Interesting Qualifying Weights

[flyingcement]

Eddie Ventresca - 149
Daschle Lamer - 165
Braden Basile - 165
Jon Ley - 184
Dylan Evans - 197

any others you guys see that are unexpected?  

[Tyler Perry]

Wdym qualifying weights?

[Caveira]

4 minutes ago, Tyler Perry said:

Wdym qualifying weights?

Guessing that’s where they certified ?    

[flyingcement]

5 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Guessing that’s where they certified ?    

 

10 minutes ago, Tyler Perry said:

Wdym qualifying weights?

yes I meant certified

[ScottishSteel]

8 hours ago, flyingcement said:

Eddie Ventresca - 149
Daschle Lamer - 165
Braden Basile - 165
Jon Ley - 184
Dylan Evans - 197

any others you guys see that are unexpected?  

Of these Lamer is the most interesting to me - cause Beaver but also cause he's the only one certing at a lighter weight than he wrestled last year

[MoveCountermove]

2 hours ago, ScottishSteel said:

Of these Lamer is the most interesting to me - cause Beaver but also cause he's the only one certing at a lighter weight than he wrestled last year

Good point to make, I’m interested to see how that treats him. Quality wrestler for sure. Was he wrestling super light last season? Or did he shed bad weight this off season?

[MoveCountermove]

10 hours ago, flyingcement said:

Eddie Ventresca - 149
Daschle Lamer - 165
Braden Basile - 165
Jon Ley - 184
Dylan Evans - 197

any others you guys see that are unexpected?  

Feels like some guys are about to be put to the test! Bumping is always a change

[ScottishSteel]

42 minutes ago, MoveCountermove said:

Good point to make, I’m interested to see how that treats him. Quality wrestler for sure. Was he wrestling super light last season? Or did he shed bad weight this off season?

I've no idea what he was actually weighing in at but he's pretty long and lean on the eyeball test; no much weight (good or bad) to lose

[Ricketycricket]

Ventresca has to be some kind of error one would think. A career 126er going up 3 weights to a spot occupied by a National Champ. 

[MoveCountermove]

32 minutes ago, ScottishSteel said:

I've no idea what he was actually weighing in at but he's pretty long and lean on the eyeball test; no much weight (good or bad) to lose

I thought the same re: him being lean

[ScottishSteel]

9 minutes ago, Ricketycricket said:

Ventresca has to be some kind of error one would think. A career 126er going up 3 weights to a spot occupied by a National Champ. 

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but if he got on the scale at 141.1 during the cert it would show up as 149

[ScottishSteel]

5 minutes ago, MoveCountermove said:

I thought the same re: him being lean

I think he was at Cal Poly w/ Evan Wick - maybe that's the inspiration?

[GimJustafan]

30 minutes ago, ScottishSteel said:

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but if he got on the scale at 141.1 during the cert it would show up as 149

correct as that is the closest weight class without him going over the weight class limit in LBS

[ScottishSteel]

27 minutes ago, GimJustafan said:

correct as that is the closest weight class without him going over the weight class limit in LBS

Which really makes the Lamer one interesting cause last year he wrestled 174 so for him to cert at 165 means he's already under 165 lbs

[Idaho]

So, if you are looking at track rosters and weights, those numbers do not mean that they are wrestling that weight. Every year in October they have their initial weigh in. Ventresca could have weighed 141.1, but is still wrestling 125. Right now, Arizona State does not have a 125 or a 133 because they are all listed at 141. You can look at all rosters and see many wrestlers up a weight or two right now. For example, Josh Barr is now wrestling Heavyweight. I would not put much stock into these initial certifications. As @ScottishSteel mentioned, the more important ones are those who have already certified lower. That still does not mean they will wrestle that weight, but it does mean they can. 

[MoveCountermove]

11 minutes ago, Idaho said:

So, if you are looking at track rosters and weights, those numbers do not mean that they are wrestling that weight. Every year in October they have their initial weigh in. Ventresca could have weighed 141.1, but is still wrestling 125. Right now, Arizona State does not have a 125 or a 133 because they are all listed at 141. You can look at all rosters and see many wrestlers up a weight or two right now. For example, Josh Barr is now wrestling Heavyweight. I would not put much stock into these initial certifications. As @ScottishSteel mentioned, the more important ones are those who have already certified lower. That still does not mean they will wrestle that weight, but it does mean they can. 

Seems sensible. Ventresca at 149 would end his career on the bench, unless Henson moves and Bassett goes 141. Can’t imagine 149 being any fun for Ventresca either. 

[MoveCountermove]

1 hour ago, ScottishSteel said:

I think he was at Cal Poly w/ Evan Wick - maybe that's the inspiration?

Not a lot more needed for inspiration. Wick is a monster. Arrow consistently points up for that guy.
 

That Cal Poly team had 3 (Chance, Daschle, and Legend) Lamers and Brawley Lamer was on staff. Seems significant. Evan Wick is no longer on staff, but they picked up…*checks notes*…Nelson Brands.

[DeezyDoesIt]

14 hours ago, flyingcement said:

Eddie Ventresca - 149
Daschle Lamer - 165
Braden Basile - 165
Jon Ley - 184
Dylan Evans - 197

any others you guys see that are unexpected?  

Is there a link where you found this?

[Idaho]

7 minutes ago, DeezyDoesIt said:

Is there a link where you found this?

You can go into trackwrestling to see rosters and weight certifications. They are not correct or final since it's only Oct 6. 

[nhs67]

14 hours ago, flyingcement said:

Eddie Ventresca - 149
Daschle Lamer - 165
Braden Basile - 165
Jon Ley - 184
Dylan Evans - 197

any others you guys see that are unexpected?  

This just means that is what they weighed at during their certification.  Some schools have them make scratch for it, and some don't.

Lamer weighed between 157.1 and 165.0.

Ventresca weighed between 141.1 and 149.0.

[flyingcement]

9 hours ago, nhs67 said:

This just means that is what they weighed at during their certification.  Some schools have them make scratch for it, and some don't.

Lamer weighed between 157.1 and 165.0.

Ventresca weighed between 141.1 and 149.0.

Yes hopefully everyone knows what certified means - even though I said qualified.  

But these are still interesting nonetheless (IMHO)

[ionel]

15 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

Yes hopefully everyone knows what certified means - even though I said qualified.  

But these are still interesting nonetheless (IMHO)

Ok but where did that Braxton Amos kid certify?  

[RawDog]

11 hours ago, nhs67 said:

This just means that is what they weighed at during their certification.  Some schools have them make scratch for it, and some don't.

Lamer weighed between 157.1 and 165.0.

Ventresca weighed between 141.1 and 149.0.

Yes but isn't there also a rule where they are only allowed to lose something like 1.5 percent of their weight per week?  

So if Ventresca did weigh 149 pounds, that would be like 11 weeks before he could wrestle at 125 pounds.

[GimJustafan]

11 hours ago, RawDog said:

Yes but isn't there also a rule where they are only allowed to lose something like 1.5 percent of their weight per week?  

So if Ventresca did weigh 149 pounds, that would be like 11 weeks before he could wrestle at 125 pounds.

it would depend on minimum weight class certified for / we are unable to see that on track 

[RandolphTJones]

Ventresca ate this summer.