Cliff Keen Las Vegas Wrestling Invitational

[RandolphTJones]

10 hours ago, flyingcement said:

 Binoculars 

I've heard the set up sucks if you go in person. 

[Jason Bryant]

I've heard the set up sucks if you go in person. 

It’s pretty sterile. 10 mats, bleachers don’t get too high so sight lines can be impacted. Too bad the Orleans Arena isn’t an option.

[RandolphTJones]

1 hour ago, Jason Bryant said:

It’s pretty sterile. 10 mats, bleachers don’t get too high so sight lines can be impacted. Too bad the Orleans Arena isn’t an option.

Well I stand corrected, sounds like a good excuse to make another trip to Vegas, hopefully I'll make it back in 1 piece & some dignity next time. 

[flyingcement]

Thanks for the tips guys - I won't be going this year, but I'm a four hour drive away so I was thinking about it some time when my son is a little older

I've only been to Vegas once - didn't particularly enjoy it.  It was okay.  not my type of place.  

Edited December 1, 2022 by flyingcement

[Ban Basketball]

I've never understood why they've always kept this great tournament there. 

Anyone who is a rasslin fan has to travel to watch it in person,  Nevada and rasslin is like Iowa and surfing,  and NO ONE goes to it. 

I wonder when the "a-ha" moment will hit that it would be more lucrative and practical elsewhere. 

[bnwtwg]

18 minutes ago, Ban Basketball said:

I've never understood why they've always kept this great tournament there. 

Anyone who is a rasslin fan has to travel to watch it in person,  Nevada and rasslin is like Iowa and surfing,  and NO ONE goes to it. 

I wonder when the "a-ha" moment will hit that it would be more lucrative and practical elsewhere. 

It’s a destination tourney for the families attending (that is the theory, not necessarily the reality). Plus if I remember correctly from a couple decades ago the original benefactor wanted to spread wrestling out west but that could very well just be an urban legend in my brain.

[NotMikeMal]

Any 197lb sleepers to place? 
#9 seed - Unranked 

 

 

need it for my fantasy pick ‘em team. Thanks 

[bnwtwg]

Listen here @Ban Basketball aka NJDan. I don’t need or want you throwing me likes. You’re only here because you make me the second dumbest member of this forum. While I appreciate that you are the Boone’s Farm to my Franzia for self-preservation purposes, that doesn’t mean we are going to do business together.

[BerniePragle]

5 hours ago, bnwtwg said:

Listen here @Ban Basketball aka NJDan. I don’t need or want you throwing me likes. You’re only here because you make me the second dumbest member of this forum. While I appreciate that you are the Boone’s Farm to my Franzia for self-preservation purposes, that doesn’t mean we are going to do business together.

Dang, that's the funniest thing I've seen in a while.  And, I don't even know what Franzia is.

[nhs67]

5 hours ago, bnwtwg said:

Listen here @Ban Basketball aka NJDan. I don’t need or want you throwing me likes. You’re only here because you make me the second dumbest member of this forum. While I appreciate that you are the Boone’s Farm to my Franzia for self-preservation purposes, that doesn’t mean we are going to do business together.

The company you keep...

[nhs67]

Friday, December 2nd

12:00 PM:

R1 - Pig Tail Championship

R2 - Championship Round of 32

R3 - Consolation Round of 32

R4 - Championship Round of 16, Consolation 1st Round of 16

R5 - Consolation 2nd Round of 16

9:00 PM:

R6 - Championship Quarter-Finals, Consolation 1st Round of 8

Saturday, December 3rd

12:00 PM:

R7 - Consolation 2nd Round of 8

1:00 pm:

R8 - Championship Semi-Finals

R9 - Consolation Semi-Finals, Finals 5th/6th, 7th/8th Placement Matches

6:00 PM:

R10 - Finals, 1st/2nd, 3rd/4th Placement Matches

All times in US-Eastern

[DiverDownBrian]

13 hours ago, Ban Basketball said:

I've never understood why they've always kept this great tournament there. 

