Lleynor

This topic went off the rails a bit. MM goes undefeated and he'll probably get the #1 or #2 seed. What's crazy is if O'Toole beats Carr again, Carr should be the #4. And these two meet on Friday evening!

On a team full of superstars, he stands out. Do I mean he's the best wrestler on the team? No. But he's Nolf. He's Taylor. He's entertainment at its finest. Wrestlers like him can put new fans in seats.

I was asking about Recruits that were labeled generational coming out of HS.

Yes. I almost said Dustin something, but knew that didn't sound quite right. I remember reading about him a good bit back in the day. Wasn't he at Apple Valley?

Was Cael considered one coming out of High School? I didn't follow Collegiate Wrestling Recruiting at that time. And when I ask that, I mean was he at a Spencer Lee, Yianni, Marsteller, or Mark Hall level. Those and the guy who went to Wisconsin are the ones that I remember hearing about the most that were true can't misses, although that Wisky kid never really panned out. I've since seen HS videos of Kolat, and he appears to have been generational as well. Just curious what other guys were considered upper guarantee that I didn't really get to witness.

I have always wondered how things would've been for him at 86 and Yaz staying at 74. I think Sadulaev had to go up. But I think Yaz still looks like he could drop back to 74. As good as he is at 86, he was otherworldly at 74. That was his ideal weight, IMO.

My God, I hope you're kidding. The Authority lies with the HC at any program, of any sport.

Of course he had a say-so! And the coaches had the ability to override him, and say "get healthy." And they did not. Was that 11-year drought, that forced the 2021 run, really worth it for him? I'm sure it was for the Brands'. But, eventually, it will not be for Lee.

Did Snyder blow his knee out? Did Snyder wrestle a part time schedule to still do Freestyle events? Everything Iowa did to/for Lee was only about what they can get from him. Wrestling without ACLs? Come on...

Now that is very true. I agree completely. Anything is easier when freakish strength is involved. The guy reminded me of a Freestyle version of the 197 Cornell guy a few years ago. Long levers, and just so smooth using his length to his advantage, and utilized ideally for his specialty. That guy would ride in Folk easily, and also reverse easily. The Taz guy literally had zero offensive points on Snyder. Zero!! And yet, he teched him.

You know what's cooler than an NCAA Championship? An Olympic Gold... I don't want to see to Vito what happened to Spencer Lee. In my opinion, the worst thing Lee ever did was wrestle at Iowa. His trajectory was through the roof. He should've healed those knees and went straight to the OTC. Now, us fans last memory of him is him looking up as the mat was slapped. I looooove college wrestling. Love it. But I am in love with World Dominance at the International level on all professional sports. I want 6 Golds in Paris for us! I just wish our best could get reps earlier. Hell, Snyder skipped his Senior year of High school to train, and look how that turned out for him!

Comparing Taz to Bolt is an absolute insult to this kid. He didn't big brother either of those guys. It was literally technique and leverage. I'm sorry, the guy isn’t all that muscular, at all. But when he gets more matured, physically, into 97, oh my.

Even though he went through a buzzsaw, he didn't tech and pin every match. Home cooking maybe?

Thanks to everyone who responded to me asking how he lost. With that said, someone asked if he's improved since 19? That's a fair question. Having the Russian Tank in your class is tough, but this beat down is an absolute head scratcher. Why panic like you guys made it sound like he did? One of his biggest strengths has always been his gas tank. Push in the second! Nickel and dime the Bahrain guy! Damn, two 4s?!?!?!

Agree.

For those of you us who couldn't see it, what happened with Snyder? Was the Bahrain guy THAT MUCH better??

Well, that's 1 of 4. There's 3 other spots I see. And JB was a 74 Phenom, as Taylor is now one at 86.

Until he gets MT. Rushmore consideration? 3 worlds and an Olympic Gold is crazy. If he would've won the 2021 World, would he get the consideration already?

Looks like call reversed

When are the finals for yesterday's weight?

When do names like Taylor, Dake, or maybe Burroughs get thrown in? When do they consider a jump? After the Olympics?

Lee beat Yianni not too long ago in FS. Yes, I know Chance did as well, but that 2 of 3 seems impossible for him.

If only Hall could go 74 or 79.

For what it's worth, I am a Taylor fan boy. And Burroughs, and Dake, and Retherford, Steveson, Yianni, Gilman, etc. College Fandom is thrown out the window once at the Senior level. I could care less what college they attended. I want our best 6, or 10 in offseason Olympics, to compete. And I cheer that Red, White, and Blue no matter who wears it.

From a FS perspective, I can't put Dake above Taylor. That Oly Gold trumps that Bronze. Even if Dake has one more World Gold.