Senior Nationals (US Olympic Trials Qualifier) - Dec. 15-17

[SocraTease]

Who's going?  Who's not? 

Committed wrestlers?  Rumors?

Van Ness and Kerk from Penn State both said they will be there.  

Spencer Lee and Nolf recently both qualified for Trials so I highly doubt they will go.

Early Registration deadline is Dec. 1.  Online registration deadline is Dec. 10.

No weight allowance.

The top five finishers per weight category at the 2023 Senior Nationals will earn a spot in the U.S. Olympic Team Trials. (Note: An athlete must place in top five. If one of the top five is already qualified, no additional athletes beyond the top five are added).

https://usawrestlingevents.com/event/2400000502/schedule

Edited November 26, 2023 by SocraTease

[SocraTease]

Wrestlers qualified already for Olympic Trials:

https://www.themat.com/news/2023/november/20/2024-u-s-olympic-team-trials-qualifiers-as-of-november-20

[SocraTease]

Starrocci seemed to indicate he is not going.  I'm sure the huge weight cut in the season plays a big role in that decision, and that makes sense.  He indicated he plans to win NCAAs, which would qualify him, and after he eviscerated Mekkhi Lewis, few would doubt his confidence.

I haven't seen a list of registrants anywhere and the event is less than 3 weeks away.

Edited November 26, 2023 by SocraTease

[bnwtwg]

9 hours ago, SocraTease said:

Spencer Lee and Nolf recently both qualified for Trials so I highly doubt they will go.

No persons who have qualified for Olympic Trials are allowed to enter this tournament.

[SocraTease]

7 minutes ago, bnwtwg said:

No persons who have qualified for Olympic Trials are allowed to enter this tournament.

Where have you seen this written? I don't think it is correct. Below is a quote from the USA wrestling website.  It clearly implies that those who have qualified for the trials can in fact compete:

"The top five finishers per weight category at the 2023 Senior Nationals will earn a spot in the U.S. Olympic Team Trials. (Note: An athlete must place in top five. If one of the top five is already qualified, no additional athletes beyond the top five are added)."

[bnwtwg]

So you didn’t read that other important part about those already qualified? Or you just wanted to be a knucklehead?

[nhs67]

7 hours ago, bnwtwg said:

So you didn’t read that other important part about those already qualified? Or you just wanted to be a knucklehead?

I think guys can steal spots here.

I think it is Last Chance where they cannot enter if they are already qualified.

[nhs67]

Anyone else super pissed and annoyed that you cannot see the registration list now?

They changed their website formatting the day before the Bill Farrell and it is for every event now - which is stupid.

[nhs67]

Right now, quantity is all we can say of the registration(s):

MGR:
60 KG - 3
67 KG - 2
77 KG - 5
87 KG - 2
97 KG - 4
130 KG - 4
Total - 20

MFS:
57 KG - 5
65 KG - 4
74 KG - 6
86 KG - 5
97 KG - 3
125 KG - 1
Total - 24

WFS:
50 KG - 2
53 KG - 5
57 KG - 5
62 KG - 4
68 KG - 1
76 KG - 2
Total - 19

[bnwtwg]

1 hour ago, nhs67 said:

I think guys can steal spots here.

I think it is Last Chance where they cannot enter if they are already qualified.

After my Keuter prediction I am henceforth doubling down on all bad takes. No way I could ever be wrong.

[nhs67]

3 minutes ago, bnwtwg said:

After my Keuter prediction I am henceforth doubling down on all bad takes. No way I could ever be wrong.

I think you need to eat your hat on this one...

The only mention of 'previously qualified' is for the Last Chance - see Bold, Underlined area below.

a) Past USA World Championships or Olympic Games Participant or Final World or
Olympic Team Trials Champion
Any past Senior Freestyle World Championships participant and/or Final World
or Olympic Team Trials Champion from 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022 or 2023 is
automatically qualified to enter the 2024 U.S. Olympic Trials – Wrestling.

b) 2023 U17 World Championships (August, 2023)
Any 2023 U17 Freestyle World Championships gold medalist is automatically
qualified to enter the 2024 U.S. Olympic Trials – Wrestling

c) 2023 U20 World Championships (August, 2023)
Any 2023 U20 Freestyle World Championships gold medalist is automatically
qualified to enter the 2024 U.S. Olympic Trials – Wrestling

d) 2023 Senior World Championships (September, 2023)
i. Any 2023 Senior World Championship Freestyle Medalist, at an Olympic weight,
will earn an automatic berth into the final wrestle-off (i.e., Day Two) at the same
weight they won a medal in the 2024 U.S. Olympic Trials – Wrestling.
ii. Any 2023 Senior World Championship Freestyle Medalist, at a non-Olympic
weight, will earn an automatic berth into the semifinals (i.e., Day One) at a
weight category immediately adjacent (one weight class up or down) from their
2023 Senior World Championship weight category.

e) 2023 U23 World Championships (October, 2023)
Any 2023 U23 Freestyle USA World Championships gold medalist is automatically
qualified to enter the 2024 U.S. Olympic Trials – Wrestling.

f) 2023 Bill Farrell International Open (November, 2023)
The highest placed Senior Freestyle USA athlete per weight category, that places in
the top 4, who has yet to qualify, will earn a spot in the 2024 U.S. Olympic Trials -
Wrestling.

