Climate Hoax

[red viking]

https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/faq/is-the-sun-causing-global-warming/

[ionel]

43 minutes ago, red viking said:

https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/faq/is-the-sun-causing-global-warming/

"per square meter since 1880." 

What about the other millions of years of data?  

[red viking]

12 minutes ago, ionel said:

"per square meter since 1880." 

Point is that man is responsible for 100% of warming right now and its warming MUCH faster than any natural factors could cause. 

Edited November 16 by red viking

[red viking]

15 minutes ago, ionel said:

"per square meter since 1880." 

What about the other millions of years of data?  

Go ahead and show it. 

[ionel]

3 minutes ago, red viking said:

Go ahead and show it. 

I "heard" there was a lot of "change."

[red viking]

1 hour ago, ionel said:

I "heard" there was a lot of "change."

Lol. Yes, but on geologic timescales. Nothing like current rates. Plus, the earth actually should be cooling if we relied upon the natural cycles. 

[ionel]

1 hour ago, red viking said:

Lol. Yes, but on geologic timescales. Nothing like current rates. Plus, the earth actually should be cooling if we relied upon the natural cycles. 

It is, temps dropping in my town tonight. 

[Lipdrag]

From this link posted above: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7575229/#:~:text=This period has started in,in the decade 2031–2043. 

"This global cooling during the upcoming grand solar minimum 1 (2020–2053) can offset for three decades any signs of global warming and would require inter-government efforts to tackle problems with heat and food supplies for the whole population of the Earth."

No, no, no.  A thousand times, NO!  Governments should apply absolutely zero efforts whatsoever toward heat and food.  Governments should use the temporary authority granted to them by the citizens to focus solely upon ensuring truths that are self-evident.  The only valid job of any government is to secure for us and our posterity our inalienable rights (life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, among others) granted by our creator - or by some weird randomness of electrons bumping into each other as arranged by our (don't say creator).   A court system to resolve conflicts so we don't have to individually exact revenge, roads/infrastructure, mutual defense - and almost nothing else should be provided - communially.  Food and heat are up to us.

Edited November 16 by Lipdrag

[jross]

5 hours ago, red viking said:

I laugh when I see these claims about temperature fluctuations over the past several thousand to millions of years. First of all, these natural fluctuations are WAY slower than what's currently happening. 

Scientists have said the global average temperature has been increasing at a rate of about 0.30°C per decade in recent times where as the temperature rose 10°C (18°F) in a decade.  Greenland - end of Younger Dryas, 11.5K years ago.

https://web.archive.org/web/20161222172141/https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/abrupt-climate-change/The Younger Dryas

[jross]

This is not helpful.

• 1989, AP: "Entire nations could be wiped off the face of the earth by rising sea levels ... by the year 2000."
• 2000, The Independent: Quoted a scientist saying that in just a few years, the UK could have a 'hothouse climate' by
• 2008, with 'monsoon conditions' and summer temperatures reaching 135°F.
• 2004, The Guardian: "Major European cities will be sunk beneath rising seas as Britain is plunged into a 'Siberian' climate by 2020."
• 2005, The Pentagon: A report suggested that by 2020, climate change effects could include massive droughts, leading to famine and sparking global conflicts over resources.
• 2006, Al Gore: "The North Pole will be ice-free in the summer by 2013 because of man-made global warming."
• 2007, Dr. James Hansen: Warned that unless drastic measures to reduce greenhouse gases were taken within the next 10 years (by 2017), the Earth would reach a point of no return, leading to severe climate impacts like the rapid melting of polar ice caps.
• 2008, Prince Charles: Stated there were only 96 months left to save the world from climate change, setting a deadline for action around 2016.

And John Kerry talking "we're looking at the largest economic opportunity...."

 

Bonus discussion that predicts (in 2022) what's going to happen in 2024 with the election because of liberals...  Nailed that one.

[Lipdrag]

At least the CEO who went full Evil Team Green is now gone and someone with sense is trying to rescue this corporation from its manmade disaster.

 

Now, GM needs to let DEI hire Mary Barra go visit her Hertz buddy for extended drives in their EVs.  The problem is that GM can't fire her - nor even find a way to ask her to resign with dignity - just like the dems were stuck with the Kam-ster after ousting Joey B in the coup.

