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Come on Plasi...if you were willing to do so you would see it...plenty of examples out there. Problem is you may not see them because you agree with them wholeheartedly versus having any sort of skepticism...which to me skepticism is a good thing when it comes to anything coming out of a politicians mouth or what I read online.

How did I know that this thread would somehow get turned into it being about Trump?? TDS is real folks! I for one would love to go even a day without hearing about freaking stupid Trump...why...because I don't like him.

My take on global warming/climate change/whatever it will be called next is based on these facts....is the climate different than say 100 years ago...absolutely. Do humans cause problems for the environment because of polution....absolutely. Should we always be looking for better and different ways to get our energy...absolutely. Should there be mass hysteria that the world will come to end because of man made global warming/climate change/whatever it will be called next...NO!! People who get caught up in the hysteria...including "scientists", that may or may not have a reason for their OPINIONS...seem to pick and choose what historical data they want to use to make said OPINIONS and for certain reasons. The earth is billions of years old; thus, even taking a thousand years of data (and not including known weather data from the history of the earth as we know it) will be in no means an indication of what the weather is or isn't doing because of human polution...again, I think we as humans need to not pollute the environment as much as possible...but it's just lazy biased science to not include the WHOLE data set when providing a scientific opinion on the matter. Bottom line is there are people on both sides of this issue that make this whole topic a farse and turn it into some sort of divisive way to drive people in opposite directions....like pretty much any issue out there. So we just have to sit back and watch people get mad at each other over another stupid issue, see people glue themselves to streets and ruin works of art, and listen to idiot politicians pander to whatever crisis they can to get votes, all the while watching halfway otherwise normal people get tricked into believing things they hear from these politicians or read on the internet because those people are to damn lazy to think for themselves.

Agreed! I have looked at things differently and modified my stance on stuff many times. Really hard thinking of specifics and who specifically changed my thinking...I can't remember what I had for breakfast...I am pretty sure GWN has made me think of a few times, even despite of some of our back and forths. Same with UB despite of his terrible take on Israel. Rasta has had some things too...

Another example of biased outrage, or lack there of, based on political affiliation

This is a tough one...hard to really have a strong opinion one way or the other as I have a strong opinion both ways...really torn.

Thanks for making my point....SMH What you describe as a "key difference" is what you, for some odd reason, WANT it to be. Guarantee 90% of the US doesn't care what people want to call themselves, who they sleep with, how they choose to dress, how they identify, etc...and if someone says that they would prefer a biological male NOT changing with or going to the bathroom with their biological female daughter, people like you start jumping up and down stomping their feet saying "SEE!! SEE! You hate the LGBTQ community!!" Which is utter BS! The issues isn't trying to withhold a "right" from one person over another, but rather we simply just need more unisex one stall bathrooms and changing areas. Why does this make people mad? How is this not "supporting the LGBTQ community"?? By the way, care to define your use of civil rights versus equality??

I know...just messin with ya! I don't know much about Mullin and his policies, but he definitely would kick O'Brien's butt...O'Brien reminds me of the sniffling little wimp who thinks they can say whatever they want behind a computer screen

Dude...I don't think I am the one who needs any self-awareness when it comes to the Israel/Humas crap...so go keep on keeping on with the pro-terrorist BS

Are they, or is it the narrative made up by the media and in people's heads?? If I asked you what the stark differences are, you'd probably regurgitate a bunch of over-exaggerated tropes the divisive media pours down peoples throat when in actuality people like you and I, who probably lean in opposite directions a bit, agree on quite a bit of stuff...if both sides were willing to truly listen and not infer things or accuse the other of saying or meaning something other than they really do.

I agree O'Brien is

Herein lies the problem...when people can't see past their OPINION about things and instantly go to "little common ground between the opposing sides"...such weak and lazy thinking. 85% of the US probably agrees with each other on the main topics...it is the semantics and/or the solutions that people argue about. And I hate the whole "sides" thing...one of the reasons I think we need to get rid of the bi-party so we get out of the thinking that we have to pick a "side". People have different opinions...that is a good thing...if we would just try and understand the common ground on things we probably would compromise a lot more!

