Wrestleknownothing Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 For wrestlers who started their career after 2013 (the WrestleStat Era) there have been 8 2-timers. In chronological order of when their career ended: Gabe Dean Isaiah Martinez Dean Heil Zahid Valencia Vincenzo Joseph Nick Lee Austin O'Connor Nick Suriano Rank them. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted May 4, 2023 Author Share Posted May 4, 2023 My rank: 1. Valencia 2. Dean 3. Martinez, Joseph, Lee 6. Suriano 7. O'Connor 9. Heil Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: For wrestlers who started their career after 2013 (the WrestleStat Era) there have been 8 2-timers. In chronological order of when their career ended: Gabe Dean Isaiah Martinez Dean Heil Zahid Valencia Vincenzo Joseph Nick Lee Austin O'Connor Nick Suriano Rank them. No love for Jesse Delgado? He did pretty well til, injured Sr year. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Delgado 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted May 4, 2023 Author Share Posted May 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, ionel said: No love for Jesse Delgado? He did pretty well til, injured Sr year. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Delgado Not of the WrestleStat Era Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Not of the WrestleStat Era 2 years. Is it Jesse's fault WS came to the party late? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 1. Zahid Valencia 2. Isaiah Martinez 3. Nick Suriano 4. Gabe Dean 5. Vincenzo Joseph 6. Nick Lee 7. Austin O'Connor 8. Dean Heil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorwrestler Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 1. Gable StevesonSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted May 4, 2023 Author Share Posted May 4, 2023 39 minutes ago, poorwrestler said: 1. Gable Steveson Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Since he still has a year of eligibility left, I did not include him, even if it seems unlikely he will use it. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYou Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 I am trying to understand your limitations. 2x Nolf ? 2x Nickal ? Both missed being 3xers due to the COVID cancellation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 I am trying to understand your limitations. 2x Nolf ? 2x Nickal ? Both missed being 3xers due to the COVID cancellation.What in the world are you talking about?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted May 4, 2023 Author Share Posted May 4, 2023 45 minutes ago, RYou said: I am trying to understand your limitations. 2x Nolf ? 2x Nickal ? Both missed being 3xers due to the COVID cancellation. They are both 3x ers and graduated before Covid (2019). I believe only Vincenzo Joseph lost a shot at three due to Covid. I included both in the 3xer thread. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCMO2 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Gus said: 1. Zahid Valencia 2. Isaiah Martinez 3. Nick Suriano 4. Gabe Dean 5. Vincenzo Joseph 6. Nick Lee 7. Austin O'Connor 8. Dean Heil I'm torn on Heil. He was good his freshman year, and then looked almost unbeatable his soph and junior years (64-1), and then took a big step back his senior season (25-7 and no AA). So as a 2xer, for his championship years I agree with the thread, but his total body of work makes it a questionable call. (was he just pulling too much weight senior season, or HEW?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerfan Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Is Imar the only one ever who won his first 2 and then not even one more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerfan Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 2xers are so hard to rank because nobody agrees whether peak years, when they occurred, other finishes, or what are important. Kinda like deciding if it was 2 swipes or 3. See what I did there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 31 minutes ago, Tigerfan said: Is Imar the only one ever who won his first 2 and then not even one more? Gable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerfan Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Got me. I was obviously think about 2/4, but you found a loophole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 3 hours ago, KCMO2 said: I'm torn on Heil. He was good his freshman year, and then looked almost unbeatable his soph and junior years (64-1), and then took a big step back his senior season (25-7 and no AA). So as a 2xer, for his championship years I agree with the thread, but his total body of work makes it a questionable call. (was he just pulling too much weight senior season, or HEW?) He looked the same his Senior year. The rules changed. Had he had to wrestle by the same rules as his Senior season during his two title years he would have been a 0xer. They added danger rule and it absolutely fukced him over. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11986 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 55 minutes ago, Tigerfan said: Is Imar the only one ever who won his first 2 and then not even one more? Back in the 70s Pat Milkovich won twice in a row then was runner-up twice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 25 minutes ago, ionel said: Gable To be fair be was a 67% 2xer and not a 50% or 40% 2xer. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, nhs67 said: To be fair be was a 67% 2xer and not a 50% or 40% 2xer. Hey ... I just answered the question (showing IMar wasn't the only one, I could come up with more), I leave the heavy math lifting to Wkn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 15 minutes ago, ionel said: Hey ... I just answered the question (showing IMar wasn't the only one, I could come up with more), I leave the heavy math lifting to Wkn. The guy must feel an irrevocable giant weight on his shoulders. I also leave the heavy maths liftings to Wkn. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted May 5, 2023 Author Share Posted May 5, 2023 1 hour ago, nhs67 said: To be fair be was a 67% 2xer and not a 50% or 40% 2xer. He still has a shot at being a 50% 2xer. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 11 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: He still has a shot at being a 50% 2xer. He won't be. If he competes next year he is a 3xer. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 1 minute ago, nhs67 said: He won't be. If he competes next year he is a 3xer. Ever heard of Dan Gable or Spencer Lee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted May 5, 2023 Author Share Posted May 5, 2023 1 minute ago, nhs67 said: He won't be. If he competes next year he is a 3xer. I had similar thoughts about Spencer Lee, Zahid Valencia, and Vincenzo Joseph in their last year. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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