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There is a level of excellence beyond which you basically have to be what most people see as a sociopath in order to achieve your goals. Kolat has this, Slay has this (personal experience), Dake definitely has this to be as successful as he was coming out of Cornell, he did EVERYTHING himself, he’s a lone mountain man as arguably any of the very top tier coming out of the US have ever been. His cornell teams were pretty good, but not on his level. He had to go to some deep places on his own, didn’t really have a team, and those experiences are so crucial for making really great coaches. If he was a coach he’d basically be Pai Mei from kill bill.

truth He also has stated multiple times, he is family oriented and the college coaching demands do not match his preferred lifestyle. I think the same could have been said to an extent about DT, so if the check is big enough, his lifestyle preferences might adjust.

I'm going to (puff puff) pass on Zahid. . .

He'll be too young soon anyway.

Has anyone had enough experience observing Dake in coaching situations or even in training situations that would lead one to believe that he would be good head coaching material? I have no opinion either way, but in talking with a few who have worked with him, he has not left a good impression.

Hey everyone who am I ? NO standing up for your beliefs/ the other side has beliefs too NO having an opinion before waiting until the judges have decided NO arguing its mean NO derailing a thread with info that has nothing to do with the title of the thread Always look at the message and not the messenger Do as I say not as I’d do when I do it it’s funny it’s ok to have TDS

I wrestled tons of freestyle when I was a kid and in college. States. Fargo. Etc. I liked it. Tbh. You already have a freestyle season. Why come for folkstyle season? Can’t we just have both. Folkstyle can have the fans and the better national tournament. Freestyle can have far less attend the us open and wtt and we can be fine.

He’s not wrong…

Who passes on KD...

I’m too old to be yelling Fbombs at the TV over a hockey game. Both teams score two goals in 11 seconds each. Panthers get the win to go up 3-1 in the battle of Florida! What a game. Elimination on the table Wednesday night Night night all.

Well I am of a different opinion, I think that adding the push out rule would add another layer to Folkstyle. I like the current Freestyle rules, the pace is far quicker and I believe the fans like it. But I recognize that Folkstyle is different and the size of a particular mat may be an issue, so unless the NCAA’s adopt this rule, this is purely argumentative.

Freestyle isn’t as exciting unfortunately. Used to be years ago…. Pre ball grab and the other rules. Not so much any more.

The majority of people don’t like what is foreign to them. In my experience, most wrestlers and fans that truly get to know both styles end up preferring freestyle. I know that won’t change your mind and that’s ok. I agree we don’t have to completely change folkstyle. But I don’t think there’s anything wrong with changing the rules to make a good product better.

I propose we try this at a single tournament next year and Soldier Salute seems appropriate. Slight modification in rules: pushout 2pt, takedown 1pt, leglace -1pt. It should be exiting!

This board had argued this time and again majority of fans don’t like freestyle majority of athletes don’t like freestyle. most “wrestling” Americans don’t care if we do better in worlds or Olympics and we’re already a world power so there isn’t much more we can improve on the world stage I posted #s to back both up last summer maybe. Not going to look up the thread….. very very small % of wrestlers make it to the wtt level. You’re ruining a sport for more athletes for a few more / better medals. It’s selfish on the freestyle peeps part. pretend this is in caps: you already have a freestyle season. Use it. you don’t have to wrestle folkstyle if you want to be a oly champ… you just can go to Colorado or a rtc no one is stopping the super elite from being super elite. Freestyle is everywhere. Go wrestle it if you want to. leave folkstyle alone. You will ruin it for 85+% of the fans.

I don’t think they (UWW) care what America does with its folkstyle. I do think we would be better served and have a better product if we could work some freestyle concepts into folk. Step outs would be a huge improvement. I also would like to see some way stop the boring endless riding (ex. The ref brings them up after a certain amount of time). I do like the control aspect of folkstyle but overall the rules are better in freestyle. We could definitely make folk a little more like free while still maintaining the core concepts of folkstyle

I don’t disagree/argue the push out guy won the match. I think the rules are just stupid. So fair. But. Please don’t pollute folkstyle with this nonsense. Could you imagine a push out rule at NCAAs with those tiny little mats given how small the venues are.

Yes, and I don’t think anyone would disagree, but it’s part of the rules. And in this particular case, the amount of push outs won.

They just gave Tom a new contract correct?

Nah, he's much more into the health, wellbeing, longevity aspects of human physiology. Does he even have his own wrestling club that he coaches?

Everyone knows that heavyweight matches are the least dynamic. For one thing, moving all that weight around is pretty tough. It's also fairly obvious that heavyweights are an extreme end of the size spectrum. So that means the talent pool at heavyweight is smaller than the talent pools at other weight classes. Further, heavyweight is almost certainly thinner than the other extreme of 125 because there are other good non-wrestling options for athletic big dudes -- like football or basketball -- whereas there aren't a lot of similar options for the 125 pounders. So it would make sense if heavyweight were normally the absolute thinnest weight class. Now when you look at Hodge winners over the past few years, four out of six have been heavyweights. What is the deal there? I don't know enough to draw conclusions, so please chime in.

Well if Dake announces that he wants to coach, I have to believe it will be great for college wrestling, just like it was when David Taylor took the job at Ok.St. This past year with Nebraska and Ok.St.’s performances I believe was a huge factor in energizing our sport.

Ok then go 57kg.

I thought dake had the midichlorian count to get younger and go 57 to challenge Lee?

And otherwise maybe Connell could bump up if Moore is taking 184 anyway