Boring

The way Fish wrestles nearly anything is possible, good or bad.

Yeah, I think he was a 2 timer in his own right, 4th and 7th as I recall.

Same. The program had been declining for years, but that was a body blow. I think the final nail in the coffin was when Smith gave an interview and admitted he "had no idea why he hung around after his last team title". That interview was in 2023, and combined with years of declining results made OSU realize it was time to go coach shopping,

"Low functioning". BWAHAHAHAHAHA, I'm still laughing over that one.

I bet that NU fan loved every second of it.

LOL, you think I'd bet on Danny Braunagel? I just turned 60 and I'm about 80% certain I could step on the mat and pull Danny apart like a wishbone. The point is that Haines isn't as sharp as he should be at this point in the season. On the other hand the kid Haines beat did beat a top 25 guy recently.

If I was Cael I'd be worried about Haines not being able to get bonus points on a guy Danny Braunagel teched. So that, plus Kasak getting hurt and Davis gives Cael some things to worry about.

Looked like they banged heads to me.

Kasak was leading 1-0 at the time of the injury default. Looks like they banged heads. Maybe they should make Kasak wear a leather football helmet type headgear like Shapiro did last year?

I'll move on at the 50 year anniversary of that screwjob, which will be next January.

The problem was Joe should've never let himself get fat and go from 157 to 174 in the first place. That was a lack of discipline. So Joe's Sr year he went down to 165 from 174 at the last minute, had very few matches under his belt, and somehow beat Rogers in the ranking match. If I'd been the coach I wouldn't have allowed him to rank at 165 because he'd be handicapped at NCAAs due to RPI issues, unless he was vastly superior as an option. Rogers was 17-2, had won a tournament, and would've probably been a top 8 seed at NCAAs.

Lower. Maybe 6-8th.

Are you suggesting Cael doesn't have an eye for wrestling talent?

He never should've gotten the chance. He moved up a weight because of a lack of discipline and had few matches under his belt. Starting him over Rogers hurt the team.

How is Manville a nice get? He's 0-1 this year and got pinned by an ISU backup??

Williams was nothing special.

It reminds me of the Joe Smith debacle when John started his boy, who got seeded #33 at NCAAs due to a lack of matches, when he should've just stuck with the 2 time AA that had wrestled all year.

Witcraft got smoked by Bailey. I think OSU should run with Cael Hughes, not Witcraft.

What, you think THAT is a story about moaning on the mat? I'm going on a rant. This was way back when I was 11. I was wrestling in the finals of an open tournament against one my teammates. My teammate had beaten me 4-2 in a ranking match a couple weeks before and I was now a scrub at 97 pounds. At the tournament I was seeded 4th and my teammate (Pat) was seeded 2nd, and the #1 seed was a dude who was unbeaten and who pinned my teammate the week before. I hammered my first couple opponents and was in the semifinals against the unbeaten kid. I pinned him in the 2nd period after getting a good lead, which shocked everybody. I was a pretty good wrestler but I had a few losses on my record. Anyway, I wrestled Pat in the finals. About halfway through the first period I got in deep on a double leg, picked him up completely and not so gently deposited him on the mat. Not a slam, but not a gentle deposit. I took him down straight to his back and flattened his shoulder blades to the mat. He started bawling, not just crying but loudly bawling, and the referee immediately stopped the match. Everybody and their mother came out onto the mat to make sure Pat was okay. They gently brushed the tears from his cheeks, and the referee restarted the match. I didn't get a takedown. I didn't even get a 3 point nearfall. I got screwed out of at least 5 points. After they'd refreshed Pat and let him get his composure the ref RESTARTED the match from that point in the first period 0-0 in the neutral position. It was as if the 10 seconds where I took Pat to his back no longer existed. Pat "won" the rest of the match, 4-3. I think that was the first time I got screwed by refs, but it certainly wasn't the last.

Buttons pop off. Singlets work fine. The guys with little dicks just need to wear cups to hide their shame, as wrestling tradition dicktates!

He looks like he's on his way to a gay disco.

Yup, that's the guy. Watching him was like watching grass grow.

Zain Oliver, a man created in the lab with DNA from Zain Retherford and Jordan Oliver.

I remember Michigan had a stallmaster type NC years ago. Ugh, I hate watching those dudes .

Kennedy will probably AA. He went R16, R12 in his previous 2 NCAAs.