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I think you are 100% correct. I know personally, there were guys I wrestled multiple times, and whether I knew I was better or not, some guys you just know it's not going to be a fun wrestling match. I assume everyone going into a match with Mesenbrink is thinking "this spaz is just going to slap me silly and take 1000 shots in the next handful of minutes." Wrestling against Mitchell looks like a terrible time, win or lose.

@Boring Still waiting for your response.

Does anyone know why Kellen Wolbert is projected to be a 157 in college, but is wrestling at 61kg in this tournament? I get that he wrestled at 144 during the regular season, but it seems like he may be a bit smaller. Just curious.

The U.S. Open in golf is an "open" because anyone can play if they make it through a qualifier. Open means that anyone can qualify to compete, not necessarily that literally anyone can compete in the singular event. I do think creating a qualification system, especially for u17/u20 could be difficult, but some of these brackets are a little absurd.

Dake and I are the same age. I've been saying it for the last handful of years that I can't believe guys like him, Taylor, and Burroughs could still maintain the grind that it takes to be near the top of the world after your body has physically peaked. How many 34 year old wrestlers are winning world titles from any country? Dake also just isn't an 86kg wrestler.. at least right now.

I have mixed feelings. You could make the same argument about a pin in collegiate. I think of the biggest one being Jenkins pin over Taylor in the NCAA finals. I wanted to see the match play out, but in our sport there are ways to end a match early. Is getting caught in a lace or trapped arm gut that much different than a cradle? I feel like I want more wrestling in both scenarios. That being said, the death sentence that is often signed by getting laced or trap armed is underwhelming. Edit: Typo

That actually makes your previous post a lot funnier. I have no idea what goes into the seeding in these tournaments though, so your guess is as good as mine.

You know William Denny is ranked #2 at 165 right? He's very good and just got tech'd by D.

I'd assume that would be similar to DeShazer and they have him as FF for his two matches he didn't wrestle today. The mystery continues..

Tough showing for Endene this weekend. Lost to Laird (who is tough) and Lanham (who I have never heard of). I'm also a little curious why he was at 97kg rather than 92kg. He looked far from big.

I'm waiting for an answer on this as well.

You could always, ya know, just say this I was wrong.. you don't have to call me functionally illiterate.. that's pretty mean, man. When you say "I would be stunned if OU had a single guy make the r12 next year," but in the next breath admit that you can't name five of the guys who are likely to start for them, it really cuts into the credibility of your previous statement. The brighter spots in their line-up next year: 125: Beric Jordan (#21 big boarder in 2024) 133: Tyler Wells (R12, R16) 141: Alex Braun (#20 big boarder in 2024) 149: Jack Gioffre (R16) 157: Peyton Keller (AA - 5th in 2024) 184: Deanthony Parker (R12) I'll just leave that there. I think you may be stunned next March.

Classic. Make a prediction about a team whose roster you are completely unaware of. They have several quality recruits that will serve as a good foundation to build on. They've been down for the past 15 years, but it can change in hurry once the culture and foundation is built under a new coaching staff. It's actually fun to be optimistic about a regime rather than call them a failure before getting an actual start. I'd recommend trying it.

I'll bet they do. Can you even name 5 likely starters on the roster next year?

If Brian Owen's career wasn't derailed with a spinal fusion his sophomore year of high school.. he was something. I'm interested in how the years worked out that you wrestle both Brian Owen and Tyler Caldwell though. What ages?

I assume this will definitely go as an underrated comment.

I am saddened that his birth year is still 6 years before I graduated from high school.. it's all relative I suppose.

I think they weight classes that guys graduated wrestling is very different than where they can be effective coaches. Likely, most guys who graduate as 141 pounders spent almost their entire life as very lightweight guys until their bodies fully developed and filled out. Someone of Kennedy's caliber undoubtedly was a very successful wrestler when he weighed less than 130 pounds. You don't have to be a lifer 57kg guy to coach guys wrestling that weight.

So guys don't leave Iowa.. unless they're not going to be the starter.. but they don't count.

He's not my pick right now, but I wouldn't be that surprised to see him pull out a win against either. Especially in the era where a wrestler can score a takedown in the first, and then give up 3 stall calls throughout the rest of the match and win 4-3.

Everyone can have their thoughts on Flo and CP but one thing is certain.. CP is very careful not to share information that he has before the party(s) involved want that information shared, or the information is confirmed. The anti-Minnow approach. His reaction was interesting though where it sounded to me like there is more to the situation than his wife wanted to move back home. Having listened to CP as much as I have, his reaction to the question sounded like there is some drama behind this move and Flo doesn't want to get involved or be a catalyst by fanning the flame. On a side note, this off-season drama has been wild and we're only a few weeks removed from NCAAs. Who'd have thought we'd have so much to talk about?

I just went back to Swiderski's wrestlestat for the 2023-2024 season.. I did not realize how consistent he was. I thought he had a few more random losses in there. He really had a great season and I'd view him as an immediate title threat this season if he's fully healthy.

I think others have well spelled out my point by now. Also, to suggest I don't know much about wrestling to then go on and suggest that the backup to Witcraft (who didn't qualify for NCAAs) would absolutely smoke Figs at 133 is pretty ironic.. it's commonly understood that Hughes wasn't truly a 133 pound this year, and won't attempt to compete there again next season.

I hope I was supposed to read this in a 90s Adam Sandler voice. I'm really curious to see what Hughes looks like both healthy and at a more natural weight. However, the results this year didn't support that he's a lateral move, let alone upgrade from Jamison.

Respectfully.. not on this thread please.