TheJimReaper Posted March 25 Posted March 25 4 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said: losing 3 times at one tournament is special and deserves recognition. he lost once more than all the guys that went 0-2. and you feel good about that? He also won more than them so idk what your point is. You haven’t put together a coherent sentence during this entire conversation. 2
nhs67 Posted March 25 Posted March 25 23 hours ago, Owen Rector said: NC State: 125 Vince Robinson 133 Zach Redding 141 Daniel Zepeda 149 Koy Buesguens 157 Jackson Arrington 165 Will Denny 174 Lorenzo Alston 184 Matty Singleton 197 Pat Brophy 285 Cason Howle The lineup will probably look very different, but this is one way it could look. I think it is more likely we see Denny redshirt and Zapeda at 165 than 141. Zapeda was 9W-1L at 157lbs, with his lone loss via 11-8 Decision to Joe Sealey. 2 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
OMW Posted March 25 Posted March 25 15 hours ago, The_KC_Godfather said: Askren mentioned that he thought Landon and Dee both looked like they were cutting a lot of weight and if he’s reading it right, they may bump. If they did… 125: Spratley (Sidun RS) By Sidun, were you meaning Zinkin?
WrestlingRash Posted March 25 Posted March 25 9 minutes ago, TheJimReaper said: He also won more than them so idk what your point is. You haven’t put together a coherent sentence during this entire conversation. 3 loses isn't an all american. but if you feel good about it, do your thing. 1
OopsyDaisy1 Posted March 25 Posted March 25 1 hour ago, WrestlingRash said: 3 loses isn't an all american. but if you feel good about it, do your thing. I created an account just because this is hilarious. 6th and 8th placed guys both have 3 losses. 7th place only has 2. So people who come in 7th are AAs but people who come in 6th aren't? Also, AA is something that has some arbitrary meaning people can different opinions on. It's literally defined as wrestlers who place in spots 1-8. If you want to say "Oklahoma State will only have 5 guys that finish in the top 4 next year", then that's fine. But it's very different than saying "Oklahoma State will only have 5 AAs." 2
OopsyDaisy1 Posted March 25 Posted March 25 43 minutes ago, OopsyDaisy1 said: I created an account just because this is hilarious. 6th and 8th placed guys both have 3 losses. 7th place only has 2. So people who come in 7th are AAs but people who come in 6th aren't? Also, AA is something that has some arbitrary meaning people can different opinions on. It's literally defined as wrestlers who place in spots 1-8. If you want to say "Oklahoma State will only have 5 guys that finish in the top 4 next year", then that's fine. But it's very different than saying "Oklahoma State will only have 5 AAs." Oops. AA isn't something that has some arbitrary meaning.... I'm dumb. 1
AlderPeak Posted March 25 Posted March 25 VT: 125 Eddie Ventresca 133 Aaron Seidel/Dillon Campbell 141 Bo Bassett /Aaron Seidel 149 Caleb Henson/Bo Bassett 157 Collin Gaj/Noah Nininger/Caleb Henson 165 Ryan Burton 174 Sergio Desiante/Ryan Burton/Transfer 184 Jaden Bullock/Transfer 197 Sonny Sasso/Transfer 285 Jimmy Mullen/Transfer 133-157 should be determined by what weight Caleb wants to wrestle. I don't think you see Bo or Seidel take a redshirt in either configuration. A month ago, I would have though Gaj could redshirt next year and Nininger slots in at 57, but after the tourney Gaj had, I'm not so sure you can leave him out of the lineup next year. Burton takes 65 or 74 next season before settling at 74 the following year. I also think VT could possibly beat the portal bush at 174 and above to see what shakes out. 3
