Climate Hoax

[ionel]

5 minutes ago, JimmyBT said:

He loves his governor and the high taxes so he can’t afford boots 

I'll need to check with @headshuck but I'm willing to give him a pair of our demo boots.  

[Offthemat]

20 minutes ago, ionel said:

I'll need to check with @headshuck but I'm willing to give him a pair of our demo boots.  

Will the instructions be on the heel?

[ionel]

1 minute ago, Offthemat said:

Will the instructions be on the heel?

Good question, will discuss in the next board meeting. 

[Lipdrag]

22 hours ago, Offthemat said:

Will the instructions be on the heel?

No, Headshuck won't let us write on him anymore.  We have to write them somewhere on the boot now.

[headshuck]

That’s so funny I forgot to laugh.

[Offthemat]

UK power station burns wood from rare forests

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/uk-power-station-burns-wood-from-rare-forests/ar-BB1j16HB

Emissions don’t count. 

Edited March 5 by Offthemat

[Lipdrag]

https://europeanconservative.com/articles/news/left-wing-arsonists-shut-down-german-tesla-factory/

Schadenfreude is washing over me right now.  Lefties who love EVs hate the factories that make EVs and here's the irony . . . wait for it . . . due to the electricity used to make the EVs!!!  Lefties who love mandates and subsidies and all the tools of goverment control hate the factory that is helping execute the mandates and received subsidies to do what they love.  Too bad these lefties did not glue themselves to the power substation before setting it on fire.  

[mspart]

The left eating their own. 

mspart

[Offthemat]

Did headshuck loan out his pair of prototype boots?

[mspart]

Those are some serious boots.   They'll give her a bad back if she wears them much.  

mspart

[ionel]

https://nypost.com/2024/03/05/business/evs-release-more-toxic-emissions-are-worse-for-the-environment-study/

[Husker_Du]

sincere question i'm not even trolling or being rhetorical - what happened to 'acid rain'? i was inundated with that term in school for a hot minute

 

 

[Le duke]

sincere question i'm not even trolling or being rhetorical - what happened to 'acid rain'? i was inundated with that term in school for a hot minute
 
 

Sulfur dioxide scrubbers on power plants and refineries. You can also get acid rain from volcanic eruptions.

Scrubbers plus less coal fired power = less sulfur dioxide.


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[headshuck]

Did headshuck loan out his pair of prototype boots?

Well, my loaner boots seems to have caused her to drop out of the race.

[Offthemat]

3 minutes ago, headshuck said:

Well, my loaner boots seems to have caused her to drop out of the race.

Them boots may be for walking, not running for president. 

[Offthemat]

[mspart]

That's pretty funny.   Great new tech being bailed out with old tech.   But that happens in other areas just as often. 

mspart

[Husker_Du]

[ionel]

8 hours ago, Husker_Du said:

... but ... but ...

[red viking]

Gotta laugh when people cherry pick studies. The vast majority of the evidence overwhelmingly indicates that humans are causing the CO2 increase and also the VERY rapid temperature increases. I've asked a few times to provide names of reputable climatologists (at NASA, NOAA, major universities) that support the assertion that humans are not causing it. Instead, people just continue to rely on cherry-picked conclusions like this one and information that doesn't even come from climatologists and most commonly people with no climatology background whatsoever. Laughable. 

[red viking]

https://www.newswise.com/factcheck/rising-temperatures-may-cause-a-rise-in-carbon-dioxide-but-this-does-not-refute-human-caused-climate-change

[red viking]

This argument is nonsense.  The scientific community is 100% sure that the increase in CO2 we see in the atmosphere is from the combustion of fossil fuels (with a contribution from land-use changes).

This conclusion is supported by several independent lines of evidence.  First, for the past half-century, each year’s increase in carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has been on average 44 % of what humans released into the atmosphere in that same year. Thus, when humans were emitting smaller amounts of carbon dioxide in the 1960s, atmospheric carbon dioxide was increasing at a slower rate than when humans were dumping large amounts of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, as we are today. If the source of carbon dioxide emissions were non-human, there is no reason that it would track human emissions so closely.

Second, the carbon dioxide can be chemically “fingerprinted” to show that it comes from fossil fuels. The method is based on isotopes of carbon. All carbon atoms have six protons, but carbon’s isotopes have different numbers of neutrons. The chemical properties of an atom are for the most part set by the number of protons and electrons, so isotopes tend to have similar chemical properties. The chemistry, though, is not identical. Because of this, fossil fuels have a particular isotopic signature (enhanced in carbon-12 and depleted of carbon-14). Scientists measuring the composition of the increasing CO2 in the atmosphere find that it matches the isotopic composition of fossil fuels.

Finally, a challenge for any alternative theory: we know humans are dumping 40 billion tons of CO2 into the atmosphere every year.  If this is NOT causing the increase, where is all of that CO2 going?  The alternative theories never provide an explanation.

As reported by New Scientist back in 2007…

The ice ages show that temperature can determine CO2 as well as CO2 driving temperature. Some sceptics – not scientists – have seized upon this idea and are claiming that the relation is one way, that temperature determines CO2 levels but CO2 levels do not affect temperature.

To repeat, the evidence that CO2 is a greenhouse gas depends mainly on physics, not on the correlation with past temperature, which tells us nothing about cause and effect. And while the rises in CO2 a few hundred years after the start of interglacials can only be explained by rising temperatures, the full extent of the temperature increases over the following 4000 years can only be explained by the rise in CO2 levels.

[mspart]

So what do we do about it?   Force China and India to change their ways?   We have reduced emissions more than any other country.   But it is not enough.   Look at how much China and India have increased their emissions.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2024/02/04/why-the-us-leads-the-world-in-reducing-carbon-emissions/?sh=3eacd1c3541c

Ain't nothing going to change until those top two guys do something.   We continue to reduce our emissions and that is good, but not at as big a pace as they are increasing.    And us in WA state are doing everything we can and it is not even a blip, just like Inslee's  Presidential campaign.   We are paying more for gas, heating oil, natural gas, food, other goods, and it just isn't doing much.  

mspart

[red viking]

I don't know what to do about it mspart. What we do about it is a 100% different subject than whether it is occurring or not. Let's at least just be honest about what's happening and then go from there. 

[ThreePointTakedown]

7 minutes ago, mspart said:

So what do we do about it?   Force China and India to change their ways?   We have reduced emissions more than any other country.   But it is not enough.   Look at how much China and India have increased their emissions.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2024/02/04/why-the-us-leads-the-world-in-reducing-carbon-emissions/?sh=3eacd1c3541c

Ain't nothing going to change until those top two guys do something.   We continue to reduce our emissions and that is good, but not at as big a pace as they are increasing.    And us in WA state are doing everything we can and it is not even a blip, just like Inslee's  Presidential campaign.   We are paying more for gas, heating oil, natural gas, food, other goods, and it just isn't doing much.  

mspart

Agree to all points. 

We have roughly 5% of the world's population these two countries close to 25%. We're all going to have to cooperate to address the issue. 

They need to address their 'issues' with the inconsistent application of human rights. 

We are going to have to understand that they hold a bigger stick in this game and we might need to take a step back to play the long game for the greater good. 

Compromise is the name of the game. We all lose a little now to win in the end or we all lose eventually. There's a snake flag that reminds me of this situation.