Anyone who is a rasslin fan has to travel to watch it in person,  Nevada and rasslin is like Iowa and surfing,  and NO ONE goes to it. 

I wonder when the "a-ha" moment will hit that it would be more lucrative and practical elsewhere. 

FWIW ... We flew in from Raleigh to watch it  ... so SOMEONE will be going to it

[RandolphTJones]

44 minutes ago, DiverDownBrian said:

FWIW ... We flew in from Raleigh to watch it  ... so SOMEONE will be going to it

Or like Kentucky and good lookin' women. 

[Idaho]

Getting ready to roll here in a few hours.... Best regular season tournament of the year.... anybody got picks going for a/all weights?  Two wrestlers who I think will turn some heads this weekend are two Oregon kids .... Lamer and Harvey. 

 

[nhs67]

14 hours ago, Ban Basketball said:

I've never understood why they've always kept this great tournament there. 

Anyone who is a rasslin fan has to travel to watch it in person,  Nevada and rasslin is like Iowa and surfing,  and NO ONE goes to it. 

I wonder when the "a-ha" moment will hit that it would be more lucrative and practical elsewhere. 

It's Vegas.  That is why they keep it there you Turdbiscuit.  If you can't ubderstand that, as an American, then you need to just quit... everything.  Quit everything - everywhere.

[jajensen09]

Don't count nebraska out! 

[nhs67]

Brackets are out.

https://arena.flowrestling.org/event/b01f698a-722e-4e8f-a512-c4201deabec4

[nhs67]

Greetings All,

With the release of the brackets today, revised thoughts for the semi-finals, finals, and 3rd place winners, as well as thoughts for the Michigan gents in this bracket...

Also... no Bullock at 197 for Michigan?  Yatooma?  Are you kidding me?

- 125 -

Semi-Finals: Figueroa over DeAugustino, Ramos over Kaylor

Finals: Ramos over Figueroa via Decision

3rd place: Heinselman

Thoughts: I think Figs shows everyone here that he does contend, just as much as Courtney would/will.  McHenry loses to him, then the grind of the backside will get to him that will show that he is just meant to be a 118lber.  I think 1-2 wins is peak for him here.

- 133 -

Semi-Finals: Arujau over Latona, Ragusin over McGee

Finals: Arujau over Ragusin via Decision

3rd place: McGee

Thoughts:  I think Ragusin is going to show here that he belongs in the conversation with Arujau for #3 in what will be a much closer bout than folks thought before this weekend.

- 141 -

Semi-Finals: Mattin over Jack, Cornella over D'Emilio

Finals: Mattin over via Cornella via Decision

3rd place: Carlson

Thoughts:  Mattin is a grinder and I think where he is most in danger is going to be Vasquez - if Vasquez gets past Hardy.  It is someone who will be able to out-quick and out-athlete him enough to where he can't get his grind on.  He is set up beautifully to miss those highly athletic 141lbers all the way through the finals.

- 149 -

Semi-Finals: Sasso over Thomas, Lamer over Millner

Finals: Sasso over Lamer via Decision

3rd place: Parco

Thoughts:  I really think this is going to be Lamer's coming out party and he will beat two gents folks consider high contenders en route to getting controlled in the finals.

- 157 -

Semi-Finals: Lewan over Coleman, Robb over Scott

Finals: Lwan over Robb via Decision

3rd place: Coleman

Thoughts:  I think Lewan could win 3-2/3-1 in every match through the finals.  I am more worried about a Coleman match than a Robb, tbh.  I think a healthy Coleman is as much of a contender for a NC as any 157lber in the Top 10.

- 165 -

Semi-Finals: Kharchla over Yant, Olguin over Formato

Finals: Kharchla over Olguin via Major

3rd place: Cook

Thoughts:  Mattin has Ramirez in the first round and I think he is going to try to throw the sink at him... and fail - unfortunately.  I do think that the bottom half of this bracket is very likely to ge tblown up.  Olguin and Formato are real threats to knock Ramirez off, and I think they will.

