Mamdami's promises

[1032004]

1 minute ago, mspart said:

10378372, 

Please explain how Morhran's promises make economic sense?   In other words, the actual costs of it.   

mspart

Which ones?  I certainly don’t agree with them all.

[Caveira]

3 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

No, it’s not.   Mamdani lived in NYC during 9/11, he knows how terrible it was.  And part of the reason he got elected is because he consistently said he wanted to govern for ALL New Yorkers.   NYC is a melting pot, and him getting elected mayor indicates that at least most of those in NYC are not bigoted.  Sad that so many in the rest of the country are if they actually think he shouldn’t be at the ceremony.

He literally appeared in live appearances accepting the political support of a terrorist supporter.    He appeared with him.   Yall criticized el Trump for people endorsing him from afar.    
 

The hypocrite in you is strong 

[JimmySpeaks]

12 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

No, it’s not.   Mamdani lived in NYC during 9/11, he knows how terrible it was.  And part of the reason he got elected is because he consistently said he wanted to govern for ALL New Yorkers.   NYC is a melting pot, and him getting elected mayor indicates that at least most of those in NYC are not bigoted.  Sad that so many in the rest of the country are if they actually think he shouldn’t be at the ceremony.

Has mimbami ever denounced Hamas, the Houthis, Hezbollah, Iran for killing thousands of protestors?  Nope.  He sure is willing to talk about arresting Netanyahu if he comes to nyc even though he knows he legally can’t.  

Edited July 30 by JimmySpeaks

[1032004]

7 minutes ago, Caveira said:

He literally appeared in live appearances accepting the political support of a terrorist supporter.    He appeared with him.   Yall criticized el Trump for people endorsing him from afar.    
 

The hypocrite in you is strong 

Hey, no need to bring Israeli settler terrorist supporter Benjamin Netanyahu into this discussion. 

[1032004]

2 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Has mimbami ever denounced Hamas

Yes.  

[JimmySpeaks]

2 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Yes.  

When?  And even if he did it was to back track out of something or a lie.  

Edited July 30 by JimmySpeaks

[Caveira]

4 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Hey, no need to bring Israeli settler terrorist supporter Benjamin Netanyahu into this discussion. 

Israel isn’t on the terrorist list are they?   That’s already been posted 

you change the subject when it know our fundamentally wrong.  I’ve seen your playbook 

[JimmySpeaks]

4 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Yes.  

Ok let’s say he did. Now line up the number of times he’s done that compared to criticizing the USA and/or Israel.  You think it’s 10 to 1, 100 to 1 or more? 

[1032004]

1 minute ago, Caveira said:

Israel isn’t on the terrorist list are they?   That’s already been posted 

you change the subject when it know our fundamentally wrong.  I’ve seen your playbook 

Many of the settlers are terrorists 

[JimmySpeaks]

2 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Many of the settlers are terrorists 

Prove it. Show us the list they’re on 

Edited July 30 by JimmySpeaks

[Caveira]

11 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Yes.  

Is it kosher to marry and fornicate with someone who celebrates terrorism and Oct 7?   Or nah?

[1032004]

8 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Prove it. Show me the list they’re on 

Cool good to know you think that Sirraj Wahhaj isn’t a terrorist 

Edited July 30 by 1032004

[Simpleman424]

13 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Cool good to know you think that Sirraj Wahhaj isn’t a terrorist 

He’s not a convicted terrorist…just a terrorist sympathizer. Or you know maybe he’s grown out of all of that…

[Caveira]

17 minutes ago, Simpleman424 said:

He’s not a convicted terrorist…just a terrorist sympathizer. Or you know maybe he’s grown out of all of that…

“Americans and Canadians. Hear it well. Hear what I’m telling you well. The Americans are not your friends… The Canadians are not your friends… The Europeans are not your friends. Your friend is Allah, the Messenger and those who believe.”

……..

“Allah won’t promise you that you’re not going to die in Jihad. It is an honor to die in Jihad. Yes, an honor.”

— Siraj Wahhaj

Edited July 31 by Caveira

[1032004]

7 minutes ago, Simpleman424 said:

He’s not a convicted terrorist…just a terrorist sympathizer. Or you know maybe he’s grown out of all of that…

He was NEVER on a designated terrorist list.  Which seems to be the criteria for @JimmySpeaks.    

[mspart]

51 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Which ones?  I certainly don’t agree with them all.

Cite the ones that you agree with and how they make economic sense overall.   The same with those you disagree with.  

We can limit this to the top three if you like:   free daycare, free busses, city run grocery stores.   You can use as a tool the number of cities where this has been a long term great thing for the city in which they were tried.   KC would be a good example of why a city run grocery store doesn't work.     If you want to cite more like making rich pay more in taxes etc etc, go ahead.  

mspart

[Caveira]

8 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

He was NEVER on a designated terrorist list.  Which seems to be the criteria for @JimmySpeaks.    

