Climate Hoax

[Husker_Du]

the problem is not the intent, but the current reality.

wouldn't it be just lovely to have clean, renewable energy. but the technology just isn't there yet. there's almost nothing 'renewable' about it considering they are predicated on fossil fuels. 

saying an electric car is clean and renewable when the energy comes from a fossil fuel plant is just a shell game. but enough whackos (including politicians) don't get it.

only a bunch of morons would push a national mandate long before it's even feasible. but alas, the 'party' of science that gulped down VAX and thinks girls are boys are in charge. 

[ionel]

26 minutes ago, Husker_Du said:

the problem is not the intent, but the current reality.

wouldn't it be just lovely to have clean, renewable energy. but the technology just isn't there yet. there's almost nothing 'renewable' about it considering they are predicated on fossil fuels. 

saying an electric car is clean and renewable when the energy comes from a fossil fuel plant is just a shell game. but enough whackos (including politicians) don't get it.

only a bunch of morons would push a national mandate long before it's even feasible. but alas, the 'party' of science that gulped down VAX and thinks girls are boys are in charge. 

and throw on top of that AI and crypto ...

[Danny Deck]

On 12/11/2024 at 7:21 AM, Lipdrag said:

Bans, mandates, EPA, etc etc and they can't get the basics right.  We must have Mr. Fusions mandated by Congress and enforced by administrative fiat NOW!!

 

In further Climateer news:  The EU politicians have come out against the EU politicians.  

 

On this first one, this is true for much smaller things than a car. Buy high quality adapters and cables for your phone too!

But one thing I've noticed is that usually when I see a bay of chargers at least one is out of order. Not having anyone on site to fix problems like gas stations have seems like a real issue. Don't want to just barely get to a charging station and find out it's broke and there is no one you can get in touch with to fix it.

[ionel]

https://apnews.com/article/california-auto-emissions-epa-climate-change-1ce052a131554452f651780baa783ffb

Why not do something that would make an immediate impact:

Ban all diesel equipment engaged in construction of solar, wind etc farms and any other infrastructure.  All construction must use battery/EV equipment as of 01/01/25

Ban all transportation of food & produce into or within the state via diesel powered semis, ships, locomotives etc.  All such transportation shall be via EV/battery systems as of 01/01/25. 

This will quickly solve the climate issue in CA as millions will flee the state or simply stop breathing.  

 

[mspart]

2 hours ago, Danny Deck said:

On this first one, this is true for much smaller things than a car. Buy high quality adapters and cables for your phone too!

But one thing I've noticed is that usually when I see a bay of chargers at least one is out of order. Not having anyone on site to fix problems like gas stations have seems like a real issue. Don't want to just barely get to a charging station and find out it's broke and there is no one you can get in touch with to fix it.

It's all supported by AI so it knows there is a problem.   Believe it, AI Knows.   But AI was programmed as a State DMV bureaucrat so it won't do anything about it, but it knows, believe that!!

mspart

[Danny Deck]

I'll say there is one more common thing than a busted charger. The Aldi by my house has some chargers and inevitably the ICE vehicle in the worst condition in the lot is parked in one of the spaces for the charger. 

[Lipdrag]

On 12/18/2024 at 2:42 PM, Danny Deck said:

I'll say there is one more common thing than a busted charger. The Aldi by my house has some chargers and inevitably the ICE vehicle in the worst condition in the lot is parked in one of the spaces for the charger. 

A parking lot is for parking while using the services of the establishment.  Fuel cars elsewhere.  Like normal people/cars do.

I do consider the opposing argument that these spots are simply for the mentally handicapped to mirror the spots for the physically handicapped.

[Lipdrag]

 

Again we find the politicians of the EU coming out against the politicians of the EU.  But the Euros still have no balls.  Waiving fines does not argue against the fact that there should be none.  It merely is asking for an indulgence from the pope rather than stating that the whole idea is corrupt and could only be propagated by a bunch of cotton headed ninny-muggins

[Danny Deck]

On 12/19/2024 at 2:29 PM, Lipdrag said:

A parking lot is for parking while using the services of the establishment.  Fuel cars elsewhere.  Like normal people/cars do.

I do consider the opposing argument that these spots are simply for the mentally handicapped to mirror the spots for the physically handicapped.

Lighten up Francis.

[ionel]

On 12/19/2024 at 1:29 PM, Lipdrag said:

A parking lot is for parking while using the services of the establishment.  Fuel cars elsewhere.  Like normal people/cars do.

I can see it being allowed if its a grass parking lot but not if its paved via diesel & coal.  

[Lipdrag]

19 hours ago, Danny Deck said:

Lighten up Francis.

Call me Psycho.

Nice Stripes movie speak drop.  I actually have Sawyer cousins from Rhode Island.  Absolute psychos.

[WrestlingRasta]

Just keep your meat hooks off…

[Lipdrag]

Mark Mills, the Executive Director of the National Center on Energy Analytics (NCEA). “To pull this off, you would need something like $4 trillion worth of hardware, and that’s not counting additional power plants you’d need and the national grid to handle the expected growth in power demand. You’ve also got land issues – where are you going to put all this?”

In other words, the national infrastructure plan rests on an “if we build it, they will come” dream, according to auto market experts and economists. Even the people at Climate Crisis acknowledged in November that “the dream of the $25,000 EV is dead.”

 

Physics does not abide by mandates very well.  Stoopid physics.

[Lipdrag]

Hoaxsters gonna hoax:

"Biden officials have insisted there is “no turning back” on EPA-funded programs such as the $27 billion it dished out to nonprofits via the new Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund . . . has reported that much of this money has been awarded to outfits with strong ties to the Democratic party.