wrestlingfan22 Posted March 25 Posted March 25 Pitt Panthers: 125: Tyler Chappell (1-2 at NCAAs)/ Matt Marlow (Backup) 133: Evan Tallmadge (DNQ)/ Karson Brown (FR) 141: Briar Priest (DNQ)/ Anthony Santaniello (Backup)/ Karson Brown (FR) 149: Kade Brown (0-2 at NCAAs)/Finn Solomon (INJ) 157: Dylan Evans (2-2 at NCAAs)/Vince Bouzakis (RS)/Finn Solomon (INJ) 165: Jared Keslar (1-2 at NCAAs)/Dylan Evans (2-2 at NCAAs)/Vince Bouzakis (RS) 174: Bode Marlow (RS)/Jared Keslar (1-2 at NCAAs) 184: Chase Kranitz (1-2 at NCAAs) 197: Mac Stout (2025 AA (7th), 2026 2-2 at NCAAs) 285: Dayton Pitzer (2025 and 2026 BR at NCAAs) Lineup has a real strong backend, but Stout really fell apart to the end of this season. He beat McDanel (5th) by TF earlier this year and beat John (who knocked him out) 11-6 earlier this year. He had a very open path to being a high AA or even a finalist with Elams injury and how the bracket was drawn but he was not able to take advantage of that. Pitzer has had brutal HWT brackets the last two years. Next year we see 5 of the AAs and the entire top 4 graduate. Only AJF (who might be on a different team or move down to 197 or get arrested again), Keuter, and Carroll return. It will still be stacked with guys like Taylor, Feldman, Mirasola, and Amos back next year but I think Pitzer has a real shot to finally get on that podium. 133-174 is a question mark on who wants to be what weights and who beats who in the room and what exactly the plan is with Karson Brown. Some guys like Fanella and Petrovich come off RS and could always sneak into the lineup. I would be shocked if any major transfers come in, but I could see some guys leaving that won't be able to break into the lineup. 1
Idaho Posted March 25 Posted March 25 18 hours ago, Truzzcat said: Stanford: 125: Provo 133: Knox 141: Consiglio 149: Valencia 157: Parco/Cardenas 165: Cardenas/Garvin 174: Garvin/Norman 184: Norman 197: Posada 285: - I think bumping Cardeans/garvin/norman to get Parco in is the best fit all around in my opinion Norman is too big for 174 as well. I like this lineup with EJ at 157, Cardenas - Garvin _ Norman - Posada If they can at least get portal HWT they will be trophy contenders. Sponsored by INTERMAT
Idaho Posted March 25 Posted March 25 2 hours ago, OopsyDaisy1 said: Oops. AA isn't something that has some arbitrary meaning.... I'm dumb. If only it were youth wrestling where there are 127 tournaments that label you as AA... or at least that's what the flyer says. I was a 13x AA by the way. Sponsored by INTERMAT
huskerlucas Posted March 25 Posted March 25 7 hours ago, Konquest said: 'Skers: 125-Kael Lauridsen 133-Jacob VanDee 141-Jake Hockaday (Freshman) 149-Nikade Zinkin (Freshman) 157-Antrell Taylor 165-LJ Araujo 174-Tophy Minto 184-Ty Eise (Freshman) 197-Cam McDanel HWT-AJ Ferrari/Cade Ziola (Freshman) This freshman class is a good one. From what I saw of them, Zinkin and Eise need to get stronger, which they will in that program. Brock Hardy has great things to say about Hockaday. 5 returning AA's, 2 of whom have won National Championships in the past. LJ should be an AA next year, monster on top. Top 5 team. Transfer at 125/149 could be in play, AJ to 97 McDanel rs Ziola hwt
Idaho Posted March 25 Posted March 25 (edited) 24 minutes ago, huskerlucas said: Transfer at 125/149 could be in play, AJ to 97 McDanel rs Ziola hwt AJ is going to cut 25-30 lbs to go down and Face Josh Barr when 5 of the top 7 HWT graduate? Hmmmm. Edited March 25 by Idaho Sponsored by INTERMAT
Fred Posted March 25 Posted March 25 6 hours ago, WrestlingRash said: 3 loses isn't an all american. but if you feel good about it, do your thing. 1
LoserJucoMan Posted March 25 Posted March 25 6 hours ago, WrestlingRash said: I have no dog in the race, just never liked okie state. Also, I made my position clear. Someone who loses 3 times at NCAAs is not an all american in my book. 8th place doesn't count. Wait why do you not consider them all americans? Do you consider 8th place not deserving of placing? Do you want it like states where only the top 6 make the podium?
