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Flo and Intermat have it... 1 - Haines 2 - Franek 3 - Robb 4 - Teemer The Open Mat has it... 1 - Haines 2 - Franek 3 - Robb 4 - Mauller 5 - Andonian 6 - Teemer The Wrestling Report has it... 1 - Haines 2 - Franek 3 - Robb 4 - Andonian 5 - Lewan 6 - Mauller 7 - Teemer While I don't think Teemer should be above Andonian or Lewan, I also don't see why Mauller is above Teemer either. He went 4-2 at 157lbs the same season Teemer took 6th. What has he done at 157 to be ranked above the aforementioned gents? Rankings don't matter, but here is what I would have... 1 - Haines 2 - Franek 3 - Robb 4 - Andonian 5 - Lewan 6 - Teemer 7 - Mauller

This doesn't really do it justice... some of these weights are legitimately seeded through 18...

125 lbs 1. Matt Ramos, Purdue 2. Michael DeAugustino, Michigan 3. Brett Ungar, Cornell 4. Caleb Smith, Nebraska 5. Jore Volk, Wyoming 6. Brandon Kaylor, Oregon State 7. Tanner Jordan, South Dakota State 8. Kysen Terukina, Iowa State 133 lbs 1. Daton Fix, Oklahoma State 2. Kai Orine, NC State 3. Evan Frost, Iowa State 4. Julian Chlebove, Arizona State 5. Angelo Rini, Columbia 6. Brendan Ferretti, Navy 7. Dom Zaccone, Campbell 8. Nic Bouzakis, Ohio State 141 lbs 1. Lachlan McNeil, North Carolina 2. Brock Hardy, Nebraska 3. Jesse Mendez, Ohio State 4. Ryan Jack, NC State 5. Cael Happel, Northern Iowa 6. Kal Miller, Maryland 7. Vince Cornella, Cornell 8. Josh Koderhandt, Navy 149 lbs 1. Ridge Lovett, Nebraska 2. Kyle Parco, Arizona State 3. Caleb Henson, Virginia Tech 4. Dylan D'Emilio, Ohio State 5. Jackson Arrington, NC State 6. Chance Lamer, Cal Poly 7. Ethen Miller, Maryland 8. Quinn Kinner, Rider 157 lbs 1. Peyton Robb, Nebraska 2. Jacori Teemer, Arizona State 3. Bryce Andonian, Virginia Tech 4. Will Lewan, Michigan 5. Ed Scott, NC State 6. Daniel Cardenas, Stanford 7. Trevor Chumbley, Northwestern 8. Cael Swensen, South Dakota State 165 lbs 1. David Carr, Iowa State 2. Cameron Amine, Michigan 3. Izzak Olejnik, Oklahoma State 4. Julian Ramirez, Cornell 5. Matthew Olguin, Oregon State 6. Antrell Taylor, Nebraska 7. Maxx Mayfield, Northwestern 8. Bryce Hepner, Ohio State 174 lbs 1. Shane Griffith, Michigan 2. Carson Kharchla, Ohio State 3. Cade DeVos, South Dakota State 4. Travis Wittlake, Oregon State 5. Adam Kemp, Cal Poly 6. MJ Gaitan, Iowa State 7. Austin Murphy, Campbell 8. Alex Faison, NC State 184 lbs 1. Parker Keckeisen, Northern Iowa 2. Trey Munoz, Oregon State 3. Chris Foca, Cornell 4. Dustin Plott, Oklahoma State 5. Lenny Pinto, Nebraska 6. Gavin Hoffman, Ohio State 7. Will Feldkamp, Iowa State 8. Gavin Kane, North Carolina 197 lbs 1. Tanner Sloan, South Dakota State 2. Trent Hidlay, NC State 3. Jacob Cardenas, Cornell 4. Luke Surber, Oklahoma State 5. Jaxon Smith, Maryland 6. Silas Allred, Nebraska 7. Nick Stemmet, Stanford 8. Luke Geog, Ohio State 285 lbs 1. Wyatt Hendrickson, Air Force 2. Lucas Davison, Michigan 3. Yonger Bastida, Iowa State 4. Tyrell Gordon, Northern Iowa 5. Grady Griess, Navy 6. Owen Trephan, NC State 7. Taye Ghadiali, Campbell 8. Konner Doucet, Oklahoma State Projected Team Placements & Scores 1 - Nebraska: 98.5 2 - Michigan: 83.5 3 - NC State: 81 4 - Iowa State: 75.5 5 - Ohio State: 73.5 6 - Oklahoma State: 70 7 - Cornell: 62.5 8 - Oregon State: 53 9 - Northern Iowa: 48.5 10 - Arizona State: 46

Per Flo... a few surprises and some not. https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/11545893-2023-cliff-keen-las-vegas-invitational-pre-seeds

He was at the Open shortly after his title. He was basically on his knees the whole time against the actual Italian Stallion Ben Honis. Much can be implied there.

