Former Penn State starter / current Penn coach spills about Cael

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

Great interview, offers insight to Cael's Penn State culture

 

[scourge165]

"Spills?" Doesn't that generally refer to gossip and something with negative connotations?

He said he changed the culture, they focused more on Wrestling and then talked about some things they did at practice...

 

[lightweight]

  On 5/7/2023 at 12:09 AM, scourge165 said:

"Spills?" Doesn't that generally refer to gossip and something with negative connotations?

He said he changed the culture, they focused more on Wrestling and then talked about some things they did at practice...

 

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As a boss I had once said, after I asked him about his presentation after a meeting with a prospective client where he described all sorts of stuff that our firm didn't actually offer - 

"Don't confuse marketing with implementation."

That's the JC schtick.  

 

[ionel]

Cleanup on the Jimmy aisle:

[AgaveMaria]

  On 5/7/2023 at 11:23 PM, ionel said:

Cleanup on the Jimmy aisle:

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How does his topic relate to Spencer Lee?

[ionel]

  On 5/8/2023 at 8:42 PM, AgaveMaria said:

How does his topic relate to Spencer Lee?

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IDK but Jimmy clearly spilled something so most likely related to Spencer.

[PortaJohn]

  On 5/8/2023 at 8:42 PM, AgaveMaria said:

How does his topic relate to Spencer Lee?

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  On 5/8/2023 at 8:46 PM, ionel said:

IDK but Jimmy clearly spilled something so most likely related to Spencer.

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Shocked Jimmy hasn't posted this video yet of Vito Arujua trashing Spencer Lee

 

[1032004]

one thing that was interesting from this is that he did say Cael either cut or kicked a bunch of guys off the team when he first got there

[Ivan Stankowski]

Were the Brands listening and taking notes, were Iowa boosters taking notes? were trade secrets revealed?

[Wrestleknownothing]

  On 5/12/2023 at 6:35 PM, Ivan Stankowski said:

Were the Brands listening and taking notes, were Iowa boosters taking notes? were trade secrets revealed?

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The three inch binder grew an inch that day.

[BobDole]

The "secret" isn't hard to figure out if you have half a brain.

Their technique is not exponentially better than the others.
Their conditioning is not exponentially better than the others.

The difference is how they approach the sport and the mindset they have developed from the top(coaches) down(athletes). Someone compared Cael talking about wrestling to Spencer Lee on Twitter. Cael was relaxed saying that wrestling is a game and he likes to play games. Spencer basically said winning and losing is like life or death. To the Penn State wrestlers winning or losing doesn't define them and that is the biggest difference. Why are they able to reverse so many losses from Big Tens? It's mainly because of the mindset and how they view the sport.

The thing is Tom and Terry could never implement this type of mindset, that's not how they are wired. Add in many other coaches that are of the Iowa style and old school mentality.

[Ivan Stankowski]

  On 5/12/2023 at 7:06 PM, BobDole said:

The "secret" isn't hard to figure out if you have half a brain.

Their technique is not exponentially better than the others.
Their conditioning is not exponentially better than the others.

The difference is how they approach the sport and the mindset they have developed from the top(coaches) down(athletes). Someone compared Cael talking about wrestling to Spencer Lee on Twitter. Cael was relaxed saying that wrestling is a game and he likes to play games. Spencer basically said winning and losing is like life or death. To the Penn State wrestlers winning or losing doesn't define them and that is the biggest difference. Why are they able to reverse so many losses from Big Tens? It's mainly because of the mindset and how they view the sport.

The thing is Tom and Terry could never implement this type of mindset, that's not how they are wired. Add in many other coaches that are of the Iowa style and old school mentality.

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Well I guess every NCAA DI wrestling coach only has 1/2 brain because the secret has yet to be figured out or stopped. I am not sure Carter Starocci fits into your narrative of the typical Penn State wrestler 

[ionel]

  On 5/12/2023 at 7:06 PM, BobDole said:

The "secret" isn't hard to figure out if you have half a brain.

Their technique is not exponentially better than the others.
Their conditioning is not exponentially better than the others.

The difference is how they approach the sport and the mindset they have developed from the top(coaches) down(athletes). Someone compared Cael talking about wrestling to Spencer Lee on Twitter. Cael was relaxed saying that wrestling is a game and he likes to play games. Spencer basically said winning and losing is like life or death. To the Penn State wrestlers winning or losing doesn't define them and that is the biggest difference. Why are they able to reverse so many losses from Big Tens? It's mainly because of the mindset and how they view the sport.

The thing is Tom and Terry could never implement this type of mindset, that's not how they are wired. Add in many other coaches that are of the Iowa style and old school mentality.

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Well sure ... but if you want a guy to run thru a brick wall do you want a guy who likes playing games or a guy who views it as life or death?  

If only the NCAA gave out brick wall trophies.  

[BobDole]

  On 5/12/2023 at 7:20 PM, Ivan Stankowski said:

Well I guess every NCAA DI wrestling coach only has 1/2 brain because the secret has yet to be figured out or stopped. I am not sure Carter Starocci fits into your narrative of the typical Penn State wrestler 

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Most, if not all, DI coaches know what goes on in the room, just are too hard headed to implement changes as they claim Penn State only does it due to the recruits they get. As I stated the Brands brothers could never implement that type of demeanor and mindset in their room. Listen to the top coaches and wrestlers talk, the Penn State guys talk about the sport in a different manner. Their mindset is the biggest difference when you compare them to others. 

 

[Wrestleknownothing]

  On 5/12/2023 at 7:20 PM, Ivan Stankowski said:

Well I guess every NCAA DI wrestling coach only has 1/2 brain because the secret has yet to be figured out or stopped. I am not sure Carter Starocci fits into your narrative of the typical Penn State wrestler 

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One of the other points Cael Sanderson has made recently is that he has had to adjust to the wrestlers and treat them differently because they are all different.

Another point I have heard him make on two occasions is sometimes the best thing to do is just get out of their way and let them succeed.

[Ivan Stankowski]

  On 5/12/2023 at 7:55 PM, Wrestleknownothing said:

One of the other points Cael Sanderson has made recently is that he has had to adjust to the wrestlers and treat them differently because they are all different.

Another point I have heard him make on two occasions is sometimes the best thing to do is just get out of their way and let them succeed.

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Let me see if I got this right, So your saying the boot camp military style doesn't work with most wrestlers anymore? Imagine that!!! 

[Wrestleknownothing]

  On 5/12/2023 at 7:58 PM, Ivan Stankowski said:

Let me see if I got this right, So your saying the boot camp military style doesn't work with most wrestlers anymore? Imagine that!!! 

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He is a dangerous radical and must be stopped.

[Threadkilla]

 

 

Tom and Terry just want to have fun.    This has always made me cringe.   

 

Edited May 12, 2023 by Threadkilla

[ionel]

  On 5/12/2023 at 8:41 PM, Threadkilla said:

 

 

Tom and Terry just want to have fun.    This has always made me cringe.   

 

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I'll defer to Vak.  If he says this meets the legal definition and will hold up in court then I'll say it looks like fun.