“The situation at the EPA is troubling – it’s not an agency that is supposed to be in the spending, or giving out money business at all,” Bakst said. “It’s not like this is a small amount of money that the EPA is doling out, and much of the money is going to the creation of what amount to slush funds for nonprofits.”

[Husker_Du]

 

[Lipdrag]

"Much of this money can be saved simply by not being spent", Fisher said.

“The Department of Energy's Loan Programs Office is sitting on big piles of money,”

“The government is throwing massive sums around, but the devil is in the details,” he said . . . "believed the purpose of these programs was more about rewarding friends than solar panels or high-speed internet or EV charging.”

More Hoaxing with our tax dollars.  Climateers, you can believe what you want to believe, make up fake science, drive what you want to drive, and do whatever you want WITH YOUR OWN SELF AND OWN MONEY.  However, to use the power of the government to declare, force, mandate, regulate, spend MY GRANDCHILDREN'S MONEY, etc. is the hoax.  The EPA, DOE(nergy), DOT, DOI(nterior), etc should not be used to bludgeon Americans and be crony reward systems.

 

[billyhoyle]

11 hours ago, Husker_Du said:

 

Nothing he said refutes the greenhouse effect or makes it ludicrous.  He's correct that both respiration and combustion produce CO2. There are processes (like photosynthesis) that capture CO2.  If more CO2 is produced and introduced into the atmosphere than captured, the temperature of the earth will go up. Some people call that pollution, others call it global warming or climate change. Some people might call that progress.

Whatever you want to label the change in the atmosphere, it has consequences, and we will need to decide how to deal with them one way or another.  If you're are a great 149 lb wrestler but you gain 10 pounds in the offseason, either you are going to have to lose that weight or adapt to a new weight class. The scale doesn't lie though. 

[ionel]

7 minutes ago, billyhoyle said:

There are processes (like photosynthesis) that capture CO2.  If more CO2 is produced and introduced into the atmosphere than captured, the temperature of the earth will go up.

What if less is produced than what the plants need? 

[billyhoyle]

6 minutes ago, ionel said:

What if less is produced than what the plants need? 

Net capture of CO2, global temperatures go down. 

Edited December 30, 2024 by billyhoyle

[Husker_Du]

10 hours ago, Lipdrag said:

"Much of this money can be saved simply by not being spent", Fisher said.

“The Department of Energy's Loan Programs Office is sitting on big piles of money,”

“The government is throwing massive sums around, but the devil is in the details,” he said . . . "believed the purpose of these programs was more about rewarding friends than solar panels or high-speed internet or EV charging.”

More Hoaxing with our tax dollars.  Climateers, you can believe what you want to believe, make up fake science, drive what you want to drive, and do whatever you want WITH YOUR OWN SELF AND OWN MONEY.  However, to use the power of the government to declare, force, mandate, regulate, spend MY GRANDCHILDREN'S MONEY, etc. is the hoax.  The EPA, DOE(nergy), DOT, DOI(nterior), etc should not be used to bludgeon Americans and be crony reward systems.

 

wow

 

[Husker_Du]

3 hours ago, billyhoyle said:

Nothing he said refutes the greenhouse effect or makes it ludicrous.  He's correct that both respiration and combustion produce CO2. There are processes (like photosynthesis) that capture CO2.  If more CO2 is produced and introduced into the atmosphere than captured, the temperature of the earth will go up. Some people call that pollution, others call it global warming or climate change. Some people might call that progress.

Whatever you want to label the change in the atmosphere, it has consequences, and we will need to decide how to deal with them one way or another.  If you're are a great 149 lb wrestler but you gain 10 pounds in the offseason, either you are going to have to lose that weight or adapt to a new weight class. The scale doesn't lie though. 

that's fine, but stop saying it's fossil fuels, and better yet, stop chopping down forests to install fields of solar panels.

much of this 'renewable energy' madness is anti science. and almost all of it is a grift. 

[Lipdrag]

14 minutes ago, Husker_Du said:

stop saying it's fossil fuels

Right!  Where do these geniuses think Barney the T-Rex got the carbon?  Did he have a carbon generator hidden under his really short arms?  The carbon was already here!  Barney was simply recycling:  taking carbon lying - or floating - around and using it then putting it back.  Carbon fuel is organic for goodness sake.  

[Husker_Du]

correct. the origin of the term was designed intentionally to mislead. for those that don't know, look it up. 

[Tripnsweep]

I can tell you where I live, climate change is real. But the same political party has basically run our state for the last 50 years, let growth and unsustainable expansion of our urban area happen because who cares about the environment? We've actually done several things that are completely irresponsible that have basically led to us only having 2 real seasons. We don't really have much of a summer monsoon anymore, temperatures at night during the summer sometimes don't go below triple digits, and we refuse to address it, or why we have such bad dustorms when they do happen. It's a cluster. You can directly blame the pro growth at all costs and who cares about consequences Republican party and even some Democrats too. We've kicked the can down the road enough and just now we're starting to figure out that without any kind of planning, the metro area is going to be a very difficult place to live in 25-30 years. Even if we put the brakes on now I'm not sure we'd turn it around. I'm old enough to remember when it would occasionally snow here, and cause people who haven't seen it to freak out. Haven't seen anything close to snow in a decade unless I drive a few hours north. I've seen more snow in Dubai than here in the last 6 years. You can't lay the blame soley at the feet of fossil fuel, and other non renewables. It's a contributing factor, to what degree I don't know, but it doesn't help. Our irresponsible growth, lack of planning and zero foresight have led to this. And we aren't the only major metro area either. 

[Bigbrog]

So now climate change can happen to specific cities and states??