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Given Penn State's history wouldn't one expect the AD and/or president would immediately come out and make a statement? Generally these days you want to be ahead of the story. It wouldn't have to be much just minimum: "we are following university proceedure" "information has been turned over to the police and they are investigating" "we've hired an outside firm to investigate" etc. Has any such statement been made or released? Alternatively the president could just announce: "this is one big nothingburger!"

What reality?

I thought like ~5 guys or something, I have literally no idea what that could mean in this context then lol

Get out of here. People are people with or without Jesus. Christians and other religious people have a ton of hypocrisy, just like everybody else. It's fine to laugh at the comeuppance of someone who pretended to something they aren't, but it's pretty sad to start lobbing stuff at David Carr because you don't like how Aaron Brooks or Snyder have lived. Like somehow attending a completely different university but daring to be friendly with other wrestlers is some indication of a problem. Also it's hilarious that you think public shows of religion is a USA thing.

Maybe a crate of HGH because that's the only thing that can explain the size of Brooks enormous Barry Bonds ass lookin head

I dunno. I don’t know if I should google it lol. How many people per group ? Some are saying in comments about a crate race being involved

I've probably said it before but those that really ride the Jesus train that publicly do seem the most bankrupt and this isn't just in wrestling, we've seen this all over the place. The way Brooks talked about DT that time in the podcast after he left for OSU was crazy to hear. I honestly don't care whether someone is religious or not but the extent that Snyder and Brooks went and to a lesser degree Starocci just goes to show they can justify anything as long as they are of the delusion they can just confess their sins every Sunday... Im really holding out hope that David Carr is not like these guys but he seemed really close to Aaron so we'll see. I just can't imagine people wearing an "Allah Trained" or "Buddha trained" shirt or head band. I mean it's hilarious to even think about... How about guys wearing socks with Shiva on them... Not sure what it is with the US going so hard in that direction.

Isn’t that where you race to see who can finish a 30 pack of beer first between two groups lol

Reminds me of the Talladega Nights quote — there are good days in wrestling and there are bad days in wrestling. Cael Sanderson just had himself a bad day

What I feel bad for. If you read posts on the minnow front. Yes I know it’s the minnow. The comments are crazy. People think “this” forum is crazy. The girls are liars. Money hungry. Sleezes. All crazy stuff. Etc…. like some over aged fat wrestling fan knows what happened to these girls. A lot of trash fans still defending psu till their death. Some still saying still a “5 timer” things like that. Crazy world out there. wtf is a crate race? That keeps getting mentioned and I’ve never heard of one.

Ya, you’re definitely sensitive. It’s called a lawyer, dumbass. Wow, I came up with a way to make sure an insurance company has to pay a legal claim and I dont have near the intelligence level of someone that has worked for said insurance companies. Thank goodness the justice system takes cases from us low IQ people. Hopefully it’s not to difficult for everyone to figure out if they have been wronged to take the party that wronged you to court. That is a brain buster. I already explained why they denied the claim. Insurance companies have done it literally hundreds of thousands of times.

Ono to OSU?

They’re considering renaming it just “the valley”

Oklahoma State for the team title

WTF is happening. Penn State is truly imploding. No way Bo goes there now. Cael may resign before the 4th of July.

For the record I think both were juicing. It’s gotta be super rare to accidentally take something.

wtf is going on in this room lol

If either story is true, then both are blameles; but, I doubt that either one made a blameless mistake. In any event, both have the responsibility for atoning. . . blameless or not.

depends what your (personal) values are. do you think it's fine to just throw bags of cash? or do you think monetary offers should be tied to reality? not saying there's a right answer. but there's certainly a right answer based on what's best for DI wrestling.

Hey Chrome, I like this post of yours. It makes sense to me. Well said. Regarding my DT comment, I was wondering if he would be getting caught up in all that Starocci stuff, not knowing they didn't like each other. If DT knew about all these shenanigans (if they are true) and kept quiet, then you have to wonder what he will do at OSU. That was my thought anyway. I was thinking there could be direct link made. I know it is different for athletes and coaches, but he was an athlete that went straight to head coach. So I wondered. mspart

I hope he becomes mayor. The mass exodus of people with money will only become a bigger deal. They’ll replace them with people that need to be funded. A recipe for disaster and I’ll be enjoying it while eating popcorn. New Yorkers deserve it.

Well said Brucey. mspart

I agree with you on this specific technology. And on red light cameras/speed cameras. The other is the collecting of "metadata" from communications companies. So, on principles of privacy and curtailing the surveillance state I agree with you. I do think we need to apply the 4th amendment much more broadly to encompass a concept of "secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects" that takes into account indirect but still unreasonable searches like mass surveillance and tracking.

Hoping Ben and Amy get this all straightened out. If people are really this invested, they should give to the go fund me account for him. mspart