jbai3_12 Posted March 25 Posted March 25 1 hour ago, Idaho said: I like this lineup with EJ at 157, Cardenas - Garvin _ Norman - Posada If they can at least get portal HWT they will be trophy contenders. I like Norman in the mix at 184
nhs67 Posted March 25 Posted March 25 20 minutes ago, LoserJucoMan said: Wait why do you not consider them all americans? Do you consider 8th place not deserving of placing? Do you want it like states where only the top 6 make the podium? 6th takes three losses as well, though. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
WrestlingRash Posted March 25 Posted March 25 32 minutes ago, LoserJucoMan said: Wait why do you not consider them all americans? Do you consider 8th place not deserving of placing? Do you want it like states where only the top 6 make the podium? I'd like top 6 only. I think we have way too many AAs. 25% of every brackets makes AA. There are 80 programs so 10% of all D1 starters make AA. I'd be fine with top 5%, but as it is now, it is watered down. 1
silvermedal2 Posted March 25 Posted March 25 Ohio State: 125: Bouzakis/Kikeary 133: Davino 141: Don't know/McCrone 149: Maddox Shaw 157: Stiles 165: Cannon 174: Birden 184: Fishbach 197: Shumate/Geog Hvy: Feldman Things to watch....Transfer at 149.....need another Hvy. Feldman was overused this season. Same for Fishbach. Shaw may be too big for 149. If Stanich hits the portal, he'd be an ideal pick up. Same for Crookham. Based on current roster, Brendan McCrone could emerge as the 141. Does Ryder Rogotzke hit the portal? Or Shumate? Or McCrone? Or KIlkeary?
RandolphTJones Posted March 25 Posted March 25 16 minutes ago, silvermedal2 said: Ohio State: 125: Bouzakis/Kikeary 133: Davino 141: Don't know/McCrone 149: Maddox Shaw 157: Stiles 165: Cannon 174: Birden 184: Fishbach 197: Shumate/Geog Hvy: Feldman Things to watch....Transfer at 149.....need another Hvy. Feldman was overused this season. Same for Fishbach. Shaw may be too big for 149. If Stanich hits the portal, he'd be an ideal pick up. Same for Crookham. Based on current roster, Brendan McCrone could emerge as the 141. Does Ryder Rogotzke hit the portal? Or Shumate? Or McCrone? Or KIlkeary? Karson Brown just flipped to Ohio State. Projected 141/149. Had a hell of a match with Jax this year at Powerade. 4
Tyler Perry Posted March 26 Posted March 26 23 hours ago, The_KC_Godfather said: Mizzou: 125: Mack Mauger 133: Gage Walker 141: Zeke Seltzer 149: Seth Mendoza 157: J Conway/Kollin Rath 165: Dom Bambinelli 174: Cam Steed 184: Aedeon Sinclair 197: Logan Cole/Transfer 285: Jarrett Stoner/Sampson Stillwell (would be awesome if one of them could get to 197) Logan Cole
Jayd Posted March 26 Posted March 26 36 minutes ago, silvermedal2 said: Ohio State: 125: Bouzakis/Kikeary 133: Davino 141: Don't know/McCrone 149: Maddox Shaw 157: Stiles 165: Cannon 174: Birden 184: Fishbach 197: Shumate/Geog Hvy: Feldman Things to watch....Transfer at 149.....need another Hvy. Feldman was overused this season. Same for Fishbach. Shaw may be too big for 149. If Stanich hits the portal, he'd be an ideal pick up. Same for Crookham. Based on current roster, Brendan McCrone could emerge as the 141. Does Ryder Rogotzke hit the portal? Or Shumate? Or McCrone? Or KIlkeary? I don't see Bouzakis at 125 next year..Fishback could be at 197, could Joey Blaze portal? Maybe Jaxon Joy? Stanich would be a great pick up if he hit the Portal.. 1