I wonder if jross still "understands" UB's perspective, or has he finally saw what most have, he is a Humas sympathizer.

LOL....AI usually does have nice points when asked about a topic...

It was pretty funny watching him bang his gavel

Speaking of circus...did you seen the exchange between Sen Mullin and Teamster President O'Brian at some senate hearing? O'Brian posted some crap on social media essentially challenging Mullin to a fight and Mullin essentially said "let's go" at the hearing and stood up...LOL What a circus...however, by the looks of things I think Mullin would kick O'Brian's a$$ without breaking a sweat.

Super weird...I was replying to your comment right after mspart's post about the relaxed voting rule of double checking signatures in PA...but there must have been a delay as to when I wrote it and when it actually appeared on the thread.

Unless I am missing something, this is absolutely asinine!! Look forward to hearing how anyone could support this...and do so without bringing up Trump...

Many positive vibes being sent your way Rasta!!!

Agreed...doesn't make sense

LOL...you say you didn't do something and then turn around and do the very same thing again!! Have some freaking self reflection and awareness. And it kills me that you say "We have a difficult time checking our privilege." What a crock of crap. I'd love to know what "privilege" I need to check? And if your statement even made sense, so what?? What are people supposed to do, apologize for where they got to in life?? Is that somehow going to make someone who grew up in a different situation then them feel better?? Is that going to fix all the ill wills of our society, current and past?? Again, to me that is offensive that a person like you can preach about something you know absolutely nothing about and try and chastise people who do.

Seriously, this is such crazy talk. First off, you ASSume things about mspart and his family and try and downgrade what he and his kids have accomplished because somehow someone else was born, potentially, into different circumstances. You want to know what is funny, you listing off a bunch of things that his kids may have not had to deal with you pretty much summed up my upbringing, and it is very offensive that you use it as a way to discourage other people and to somehow make it an excuse for not working hard to better themselves, like I did as well as my brothers and sisters did. Do you think I sit here and use my upbringing as an excuse when someone else who worked harder than me has more than me?? NO!!! But you clearly do, and it is laughable. You try and preach to everyone how you are so inclusive and all-knowing of everything and everyone's situation that you actually offend the people you think you are speaking for. And then claim the people who did in fact work hard for where they got are somehow scared of people like me who may have come from different life circumstances taking what they earned...dude, you are a joke.

I don't think anyone meant to infer getting rid of the IRS totally, but as Ionel said, get rid of the bloat and waste, like there is in a lot of governement agencies. I would love to have full power to go into some of our governmental areas and get rid of all the waste so there is more money to spend on the things that are important to the american people.

At least jross "get's" UB's posts because I and others sure do not. Anyway, as for Muslims being "bad", I don't believe that...just as when other people try to paint people of other faith's as "bad". The religion isn't the problem...PEOPLE are the problem. When people are evil and want to rationalize their evil behavior, they TRY and use religion to do so. People want to bash the religion as being "bad" when in fact no religion is bad (well maybe some of the fringe crap like devil worshiping, etc.) it is the people that are bad. I also understand the scrutiny of the Muslim faith, and if I was a Muslim I would be absolutely appalled that some terrorist organizations use that as a backdrop for their evil behavior. Point for all this is I believe people are either good, or bad, or on that spectrum, regardless of their religion.

I think people forget about the critical thing of doctor's getting to know their patients and their history in order to better treat their patients. I'll take my luck with the private healthcare facilities. I am all for improving things and making things better, but to use other countries as examples of a great health care system is laughable. My question, what as American's are you willing to give up for a government healthcare system?? Roads? How about the over-bloated welfare system? The IRS? I like the private healthcare system, but if people want to have a public "free" heath care system in addition to the private, have at it. And how about those that support it and want to use it are the ones who pay for it?