g) 2023 U.S. Olympic Trials Qualifier (December, 2023)
The Senior Freestyle top 5 finishers per weight category at the 2023 USA Wrestling
Olympic Trials Qualifier will earn a spot in the 2024 U.S. Olympic Trials – Wrestling.

h) 2024 Pan American Championships (February, 2024)
Any Senior Freestyle Gold Medalist at the 2024 Pan American Championships will
earn a spot in the 2024 U.S. Olympic Trials – Wrestling.

i) 2024 Pan American Olympic Qualifier (March, 2024)
The Senior Freestyle USA athlete who qualifies the Olympic weight category at the
Pan American Olympic Qualifier will earn a spot in the 2024 U.S. Olympic Trials –
Wrestling.

j) NCAA Division I Championships (March, 2024)
The 2024 NCAA Division I champion will earn a spot in the 2024 U.S. Olympic Trials
– Wrestling at the weight category they choose.

k) Final 2024 U.S. Olympic Trials Qualifier (March, 2024)
The Freestyle champion of this event per weight category will qualify for the 2024
U.S. Olympic Trials – Wrestling. Athletes who have already qualified will NOT be
allowed to compete in this event.

[mspart]

22 hours ago, SocraTease said:

Wrestlers qualified already for Olympic Trials:

https://www.themat.com/news/2023/november/20/2024-u-s-olympic-team-trials-qualifiers-as-of-november-20

I would be guessing that J'Den Cox will be at the US Nationals as he is not on the above list.  

mspart

[bnwtwg]

51 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

I think you need to eat your hat on this one...

The only mention of 'previously qualified' is for the Last Chance - see Bold, Underlined area below.

That's it now I'm tripling down.

[bnwtwg]

12 minutes ago, mspart said:

I would be guessing that J'Den Cox will be at the US Nationals as he is not on the above list.  

mspart

Cox is already in - anyone who made a world or olympic team 2018-2023 is qualified. I do know this to be factually correct.

[nhs67]

43 minutes ago, mspart said:

I would be guessing that J'Den Cox will be at the US Nationals as he is not on the above list.  

mspart

He is too on the list.

 

[mspart]

Oops, missed that.   Looking at it again, they put that  note in between 86 and 97.   I was just looking at 97.   Thanks for the correction.  I guess we won't see him at US Nats.    

mspart

[SocraTease]

10 hours ago, bnwtwg said:

So you didn’t read that other important part about those already qualified? Or you just wanted to be a knucklehead?

I believe that YOU now have officially been proven to be a knucklehead because you are WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.  Do you have any thoughts on the moon landing, the insurrection on the Capitol, or 9/11 that you might like to share? 

[mspart]

Nyuk nyuk nyuk!!!

mspart

[bnwtwg]

36 minutes ago, SocraTease said:

I believe that YOU now have officially been proven to be a knucklehead because you are WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.  Do you have any thoughts on the moon landing, the insurrection on the Capitol, or 9/11 that you might like to share? 

Now I'm quadrupling down on how correct I am. This includes:

We landed on the moon. Jury is still out whether there are Decepticons hiding on the dark side of the moon and Pink Floyd didn't give any guidance in that department. And while Kubrick had some masterpieces, he also had some real stinkers. No way he would have filmed as well as what we got.

J6 they should all face criminal charges with actual consequences and that includes The Hamberdler but nothing will happen to him because that's the way the world really works. America was much closer to ripping apart that day than many seem to be able to acknowledge. Also, Hawley is a pussy. I really want to take his stupid fist and make him start hitting himself in the face with it until he cries uncle.

9/11 was awful. But like they say, dank memes melt steel beams. What do Pete Carroll and Aaron Rodgers know that they aren't telling the rest of us?

See, I'm not a knucklehead. I'm always right, even if I need to be updated on occasion.

[Wrestleknownothing]

4 hours ago, bnwtwg said:

After my Keuter prediction I am henceforth doubling down on all bad takes. No way I could ever be wrong.

Well done. No one likes a quitter.

[mspart]

3 hours ago, bnwtwg said:

9/11 was awful. But like they say, dank memes melt steel beams. What do Pete Carroll and Aaron Rodgers know that they aren't telling the rest of us?

 

This has me wondering.   What does Pete and Aaron know?

mspart

[bnwtwg]

On 11/27/2023 at 4:55 PM, mspart said:

This has me wondering.   What does Pete and Aaron know?

mspart

Hopefully they know if NLWC plans to sign up for Senior Nats because they ain't registered yet!

[Wrestleknownothing]

48 minutes ago, bnwtwg said:

Hopefully they know if NLWC plans to sign up for Senior Nats because they ain't registered yet!

They always sign up late. And Casey Cunningham said in his pre-season email that they kept the first semester schedule light so that anyone who wanted to enter Sr. Nationals could do so.

[bnwtwg]

3 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

They always sign up late. And Casey Cunningham said in his pre-season email that they kept the first semester schedule light so that anyone who wanted to enter Sr. Nationals could do so.

Ooooh someone just wants me to quintuple down on the gamesmanship coming out of Happy Valley. Well fine. I can keep going. At this rate I’ll exponential down on myself more times than Katie Ledecky has world medals.

[Wrestleknownothing]

17 minutes ago, bnwtwg said:

Ooooh someone just wants me to quintuple down on the gamesmanship coming out of Happy Valley. Well fine. I can keep going. At this rate I’ll exponential down on myself more times than Katie Ledecky has world medals.

That is a big ass down.