Israel Attacked

[GreatWhiteNorth]

10 hours ago, mspart said:

I think Israel has been very clear that this is an operation to cleanse Gaza of Hamas, all of Hamas.   It is Hamas that will negotiate terms.   Unless they are eradicated.   That's the way I understand it.   You are correct, the PA is not involved.

To be quite clear, the Palestinians in Gaza have suffered because Hamas has taken all aid and given it to themselves first in the form of its munitions, its investments, and its tunnels.   There is precious little left for the Gazans after that. 

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/27/world/middleeast/palestine-gazans-hamas-food.html

As Gazans Scrounge for Food and Water, Hamas Sits on a Rich Trove of Supplies

Hamas has spent years stockpiling desperately needed fuel, food and medicine, as well as ammo and weapons, in the miles of tunnels it has carved out under Gaza.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/13/israel-gaza-hamas-war-west-bank/

Israel orders 1 million Gazans to evacuate;

...  “We need to separate them,” Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant told reporters. “Those that want to save their life, please go south.”

Hamas dismissed the warnings as “psychological war” and told citizens to stay.

mspart

Great post by mspart.

It isn't the Israeli's, and it isn't the Palestinians at fault. Hamas are the bad guys here.

It is big and complicated and there is a lot of history, but at the end of the day it is distilled into a simple equation.

Hamas = Evil.

(I'd prefer to see an adjusted campaign by Israel that resulted in less civilian casualties than we are currently seeing. But, at the same time, war is neither predictable nor manageable. Which is why we should all work hard to avoid it rather than invite it.) 

[Husker_Du]

14 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

 

Honest question: Is there anything Israel could do to lose your support?

my answer is 'no'.

just to be clear. 

[Ohio Elite]

https://youtu.be/TbaWQoHRiLU?si=JkNcqxLFbPy44a9r

[Ohio Elite]

Just now, Ohio Elite said:

https://youtu.be/TbaWQoHRiLU?si=JkNcqxLFbPy44a9r

Good conversation between Joe Rogan and Tim Kennedy about the situation.

[uncle bernard]

 

[GreatWhiteNorth]

10 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

I wasted a few minutes watching this. It is a ridiculously awful video. So slow and dumb.

If anyone comes away changed after watching this, it's that uncle bernard is an incompetent dimwit.

[WrestlingRasta]

On 10/30/2023 at 8:44 AM, Offthemat said:

There’s a war going on.  Skip it if you can. 

 

On 10/30/2023 at 8:46 AM, uncle bernard said:

yeah @WrestlingRasta 

there are dead children and war crimes to justify. @Offthemat can’t just take a week off. 

 

Ya'll are correct.  I should have stuck around and contributed to the fine progress ya'll have made in resolving this mess.  Peace shall reign supreme, and I passed on the opportunity to be a part of it.

[uncle bernard]

 

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[Offthemat]

14 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

 

“Injured civilians?”  Are you sure it wasn’t women and children?  Liars.  Hamas uses ambulances for transportation like they use civilians for shields.  And now they know they’re not even safe in an ambulance.  In the picture, notice it’s only military aged men, all wearing the Hamas uniform. 

[Paul158]

38 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

 

If you look close, you will see that ambulance hit and ran over a horse. that is what caused the damage to the Ambulance. Not a bomb or missile.

[Paul158]

11 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

“Injured civilians?”  Are you sure it wasn’t women and children?  Liars.  Hamas uses ambulances for transportation like they use civilians for shields.  And now they know they’re not even safe in an ambulance.  In the picture, notice it’s only military aged men, all wearing the Hamas uniform. 

If you look close you can see a horse under the Ambulance. The van hit the horse causing the damage to the Ambulance. I think if it was an airstrike the Ambulance would have been destroyed.

[Offthemat]

3 minutes ago, Paul158 said:

If you look close, you will see that ambulance hit and ran over a horse. that is what caused the damage to the Ambulance. Not a bomb or missile.

You mean we can’t trust Quds News Network or Uncle Ben Raden?

I didn’t see a rear axle and thought maybe that’s where the damage was, but now I see the horse and blood on the side of the van. 

[Husker_Du]

shit's about to get real. super excited to see @uncle bernard 's idiotic twist on this.

 

 

[ionel]

1 hour ago, uncle bernard said:

 

So Israel is now stealing ambulances to target horses?

[Offthemat]

26 minutes ago, ionel said:

So Israel is now stealing ambulances to target horses?

Drumming up business.  Now they need an ambulance for the horse. 

[Husker_Du]

Nard Dog sticking up for the real victims, Hamas and Hezzbollah. 

what a time to be alive. 

i should ban him just for being a piece of shit. 

[uncle bernard]

3 hours ago, Husker_Du said:

shit's about to get real. super excited to see @uncle bernard 's idiotic twist on this.

 

 

this would be a very bad thing

[Husker_Du]

hot take from Nard Dog

[uncle bernard]

8 minutes ago, Husker_Du said:

Nard Dog sticking up for the real victims, Hamas and Hezzbollah. 

what a time to be alive. 

i should ban him just for being a piece of shit. 

your mind is so rotted that you cant conceive of having empathy for a captive civilian population living under one tyrannical government while being bombed by another. 

[WrestlingRasta]

11 minutes ago, Husker_Du said:

i should ban him just for being a piece of shit. 

Just so long as every piece of shit on this board gets banned. 

[uncle bernard]

3 hours ago, Paul158 said:

If you look close you can see a horse under the Ambulance. The van hit the horse causing the damage to the Ambulance. I think if it was an airstrike the Ambulance would have been destroyed.

 

3 hours ago, Offthemat said:

You mean we can’t trust Quds News Network or Uncle Ben Raden?

I didn’t see a rear axle and thought maybe that’s where the damage was, but now I see the horse and blood on the side of the van. 

The IDF claimed the strike on the ambulance. That picture is probably of a different incident but the IDF did target an ambulance and confirmed it. 

[uncle bernard]

3 hours ago, Paul158 said:

If you look close you can see a horse under the Ambulance. The van hit the horse causing the damage to the Ambulance. I think if it was an airstrike the Ambulance would have been destroyed.

 

3 hours ago, Offthemat said:

You mean we can’t trust Quds News Network or Uncle Ben Raden?

I didn’t see a rear axle and thought maybe that’s where the damage was, but now I see the horse and blood on the side of the van. 

 

 

 

[ionel]

15 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

 

 

 

 

That ambulance looks in pretty good shape for being targeted by an air strike.  

Maybe it just ran over another horse?

Edited November 3, 2023 by ionel

[uncle bernard]

4 minutes ago, ionel said:

That ambulance looks in pretty good shape for being targeted by an air strike.  

Maybe it just ran over another horse?

You think the IDF is lying?