Wrestleknownothing Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) To paraphrase Terry (Tom?) Brands, Jim Jordan loves politicians, but he doesn't love legislating. I just read that in 16 years Jim Jordan has not gotten a single piece of legislation signed into law. The Center for Effective Lawmaking ranked him 431st out of 435 Congressmen in the last Congress. His bi-partisanship scores are in the same range. Only 3 members are below him. And this is the best speaker candidate my fellow Republicans could come up with? Edited October 17, 2023 by Wrestleknownothing Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
Plasmodium Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 10-20 people control this Congress. He represents them.
Offthemat Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 That’s the way a lot of legislators work. The speaker, I see more as a referee than an inventor.
WrestlingRasta Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 2:11 PM, Offthemat said: That’s the way a lot of legislators work. The speaker, I see more as a referee than an inventor. Expand Great example except….he’s never been speaker. He’s only been a committee ranking member 4-5 years.
Offthemat Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 3:14 PM, WrestlingRasta said: Great example except….he’s never been speaker. He’s only been a committee ranking member 4-5 years. Expand It’s kind of sketchy attributing authorship of legislation. Laws are written with a lot of legalese to make sure that they’re focused, and can contain loopholes for congressmen. Jordan is a lawyer, and has little legislation in his name. Pelosi, who is not a lawyer, has a lot of legislation. Mostly resolutions, but to me, that means her staff did the work.
Ban Basketball Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 1:55 PM, Wrestleknownothing said: To paraphrase Terry (Tom?) Brands Expand It was Terry. I remember seeing it. Owner of over two decades of the most dangerous words on the internet! In fact, during the short life of this forum, me's culture has been cancelled three times on this very site!
Wrestleknownothing Posted October 17, 2023 Author Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 10:04 PM, Offthemat said: It’s kind of sketchy attributing authorship of legislation. Laws are written with a lot of legalese to make sure that they’re focused, and can contain loopholes for congressmen. Jordan is a lawyer, and has little legislation in his name. Pelosi, who is not a lawyer, has a lot of legislation. Mostly resolutions, but to me, that means her staff did the work. Expand If by little you mean zero, you would be correct. To me that means neither he, nor his staff, did any work. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
Plasmodium Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 10:04 PM, Offthemat said: It’s kind of sketchy attributing authorship of legislation. Laws are written with a lot of legalese to make sure that they’re focused, and can contain loopholes for congressmen. Jordan is a lawyer, and has little legislation in his name. Pelosi, who is not a lawyer, has a lot of legislation. Mostly resolutions, but to me, that means her staff did the work. Expand Jordan is not a lawyer. He went to law school but he never practiced law or took a bar exam.
Offthemat Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 10:06 PM, Wrestleknownothing said: If by little you mean zero, you would be correct. To me that means neither he, nor his staff, did any work. Expand Sure, that’s possible, but not likely. There’s something to him that so many would be voting for him.
Plasmodium Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 10:14 PM, Offthemat said: Sure, that’s possible, but not likely. There’s something to him that so many would be voting for him. Expand MAGA
WrestlingRasta Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 10:04 PM, Offthemat said: It’s kind of sketchy attributing authorship of legislation. Laws are written with a lot of legalese to make sure that they’re focused, and can contain loopholes for congressmen. Jordan is a lawyer, and has little legislation in his name. Pelosi, who is not a lawyer, has a lot of legislation. Mostly resolutions, but to me, that means her staff did the work. Expand I mean, people can move the goal posts, wiggle waggle, and excuse the facts in any number of ways, and they will, people will for legislators on both sides of the aisle. The relevant facts here are that in 18 years as a legislator, much of the last few with increasing influence, he has never passed a piece of legistlation, is currently under and defying a congressional subpeona, and is somehow close to being named speaker of that house.
Offthemat Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 10:14 PM, Plasmodium said: Jordan is not a lawyer. He went to law school but he never practiced law or took a bar exam. Expand Okay, but he has the education.