“If only Muslims were clever politically, they could take over the United States and replace its constitutional government with a caliphate.”

— Siraj Wahhaj

 

Edited July 31 by Caveira

[JimmySpeaks]

8 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

He was NEVER on a designated terrorist list.  Which seems to be the criteria for @JimmySpeaks.    

Now we’re getting somewhere.  So when Mandanies wife liked an instagram post that was celebrating the Oct 7, 2023 attack on Israel he didn’t support her?  Would make them both terrorists by your definition. 

[Simpleman424]

19 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

He was NEVER on a designated terrorist list.  Which seems to be the criteria for @JimmySpeaks.    

Fun fact: He was in a NYPD intelligence/terrorism watch list Watch List in 2004. Probably for nothing though…

[1032004]

2 hours ago, mspart said:

Cite the ones that you agree with and how they make economic sense overall.   The same with those you disagree with.  

We can limit this to the top three if you like:   free daycare, free busses, city run grocery stores.   You can use as a tool the number of cities where this has been a long term great thing for the city in which they were tried.   KC would be a good example of why a city run grocery store doesn't work.     If you want to cite more like making rich pay more in taxes etc etc, go ahead.  

mspart

I don’t think the grocery stores are a good idea.

I can’t guarantee they will be successful long term but I’m ok with free buses and free childcare.    I also don’t think even Mamdani has claimed they “make economic sense,” moreso that he thinks they are a barrier he wants to remove for the lower class.  But there are some ways they might not be as bad as people think economically:

Free buses - reduces traffic and need for cars, and enables both workers and employers to have a wider geographic area that they can work at/hire, potentially improving home values (and thus property tax revenue) in further out parts of the city.

Free childcare - having to pay for childcare likely forces more families to have a parent stay home.   Free childcare removes that, creating a larger workforce or potential for starting a new small business.

I don’t agree with an extra tax on millionaires, but I think the extra tax for second homes makes sense.  Most of these people are by definition not NYC residents so they may not be there very often in order to contribute to the economy.  This tax could make it more likely that when these homes sell they are sold to actual residents.

I also am in favor of a policy he had to remove property tax caps - this was the source of the famous “whiter neighborhoods” line that a lot of RW talking heads flipped out about.   But he didn’t want to tax them at a higher rate than everyone else, currently they’re paying a lower rate so he just wanted everyone to pay the same rate.

[JimmySpeaks]

1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

I don’t think the grocery stores are a good idea.

I can’t guarantee they will be successful long term but I’m ok with free buses and free childcare.    I also don’t think even Mamdani has claimed they “make economic sense,” moreso that he thinks they are a barrier he wants to remove for the lower class.  But there are some ways they might not be as bad as people think economically:

Free buses - reduces traffic and need for cars, and enables both workers and employers to have a wider geographic area that they can work at/hire, potentially improving home values (and thus property tax revenue) in further out parts of the city.

Free childcare - having to pay for childcare likely forces more families to have a parent stay home.   Free childcare removes that, creating a larger workforce or potential for starting a new small business.

I don’t agree with an extra tax on millionaires, but I think the extra tax for second homes makes sense.  Most of these people are by definition not NYC residents so they may not be there very often in order to contribute to the economy.  This tax could make it more likely that when these homes sell they are sold to actual residents.

I also am in favor of a policy he had to remove property tax caps - this was the source of the famous “whiter neighborhoods” line that a lot of RW talking heads flipped out about.   But he didn’t want to tax them at a higher rate than everyone else, currently they’re paying a lower rate so he just wanted everyone to pay the same rate.

NOTHING IS FREE 

[red viking]

With all this MDS, im thinking hes a good candidate for POTUS in 2028. LETS GO!!!!

[1032004]

23 minutes ago, red viking said:

With all this MDS, im thinking hes a good candidate for POTUS in 2028. LETS GO!!!!

I’d agree he could be a future Prez, 2028 is a little early though.  Newsom will have to change the eligibility requirements during his second term.

[red viking]

18 hours ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Has mimbami ever denounced Hamas, the Houthis, Hezbollah, Iran for killing thousands of protestors?  Nope.  He sure is willing to talk about arresting Netanyahu if he comes to nyc even though he knows he legally can’t.  

Netanyahu should be arrested, imprisoned and executed if allowed by law. Hes a mass genocidal murderer  

This mamdi guy is sounding better and better all the time  

Edited July 31 by red viking

[WrestlingRasta]

4 hours ago, 1032004 said:

I’d agree he could be a future Prez, 2028 is a little early though.  Newsom will have to change the eligibility requirements during his second term.

At no point in time would Newsome, or anyone for that matter, be able to change the requirements for his eligibility. Are you sure one person having that power is a road you want to travel down?