrestler had to withdraw (he was essentially the 34 seed), and takes 8th for a 25 slot improvement. Yahya "Yeah Yeah" Thomas - Also in 2021, Thomas entered 149 as the 25 seed after a shaky B1G tournie, only to catch a heater and finish 3rd for a 22 slot jump. Killian "So Nice I Will Do It Twice" Cardinale - There was something in the water in 2021. Cardinale entered that tournament as the 17 seed, but rallied to finish 7th at 125. Then, 2023 Cardinale told 2021 Cardinale to hold his beer. After having to take a med forfeit and an inj default at the ACC tournie, he snuck in as the 28 seed, before making the podium in 8th place. West Virginia is in the Big12, but I wouldn’t expect you to know this.
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