The degeneration of society: gun violence

[jross]

In the historic land of red, white, and blue, guns were as common as apple pie, yet harmony prevailed.  What changed?

[Husker_Du]

mental health.

proliferation of victimhood.

all the guns the left want to ban have been around for 70 years. 

[Plasmodium]

Murder rates are slightly up from 70 years ago but down from 50 years ago.   It is not necessarily the numbers or the occurrence.  It is the terrorism and the innocents.  I agree with Husker that mental health plays a big role.

 

[jross]

What caused the change in mental health, and still is?

[GreatWhiteNorth]

3 hours ago, jross said:

In the historic land of red, white, and blue, guns were as common as apple pie, yet harmony prevailed.  What changed?

... except that harmony didn't really ever "prevail" in our society when guns were common. It's a nice thought, but it's as mythical as a yeti.

It's more of a tale of the guns prevailing than anything else.

• When one group had the guns, they made the law.
• When the guns became readily available to the lawless, gun violence ensued.

Little has changed since then.

 

 

 

[Plasmodium]

4 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said:

... except that harmony didn't really ever "prevail" in our society when guns were common. It's a nice thought, but it's as mythical as a yeti.

It's more of a tale of the guns prevailing than anything else.

• When one group had the guns, they made the law.
• When the guns became readily available to the lawless, gun violence ensued.

Little has changed since then.

 

 

 

Mass public slaughter of random people has increased dramatically this century.

 

[Plasmodium]

5 hours ago, jross said:

What caused the change in mental health, and still is?

Most obvious changes are the internet and population.

Edited May 15, 2023 by Plasmodium

[LJB]

6 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said:

... except that harmony didn't really ever "prevail" in our society when guns were common. It's a nice thought, but it's as mythical as a yeti.

It's more of a tale of the guns prevailing than anything else.

• When one group had the guns, they made the law.
• When the guns became readily available to the lawless, gun violence ensued.

Little has changed since then.

adorable...

first school shooting happened in the 1850's...

first school shooting where children were shot was in the 1890's...

we used to raid and slaughter entire villages and be celebrated for it...

if someone stepped out of line, we used to be able to handle it all on our own and in most cases be celebrated for it...

the world used to be a much more violent place on a daily basis and little things like a few people people getting killed was not big enough news to even reach the next grass hut...

the absolute main thing that has changed is an over abundance of self-importance...

 

 

[Offthemat]

7 hours ago, jross said:

What caused the change in mental health, and still is?

Ritalin?

[LJB]

you guys do realize our church used to kill more people on the reg in much more horrible ways than these few measly shootings, right?

and people would come from miles around to watch our church do it...

[jross]

The entertainment and media industry has glamorized and normalized gun violence.

The increase in "me" over family.

[LJB]

1 minute ago, jross said:

The entertainment and media industry has glamorized and normalized gun violence.

The increase in "me" over family.

we used to write poems about violence and the gains from it...

the only difference now is how soft and safe people think they are...

used to be, you wanted to find violence it was right outside of your hut and you could get whatever you want...

there was no confusion and certainly no quarter...

soft like women men are now...

[Plasmodium]

No doubt, but I don't think we have a decent explanation yet.  Why is one particular society disproportionately effected by gun violence?  

Edited May 15, 2023 by Plasmodium

[Bigbrog]

No. 1A = Parenting and the lack of teaching accountability and discipline

No. 1B = Mental Health - this is related to No. 1A in that parents need to teach their kids how to deal with conflict and work through tough things in life...and NOT to just shove pills down kids throats.  And then make it okay to talk about things

[LJB]

44K gun deaths in america in 2022...

that was an afternoon just a few years ago...

the soft weak men in this country need to get some perspective...

[Le duke]

8 minutes ago, LJB said:

we used to write poems about violence and the gains from it...

the only difference now is how soft and safe people think they are...

used to be, you wanted to find violence it was right outside of your hut and you could get whatever you want...

there was no confusion and certainly no quarter...

soft like women men are now...

 

Tell me, LJB, how many people have you killed?

You seem quite comfortable with the topic.

 

[LJB]

Just now, Le duke said:

 

Tell me, LJB, how many people have you killed?

You seem quite comfortable with the topic.

 

not one...

but...

i know our planets history clearly better than most...

[Le duke]

1 minute ago, LJB said:

not one...

but...

i know our planets history clearly better than most...

 

It's kind of weird that you are so cavalier about discussing a topic that you, by your own admission, clearly know very little about. 

 

 

[LJB]

Just now, Le duke said:

 

It's kind of weird that you are so cavalier about discussing a topic that you, by your own admission, clearly know very little about. 

 

 

i did not say i know little about it, i just answered your silly little question...

keep playing your silly little game...

you are adorable!!!

[Le duke]

16 minutes ago, LJB said:

44K gun deaths in america in 2022...

that was an afternoon just a few years ago...

the soft weak men in this country need to get some perspective...

Yet you call others soft and weak.

I'm pretty sure you're the soft one, bud.

[LJB]

2 minutes ago, Le duke said:

Yet you call others soft and weak.

I'm pretty sure you're the soft one, bud.

[Le duke]

17 minutes ago, LJB said:

 

You strike me as a "I would have signed up, but I'd knock a Drill Sergeant out if he yelled at me" type.

[LJB]

Just now, Le duke said:

 

You strike me as a "I would have signed up, but I'd knock a Drill Sergeant out if he yelled at me" type.

adorable...

you keep making all your little assumptions about me and i will keep giggling at you...

just like always...

[Mike Parrish]

45 minutes ago, jross said:

The entertainment and media industry has glamorized and normalized gun violence.

The increase in "me" over family.

Social media allows like minded people to find each other much more easily.
Reinforcement of bad ideas is an inevitable outcome of such a system.

[LJB]

Just now, Mike Parrish said:

Social media allows like minded people to find each other much more easily.
Reinforcement of bad ideas is an inevitable outcome of such a system.

100%...

that is not limited to one ideology...