Offthemat Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 10:17 PM, WrestlingRasta said: I mean, people can move the goal posts, wiggle waggle, and excuse the facts in any number of ways, and they will, people will for legislators on both sides of the aisle. The relevant facts here are that in 18 years as a legislator, much of the last few with increasing influence, he has never passed a piece of legistlation, is currently under and defying a congressional subpeona, and is somehow close to being named speaker of that house. Expand Well, I’m not too worried about it.
Ban Basketball Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 10:15 PM, Plasmodium said: MAGA Expand Dovetailing off of Soundgarden, Ultra Maga Not OK. Owner of over two decades of the most dangerous words on the internet! In fact, during the short life of this forum, me's culture has been cancelled three times on this very site!
mspart Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 If legislative record were the marker, Jim wouldn't be in the running. Apparently that is not a thing. Has Hakeem Jeffries passed lots of legislation he authored? Is he qualified by his legislation writing prowess? I don't know, but he was up for the vote today. mspart
Ban Basketball Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 10:35 PM, mspart said: If legislative record were the marker, Jim wouldn't be in the running. Apparently that is not a thing. Has Hakeem Jeffries passed lots of legislation he authored? Is he qualified by his legislation writing prowess? I don't know, but he was up for the vote today. mspart Expand He's at least not a conspirator to trying to throw our votes and and overthrow a duly elected President. To me, there'd be no dispute over that one. Owner of over two decades of the most dangerous words on the internet! In fact, during the short life of this forum, me's culture has been cancelled three times on this very site!
ionel Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 10:06 PM, Wrestleknownothing said: If by little you mean zero, you would be correct. To me that means neither he, nor his staff, did any work. Expand Jordan saved use from more new stupid laws, or at least didn't contribute to the mess. .
Offthemat Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 Jeffries has a law degree and a list of legislation. Some of it isn’t bad. But he would be catastrophic as speaker.
Ban Basketball Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 10:42 PM, Offthemat said: Jeffries has a law degree and a list of legislation. Some of it isn’t bad. But he would be catastrophic as speaker. Expand I agree! Why, when I look for a speaker I look for someone who denies democracy, tries to overthrow it, and ignores subpoenas! Freedom! Owner of over two decades of the most dangerous words on the internet! In fact, during the short life of this forum, me's culture has been cancelled three times on this very site!
Plasmodium Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 10:42 PM, Offthemat said: Jeffries has a law degree and a list of legislation. Some of it isn’t bad. But he would be catastrophic as speaker. Expand We'll find out in 2025!
Plasmodium Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 After looking at Jim Jordan's resume, AOC will surely get a pass from MAGA on her bartender resume. Wow, his is sparse AF and he is soon to be Speaker - third in line(?) to POTUS.
Ban Basketball Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) I like the word "catastrophic" as applied to someone who hasn't even hinted at "catastrophic" in his career. Funny how language is used to sound the dog whistle, eh, friends? Edited October 17, 2023 by Ban Basketball Owner of over two decades of the most dangerous words on the internet! In fact, during the short life of this forum, me's culture has been cancelled three times on this very site!
Ban Basketball Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 11:25 PM, Plasmodium said: After looking at Jim Jordan's resume, AOC will surely get a pass from MAGA on her bartender resume. Wow, his is sparse AF and he is soon to be Speaker - third in line(?) to POTUS. Expand Yeah, but he's an authoritarian. That's the measuring stick as we stand today. As Joe Scarborough, darling of the "tea party" and " not the brains of the outfit" said today, " yes, it CAN get worse. " Owner of over two decades of the most dangerous words on the internet! In fact, during the short life of this forum, me's culture has been cancelled three times on this very site!
WrestlingRasta Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 10:42 PM, Offthemat said: Jeffries has a law degree and a list of legislation. Some of it isn’t bad. But he would be catastrophic as speaker. Expand But at least we’d get some alphabet raps
Ban Basketball Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 11:43 PM, WrestlingRasta said: But at least we’d get some alphabet raps Expand Dog whistle sounded...NOW! Owner of over two decades of the most dangerous words on the internet! In fact, during the short life of this forum, me's culture has been cancelled three times on this very site!
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