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It's in 26 minutes.

I was wondering the same thing. Depending on how the rest of the year goes, going into the offseason knowing you can work towards truly filling in at 197 would be a lot more appealing than preparing to suck down to 184. And then what the Mirasola's think about that..

Barr with the win over Little 4-1 OT

I agree, but if you can get an escape in less than a minute, you basically give yourself 3 minutes to get a takedown and if you can't, you go to rideouts.. if you choose neutral, you have to score a takedown in 2 minutes against someone who knows they just need to defend to win. With Bailey it's been more his lack of urgency once taking neutral against both Byrd and Davis. He never really put a sprint on against either of them. A couple of attacks from space, but that's about it.

just search rokfin. It's streaming under their account.

I had a tab with the stream open while on youtube hoping that if it went back on rokfin that I'd maintain access for already having it running, but then I tried to open up Mat 2 and can't get through to the website.

We'll see what happens once everyone hops back over to the rokfin stream.

I admittedly have only watched Nasir Bailey wrestle twice, the All-Star and this match.. Both times he went into the third 0-1 and chose neutral and lost, and I don't remember him being close to a score against Bird, and he wasn't against Davis today.. Obviously he took 4th last year as a Frosh and has a lot of big wins, and I know he's great with tilts.. Is this how he always wrestles? In the two matches mentioned, he hasn't seemed interested in scoring from neutral in the first period, yet chooses neutral in the third rather than going down. Just curious to hear some thoughts.

I had no issues yesterday either. But couldn't watch a thing this morning.

I don't think they'll have a choice. If the stream couldn't handle viewership for the first round, there's no way they can handle PSU vs MIZZ.

3, 3, 3, 2nd right? He lost to Donahue after majoring him at B12s if IIRC.

If the traffic is this bad now, that really makes me doubt we'll be seeing Haines and KOT.

That's what I have going on. It's pretty annoying considering I subscribed yesterday just for this weekend..

I have KOT. But I don't feel confident. Likewise. Sidenote if anyone is reading this and watching on rokfin, is anyone else having issues?

Not sure if you're watching or not, but the announcer in their last match mentioned that Paniro actually weighed in light for 157 and is making his way down to 149 but bumping up.

Chittum over Paddy Gallagher 10-8

Kharchla is officially on the mat. That's good to see.

I never heard any news on this. What happened with Perry?

Matt McDonough in 2010 won his first title in a bracket with two returning champs (Escobedo and Nickerson). He didn't have to wrestle either of them, however. And it's also worth noting that I believe both Angel and Troy were wrestling with one shoulder each. OP said "outplace" two former national champs.

Another thought related to stalling.. With the prevalence of wrestlers defending leg attacks looking to get a hand/foot off of the wrestling mat for a reset, what if that was dinged an automatic stall call. That way, if you float to the edge and are hit in a single, you must defend while standing "in-bounds" or take the stall call. This would create more continuous action and would more than likely greatly change edge tactics as they currently stand. Instead of stepping off the mat being rewarded, it would have a ramification.

I was just rewatching some recent NCAA finals, and obviously it's nothing new, but when did we decide that blatant stalling is acceptable as long as they don't do it for more than 5 seconds? This is the most obvious in rideout scenarios where a wrestler will drop to a leg, wait for the referee to count to 4, climb up, and then once bottom wrestler starts working up again, drop back down for an additional 4 count. It seems so blatantly obvious that the top guy is not only not looking to turn, but is not even putting on an actual ride, but just clinging to an ankle. If nothing else, the most simple answer seems to be to not have a verbal count that informs the stalling wrestler how much longer they have before the call comes, but to stay silent and at least let an internal clock count for the top wrestler. Referees don't count out loud when the bottom wrestler gets to their feet and the top wrestler needs to return them.. why do referees treat the drop down differently? There are plenty of stalling scenarios I have gripes with, but the fact that in certain situations, the stalling wrestler is given a "countdown warning" but in many others they are not, seems very arbitrary. Before warning a top wrestler that is riding parallel, or a bottom wrestler that isn't improving their position, why don't they get a countdown before stalling is granted? This applies to so many scenarios.. Maybe it's too much for one thread, but it's similar to how a wrestler can hold position without taking a shot for the first three minutes of a match and end the first 0-0 without a warning, but if a wrestler has the lead with 30 seconds to go and holds position, they can get dinged twice for stalling because the desperate wrestler is shooting/moving forward (ala Carter Young vs McDougald last week). I would love to hear other's thoughts on these scenarios and if/how they could be improved. PS: as a new member, I am happy to have a place to discuss wrestling. I have long time friends that I wrestled with in high school, but they were never "fans" of the sport. It's fun to hear the thoughts and share thoughts with others who have such a love for the sport.

Is there a Ramos that I'm unaware of? I don't think a former national runner-up really fits this category..

I would not be gobsmacked if either Wyatt or Greg beat Gable at the tournament. I certainly wouldn't predict it, but I would be less gobsmacked than when Caldwell beat Metcalf. Hot take.

I forget who was in an interview recently but they said something about how they practice less at PSU than a lot of schools, and they all talk about how they just have fun wrestling. If you think DT is in there grinding these guys early and is going to burn them out by march, that would go against everything he learned from his mentor/coach.

Rudis has his birthday as 1/5/2007. I hope you don't lose your mind at my mentioning of his age again. But this furthers the cause that he will a year older than most when he graduates, but that's not that odd, and not even remotely odd in the wrestling world.. especially when talking about kids that are undersized for high school when they are in junior high.