Chances of 10 pins in NCAA Finals by Medicinnabon

[MedicineMan]

I mean, everyone is capable of getting pinned or self-pinning for that matter.  I know it's entirely possible and I'd love to see it happen, just once, starting with Spencer Lee getting stuck by Liam Cronin, in the first period, in :06.

(I hope Jimmy doesn't get upset by me stealing his MO, but my pal, @ionel told me I could get my numbers up this way)

[ionel]

What are the chances there are already photos of all 10 pins?  RBY?

[PortaJohn]

@MedicineMan What are the odds that Spencer Lee bumps up to 133 for his Finals match against RBY and they pin each other? 

[Jerry Callo]

Seriously - I wonder how many falls there have been in any one NCAA finals over the years?  Probably 3 or less would be my guess for any 1 year

[MedicineMan]

4 hours ago, ionel said:

What are the chances there are already photos of all 10 pins?  RBY?

[ionel]

56 minutes ago, Jerry Callo said:

Seriously - I wonder how many falls there have been in any one NCAA finals over the years?  Probably 3 or less would be my guess for any 1 year

5 in 1933.

[MedicineMan]

[ionel]

Betting Yianni goes down hard.

[PortaJohn]

21 minutes ago, ionel said:

Betting Yianni goes down hard.

I'll take that bet.  What are the terms

[ionel]

16 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

I'll take that bet.  What are the terms

Its all in the hands of the MedicineMan.  Look at what happened to Lee & RBY, you sure you want that bet?

[Caveira]

I would think the odds of 0 pins are way better.  Even with Spencer in the finals.  

[Fadzaev2]

The return of Medicine Man, AND it's the new MM.....no more Jadidi....he's under the bus!!!

[Wrestleknownothing]

4 hours ago, ionel said:

5 in 1933.

1933 had five pinfalls in eight weight classes.

1955 also had five pinfalls, but in ten weight classes.

But bouts were longer then. For example, one of the 1933 pinfalls occurred at 12:12.

In the 10 weight, 7 minute era (1982 to present) the most was two pinfalls in 1987 and again in 2011.

The shortening of matches led to a big drop in finals pinfalls. It has been three tournaments without a pinfall in the finals. If there are none this year it will tie the longest streak of tournaments without a pinfall (1974-1977, 1994-1997, 2003-2006).

[ionel]

1 minute ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

1933 had five pinfalls in eight weight classes.

1955 also had five pinfalls, but in ten weight classes.

But bouts were longer then. For example, one of the 1933 pinfalls occurred at 12:12.

In the 10 weight, 7 minute era (1982 to present) the most was two pinfalls in 1987 and again in 2011.

The shortening of matches led to a big drop in finals pinfalls. It has been three tournaments without a pinfall in the finals. If there are none this year it will tie the longest streak of tournaments without a pinfall (1974-1977, 1994-1997, 2003-2006).

You are mistaken again sir, there were no "pinfall" in 1933 nor were there any in 1955.   Report of the first mysterious "pinfall" did not occur until mid/late 60s in the back woods of Pennsylvania.  But if a pinfalls in the woods and no one is there to see it ... 

[Wrestleknownothing]

2 minutes ago, ionel said:

You are mistaken again sir, there were no "pinfall" in 1933 nor were there any in 1955.   Report of the first mysterious "pinfall" did not occur until mid/late 60s in the back woods of Pennsylvania.  But if a pinfalls in the woods and no one is there to see it ... 

Pinfall

[ionel]

6 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Pinfall

Show me on the bracket where it says "pinfall."  Come on just humor me with a little Missouri.  

Ohh and no help from the MedicineMan.

Edited March 13, 2023 by ionel

[MedicineMan]

[bnwtwg]

@Wrestleknownothing are you emptying the clip now or do you plan to really drop the knowledge hammer as part of the annual twitter trivia contest?

[Wrestleknownothing]

7 minutes ago, bnwtwg said:

@Wrestleknownothing are you emptying the clip now or do you plan to really drop the knowledge hammer as part of the annual twitter trivia contest?

Depends. What is Twitter?

[PortaJohn]

12 hours ago, MedicineMan said:

 

16 hours ago, ionel said:

Its all in the hands of the MedicineMan.  Look at what happened to Lee & RBY, you sure you want that bet?

I forgot to finalize the bet  

[11986]

13 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

 

In the 10 weight, 7 minute era (1982 to present) the most was two pinfalls in 1987 and again in 2011.

 

I think the most significant change regarding 1982 was that Mean Gene the Pinning Machine had used up his eligibility. '81 was fairly noteworthy with Mills, the Banach brothers, and Ricky Stewart all winning by fall in the finals. 2 of those falls were over future multi time World/Olympic Gold medalists as well (Stewart over Dave Schultz and Lou Banach pinning Bruce Baumgartner). 

[MedicineMan]

FIVE PINS IN A ROW!!

SIDE NOTE:  Gallagher Reaches Finals by way of 4 Medical Forfeits.

Edited March 13, 2023 by MedicineMan

[Fadzaev2]

On 3/12/2023 at 10:31 PM, Wrestleknownothing said:

1933 had five pinfalls in eight weight classes.

1955 also had five pinfalls, but in ten weight classes.

But bouts were longer then. For example, one of the 1933 pinfalls occurred at 12:12.

In the 10 weight, 7 minute era (1982 to present) the most was two pinfalls in 1987 and again in 2011.

The shortening of matches led to a big drop in finals pinfalls. It has been three tournaments without a pinfall in the finals. If there are none this year it will tie the longest streak of tournaments without a pinfall (1974-1977, 1994-1997, 2003-2006).

Can't they just be pins or falls.....what is a pinfall?  (rhetorical question)

 

[Wrestleknownothing]

25 minutes ago, Fadzaev2 said:

Can't they just be pins or falls.....what is a pinfall?  (rhetorical question)

 

I am not sure what it is about pinfall that I love so much, but then who can explain love? Maybe because it seems old fashioned and archaic to me, even if it is neither. I just love it. And that it drives @ionel to distraction is just a bonus.

By the way, why is fall acceptible? Wrestlers fon't fall. Fall implies no outside agency. A fall is an accident. A fall is something we inflict on ourselves. A fall is preceeded by a trip. And followed by a broken hip. I have talked myself into pinfall is superior to fall.

[PortaJohn]

55 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

I am not sure what it is about pinfall that I love so much, but then who can explain love? Maybe because it seems old fashioned and archaic to me, even if it is neither. I just love it. And that it drives @ionel to distraction is just a bonus.

By the way, why is fall acceptible? Wrestlers fon't fall. Fall implies no outside agency. A fall is an accident. A fall is something we inflict on ourselves. A fall is preceeded by a trip. And followed by a broken hip. I have talked myself into pinfall is superior to fall.

This is interesting stuff. Is the correct term Pin Shoulders, Shoulders Pinned, Pin Back, Back Pin?