 

Seen this week.  A normal pickup truck pulling a trailer with a non-functional Tesla Cybertruck (I know, redundant term) strapped on the bed.  I did not have time to snap the iconic and ironic picture of the future - according to one of our brethren on this board - being so perfectly displayed.

Edited November 17 by Lipdrag

[Lipdrag]

The self-owns continue from the Climateer COPter Hoaxers:

 

Then someone pulls up facts and, dare I say it, science. 

 

The chart shows > 15x reduction in climate deaths in a century.  But wait.  More science and bad math.  The world population is > 4x larger now than in 1920 so the chances of dying in a climate disaster is actually more than 60x lower than before our SUVs started trying to kill us. 

So, I guess technically we need to say The UNSECGEN is correct.  People do die in every country.  He could even add that people die in every country every day and still be technically correct.  But if he wants to make a qualitative statement about the trend and state of climate disasters he must say that we are living in the greatest times ever with respect to the climate and it not killing us.

[Offthemat]

Azerbaijan using the meeting to shop investment in their natural gas industry.

[jross]

we are dead again

 

[Lipdrag]

40 minutes ago, jross said:

we are dead again

I hate when that keeps happening.

[ionel]

39 minutes ago, Lipdrag said:

I hate when that keeps happening.

[Caveira]

On 11/16/2024 at 3:57 PM, red viking said:

Lol. Yes, but on geologic timescales. Nothing like current rates. Plus, the earth actually should be cooling if we relied upon the natural cycles. 

Refute this video from don lemon 

two points.  The fart in the wind…….  And the banks the investments I.e….. the fark all (spelled wrong on purpose).   Caution he said the f word several times.

its 5 mins but it’s a good 5 mins  

 

 

[RockLobster]

1 hour ago, Caveira said:

Refute this video from don lemon 

two points.  The fart in the wind…….  And the banks the investments I.e….. the fark all (spelled wrong on purpose).   Caution he said the f word several times.

its 5 mins but it’s a good 5 mins  

 

 

First of all, after watching the video - how could you possibly even consider trusting this this guy? He looks, sounds, and acts like a guy who just got out of prison after a 10 year stretch.

This guy is a moron.

What is wrong with you? What would make you think it is a good idea to post a crap video like this here?

Has this forum become a garbage can for you?

[Offthemat]

Our soon to be Sec. of Energy:

 

[Caveira]

16 hours ago, RockLobster said:

First of all, after watching the video - how could you possibly even consider trusting this this guy? He looks, sounds, and acts like a guy who just got out of prison after a 10 year stretch.

This guy is a moron.

What is wrong with you? What would make you think it is a good idea to post a crap video like this here?

Has this forum become a garbage can for you?

So you can’t refute either point?

why are the banks financing anything in those regions…. If they will be gone in xyz # of years? 
 

Sure you don’t have to like the guy.  He is sort of an a hole…. But where is he wrong?

Edited November 18 by Caveira

[ionel]

16 hours ago, RockLobster said:

This guy is a moron.

Whats wrong with morons ... don't you believe in diversity?

[Offthemat]

34 minutes ago, ionel said:

Whats wrong with morons ... don't you believe in diversity?

Maybe he does - unwittingly.

[Lipdrag]

2 hours ago, Offthemat said:

Our soon to be Sec. of Energy:

 

Now THAT is an energy secretary!!  He knows the value of what his company / industry produce and is proud of it.

So, don't send North Face any raw materials from the industry it so loves to demonize.  Zip, Zero.  Zilch.  Nada.  The industry should work only with customers that appreciate it.

[red viking]

On 11/16/2024 at 6:31 PM, jross said:

Scientists have said the global average temperature has been increasing at a rate of about 0.30°C per decade in recent times where as the temperature rose 10°C (18°F) in a decade.  Greenland - end of Younger Dryas, 11.5K years ago.

https://web.archive.org/web/20161222172141/https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/abrupt-climate-change/The Younger 

Horrible example. This was more a,transfer of heat from one part of the globe to another and caused by a specific event. You really knocked that strawman out of the park. 

[mspart]

Unconvincing.

mspart