Dogbone

I am in the middle. I know he has improved the program since he arrived, but with their resources and recruiting advantages, I would think being in the top 10 every year would not be that high of standard for Rutgers wrestling. It could be a case where he has taken the program as far as he can but the program has higher potential?

Dake has 2 World Titles at 79KG and 2 world titles at 74KG. The only reason the Olympics have more weight in fans minds is because they bring in more non wrestling fans, just like all of the Olympic sports except basketball and golf. No one pays attention to gymnastics or swimming until the Olympics either. Dake will be an Olympic champion and receive everything that comes with it, NBC coverage, Today Show, etc. No one will reference that Russia didn't show. If some losers on the internet want to say, well he won 4 world titles but his Olympic title isn't as great because Sidakov didn't participate. so what.

I miss the Transfer Portal thread? Oh wait it is still active and used frequently.

It's a good question. I don't know if competing during a red shirt year counts as a competition for the above exception but I know regular redshirts do not have to be tied to a specific team. In general, you have 5 years to compete 4 years. If you haven't been on scholarship for 2 years (because you weren't in school) it makes sense you wouldn't be tied to your original institution. The other question would be does Gable need to be on scholarship to compete and, if not, is that other loophole? If he is going to get NIL, it could cover the cost of the scholarship, you would think the rules wouldn't prevent a "walk-on" from competing as strictly as scholarship athletes. And presumably he wasn't on scholarship at Minnesota the previous year (2 years?).

I am not going to pretend to be an expert and admittedly this information might be outdated but I did find this: https://www.athleticscholarships.net/ncaa-transfer-exceptions Also, I believe Minnesota can agree to waiver if they choose if an exception doesn't apply.

Coming in for a visit is a long ways from making a roster, even practice squad. Adam Coon was in mini camp with the Titans but was cut before the season. I hope Gable can make a roster if that's what he chooses to pursue but my point is just because you get a call to workout or they have "interest" doesn't mean he will be with a team in the fall. Teams sign a bunch of undrafted rookies this time of year and most get cut.

USA! USA! USA!

Is this a new PSU thing now? Announcing you are coming back to use all of your eligibility. Is it a by product of the extra covid year? Maybe I missed it when other guys have done and the PSU guys (Starocci and Kerk, RBY last year) have higher profile but I don't get.

NFL teams likely just want to kick the tires for a tryout or something. Give him a small deal to come to a mini camp and then cut him. At 265 he probably a D End? Has he ever played football? MMA seems very logical but if I were him I would maximize the NIL value and wrestle one more year. He won't get another shot again and can still do MMA after the season.

Looks nice. Some of the glass seems to go to other rooms so the natural light might be below the new standard for wrestling rooms. It was also nice of Virginia Tech to let them use their wrestling mats.

Picture of the special new Orange uniform??

Maybe he did tho...

Zeke

Yes, I understand that it what he was implying. I am not buying it. He didn't turn down money to leave PSU out of loyalty. He accepted PSU's NIL offer that was more than any other college wrestler "by a lot"

Yawn. Starroci has become the girl who cried wolf. Starocci also talked a lot of smack to JB and claimed he was going to make 163. Not only could he not make the weight, he is now a 197 lber... He also claimed to be the highest paid NIL college wrestler "by a lot" but now claims he said no to big pay day. He also wasn't going to come back because he hated school, which changed as soon as he was or wasn't offered a big paid that he accepted or didn't accepted depending on the day/his mood.

The really smart coaches wait until the 2nd half of practice when the studs are a little tired to jump in. Helps keep the legacy going.

I wasn't assuming Taylor would get rid of him. I was wondering if Fix wants to stay and train in a new system when he has been in the OSU system his whole career. What if Gilman in the RTC coach?

Does he stay in Stillwater for the next cycle? He seems to bleed Okie St. Orange as much as anyone. If DT cleans house and doesn't retain any OSU guys, does Fix remain in Stillwater?

Hamiti rolling with DT for a year will be very interesting to follow. I won't be shocked to see Hamiti in the finals.

Can't guys still enter the Portal? Now that the deadline has passed, they just need a waiver from their prior University to make them eligible next year or did that change?

The time I was indicating was actually Lindland when it was ruled that USAW process was not fair and equitable to the athlete. I also understand your argument (3>4) and agree that it would be the likely outcome of any hypothetical challenge/lawsuit. Just because I don't find procedural arguments compelling when the parting setting the procedure wasn't forthcoming, doesn't mean that is how it will play out.

If you are ignoring all the money and resources that PSU has thrown at wrestling, I guess. PSU/NWLC have had a leg up on the field for a while, in part because Cael saw that possibility there and not at ISU.

I get your point. What is different for me is that 1) USAW didn't disclose that Brooks could be ineligible and 2) we know there will be a non-Olympic world championship and Zahid by being a returning medalist will be sitting out until the finals and de-facto #2 on the 92KG world team even if he loses. What is point of the wrestlebacks and determining the "team". Stipend, opportunity to compete oversees, etc. If Zahid is already getting those things by being on the 92KG rep/team member then he doesn't have a purpose to wrestle for the 3rd spot at 86KG. It's not like he just quit and said he didn't want to be a team member. He will be on the 92 KG team if he wants. For USAW to claim their policy is the #3 guy gets moved up no matter what, but also not disclose the known possibility that this could occur as it might of changed Zahid's decision when he otherwise had no benefit to challenge for 3rd is the stuff that lawsuits are made of. This isn't a guy got hurt so everyone move up situation, this is USAW not disclosing a possible outcome that could have impact on the team/rep. It wouldn't be the first time USAW procedure to be overturned in court.

If I am Zahid I try and sue. If I am Hidlay, I also try and sue. Now, both may lose but I would still try it. Hilday lost to Marsteller on the front side and was never going to make the team if Brooks was ineligible, but has a legitimate claim because he finished 3rd on the backside. Zahid may actually be our best rep, unless USAW has a rule that you forfeit any chance you have to be on the team if you MFF out, then it is worth a shot.

Not to mention, he would have to have some commitment that Gable will stay in Minnesota and train with him the entire year. Gable has been known to go back and forth, I wouldn't commit to Minnesota just because Gable said he was planning to return.