Does Focus go HWT or 197? Glazier is a better option than Hill.

Cook is on his last year of eligibility now... would make sense.

Just major overcompensation. They have four people cut three weight classes then have another guy jump six (he wrestled 285 after his redshirt season). Even Stevens. Maths.

Am I reading this correctly? Was Luke Surber expected to be a 165lber? https://www.flowrestling.org/rankings/6246635-2020-commitment-list-ncaa-di/28544-2020-di-commitment-list

I am curious how. I know on Flo in the past they have talked about wins holding more weight than losses. I get that, okay. Teemer legitimately has zero wins since his loss to Lewan two NCAAs ago. Lewan has many wins since then. It is almost as if Andonian, Scott, and Lewan were penalized for trading wins and losses last year, despite beating most everyone else too. I know Scott lost to Blaze this year, but even before then Teemer was ranked higher.

Right, but both links posted were not to the proper link. No worries, I did find it - see my edited post.

What? Where did he post this? Edit: Found it...

Minnow embarrasses himself enough. Please don't tie him in an official manner to those two programs. They are better than him in every single way imaginable.

I hope it's the over, honestly. Iowa already gets shit on for even speaking of the Focus family. Let them play the heel and everyone else, aside for Penn State, will be playing for 3rd.

I am curious how Jacori Teemer can be ranked ahead of Will Lewan in any rankings at all. His last completed match was a loss to him. Lewan has since proven to be an all-american whereas Teemer's last actual match he ended up defaulting out of - which counts as a loss now right?

I think more the latter. Refs don't like overturning their own calls, even if the bias was clearly evident throughout the dual as a whole.

If we are going off the way it should be gone off of - with the victors writing the books, then it was a flop that Sta(l)rocci 100% anticipated and stuck him with. I believe Sta(l)rocci even eluded to him anticipating that.

Most are probably there because of him and Nurmagomedov rolling back when he (Saldate) was in High School. It went something like this... - Nurmagomedov dominates Saldate - Nurmagomedov calls Cormier fat a bunch of times - Nurmagomedov locks his hands - Nurmagomedov throws him while he is in a guillotine. - Cormier begs Nurmagomedov to be nice. - Saldate cries a little. - Nurmagomedov chokes him out - RNC. - Cormier cries a little. - Saldate cries a lot. - Nurmagomedov punches him in the temple 50 times. - Saldate stops crying. - Nurmagomedov chokes him out - RNC. - Saldate starts making out with the mat. - More dome punches from Nurmagomedov. - Nurmagomedov helps Saldate up. - Nurmagomedov coddles a weeping Saldate. - Nurmagomedov and Saldate kiss and make up, share a beer. - Nurmagomedov talks a lot of crap to Cormier about beating up a teenager. All of it is here:

Now do Twatter.

They were absolutely not on the same level. They were separated by more than one tier at that point. Labriola didn't have a fart's chance in a shit storm there - my opinion then and now.

Username is already taken. I was going to actually make it and it won't let me because it already exists.

I think the 141 non-challenge might have been just as big. Iowa's 141lber is the title favorite. You beat him, while at home, and the wind gets sucked out of Iowa earlier. It has more potential changes to the dual than anything. Does Swiderski come out more aggressive early and build an earlier lead? Pushing for a Major? Maybe. After that Major does Chittum ride the momentum and get that takedown two seconds earlier? Maybe. Does Carr tech Caliendo? Yes. Does Gaitan not give up that early lead and pull away late for a wide Decision, or dare I say Major? Maybe. Does Feldkamp come out with a beach ball sized set of juevs and pull the trigger on one or two of those double overs? Yes. Do they land? No clue. Does Broderson actually try? Probably not. You're talking that three point swing could have been much more because of it being Iowa State and being home-mat advantage. That said, while 141 could have been a much more larger point swing, just swinging 174 alone wins them the dual. It doesn't really sway momentum. It may just also give Batista a Tech, because Hill is looking for a Pin there late and gives up a couple/few bad/easy shots. So 18-14 Iowa becomes 18-15 Iowa State. I could see it either way, but I definitely think it is those two that were the worst.

There books? What are those?

I either saw it here or on Twatter. I don't recall which one. I remember whoever said it doesn't often play with the honeypot, so I trusted it.

Surprised so many folks forget about all of that. That shit was bonkers.