- 174 -

Semi-Finals: Smith over Lewis, Labriola over Walker

Finals: Smith over Labriola via Decision

3rd place: Lewis

Thoughts:  A lot of very physical, very tough gents here.  I think Walker shows he belongs right up there, though, in beating Conigliaro and Romero before dropping in the semi-finals and beating Foca in the consi-semis.  I think Smith balls out here.  He is hungry for that Lewis win and he got Labs last time out too.

- 184 -

Semi-Finals: Keckeisen over Munoz, Hidlay over Bolen

Finals: Hidlay over Keckeisen via Decision

3rd place: Romero

Thoughts:  I think Bolen gets Romero this time, but Finesilver beats him on the backside - then proceeds to lose to Romero for 3rd.

- 197 -

Semi-Finals: Sloan over Harvey, Trumble over Allred

Finals: Sloan over Trumble via Major

3rd place: Harvey

Thoughts:  I think this is the year we start seeing the Sloan we thought we would have a couple years ago and I think he wins this weight class convincingly.  Also... Yatooma?  Are you serious?  There is no way this guy is the best guy they have for 197 to put out there... when Bullock is still on the roster... what the actual deuce?

- 285 -

Semi-Finals: Davison over Schultz, Parris over Hendrickson

Finals: Parris over Davison via Pin

3rd place: Hendrickson

Thoughts:  I think Davison pulls off the dub against Schultz.  Just got me a feeling.  Of all the weights, this is the one where the 1-2 seems to be the most likely weight to happen... so it won't.  I don't see anyone on the bottom side capable of beating Parris.  We have seen Davison beat the elite of 285 before, albeit in freestyle (Cassioppi).  I think Schultz then forfeits out.

[SoonerKing]

Demas not make weight?  Why is he not in bracket?  Any news?

[RandolphTJones]

No 157 for Ohio State. Paddy has been banged up for quite awhile, so they had plenty of time to prep Wilcox or Gavin Brown to fill in. This will hinder their chances of taking a team title. 

[PortaJohn]

15 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

Olguin and Formato are real threats to knock Ramirez off, and I think they will.

Why? Formato over Ramirez in the quarters?  State your case

[PortaJohn]

On 11/30/2022 at 11:14 PM, Framer614 said:

Any way to watch the Cliff Keen ?

here's the link to watch live:

https://www.flowrestling.org/live/47483

Edited December 2, 2022 by PortaJohn

[Ban Basketball]

10 hours ago, bnwtwg said:

Listen here @Ban Basketball aka NJDan. I don’t need or want you throwing me likes. You’re only here because you make me the second dumbest member of this forum. While I appreciate that you are the Boone’s Farm to my Franzia for self-preservation purposes, that doesn’t mean we are going to do business together.

NJ Dan, eh, boy? Trying going back over two decades and you may have it. 

Everything ok at home? WOWZA!!

[Ban Basketball]

2 hours ago, nhs67 said:

It's Vegas.  That is why they keep it there you Turdbiscuit.  If you can't ubderstand that, as an American, then you need to just quit... everything.  Quit everything - everywhere.

Why,  yes,  because once someone explained it to me,  I've continued to argue with people,  haven't I?

Save us the phoney outrage,  boy 

[nhs67]

28 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

Why? Formato over Ramirez in the quarters?  State your case

Formato and Ramirez have both been kind of letting it fly this year, win or lose and there has to be one crazy upset prior to the Semi-Finals, correct?  I just picked this one to be it.  They have felt each other before (last year NCAAs), and I think Ramirez is hungry, very hungry.  That'll have him coming out confident and Formato will catch him early - not via pin, just a bunch of early nearfall.  I think it is much more likely Ramirez decks him early, but as  I said... need some KAOZ right?