Tyler Perry Posted March 26 Posted March 26 21 hours ago, Truzzcat said: Probably one of the things I am most excited about for next year is that with a lot of the top teams I really do not think we know what the lineups are going to look like without educated guesses. three teams that will be very good that are not Tech/PSU/OKST/tOSU Stanford: 125: Provo 133: Knox 141: Consiglio 149: Valencia 157: Parco/Cardenas 165: Cardenas/Garvin 174: Garvin/Norman 184: Norman 197: Posada 285: - I think bumping Cardeans/garvin/norman to get Parco in is the best fit all around in my opinion Norman is too big for 174 as well. Missouri: 125: Mauger 133: Walker 141: - 149: Mendoza 157: Rath 165: Conway/Bambinelli 174: Steed 184: Sinclair 197: - 285: Stoner Cornell: 125: Milani/I. Cortez 133: I. Cortez/ Ferrera/ E. Cortez 141: Cornella/ E. Cortez 149: Joy 157: Shapiro 165: Perentin 174: Ruiz 184: Eli D (no idea how big he is currently)/ Cerchio 197: Correa 285: Davis/Henderson/Eli D 125: V-Rob 133: Hohman 141: Diet Zepeda 149: Buesgens 157: Arrington 165: Denny 174: Singleton 184: - 197: - 285: - Michigan: 125: Botero/Asilkyan 133: Moses Mendoza 141: Lemley 149: Hilton 157: Catrabone 165: Gilcher 174: Beau Man 184: Brock Man 197: Walters 285: Sahakian Lemley redshirted this year cuz he wanted to bump to 49 1
Tyler Perry Posted March 26 Posted March 26 9 hours ago, lu1979 said: Lehigh 125 - Ziegler (M Lopes if he can make 125) 133 - R Crookham/M Lopes 141 - L Stanich 149 - Griffin/Evanitsky/Repos 157 - Rozynski/Van Hoven 165 - Rozynski/Van Hoven 174 - Ferericci/Dubler 184 - Rylan Rogers 197 - Caden Rogers 285 - N Taylor The 2 weeks that Crookham wrestles next year will hit like crack 3
Tyler Perry Posted March 26 Posted March 26 3 hours ago, wrestlingfan22 said: Pitt Panthers: 125: Tyler Chappell (1-2 at NCAAs)/ Matt Marlow (Backup) 133: Evan Tallmadge (DNQ)/ Karson Brown (FR) 141: Briar Priest (DNQ)/ Anthony Santaniello (Backup)/ Karson Brown (FR) 149: Kade Brown (0-2 at NCAAs)/Finn Solomon (INJ) 157: Dylan Evans (2-2 at NCAAs)/Vince Bouzakis (RS)/Finn Solomon (INJ) 165: Jared Keslar (1-2 at NCAAs)/Dylan Evans (2-2 at NCAAs)/Vince Bouzakis (RS) 174: Bode Marlow (RS)/Jared Keslar (1-2 at NCAAs) 184: Chase Kranitz (1-2 at NCAAs) 197: Mac Stout (2025 AA (7th), 2026 2-2 at NCAAs) 285: Dayton Pitzer (2025 and 2026 BR at NCAAs) Lineup has a real strong backend, but Stout really fell apart to the end of this season. He beat McDanel (5th) by TF earlier this year and beat John (who knocked him out) 11-6 earlier this year. He had a very open path to being a high AA or even a finalist with Elams injury and how the bracket was drawn but he was not able to take advantage of that. Pitzer has had brutal HWT brackets the last two years. Next year we see 5 of the AAs and the entire top 4 graduate. Only AJF (who might be on a different team or move down to 197 or get arrested again), Keuter, and Carroll return. It will still be stacked with guys like Taylor, Feldman, Mirasola, and Amos back next year but I think Pitzer has a real shot to finally get on that podium. 133-174 is a question mark on who wants to be what weights and who beats who in the room and what exactly the plan is with Karson Brown. Some guys like Fanella and Petrovich come off RS and could always sneak into the lineup. I would be shocked if any major transfers come in, but I could see some guys leaving that won't be able to break into the lineup. You might wanna sit down when I tell you this about Karson Brown…. 2
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