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Good find! Portella is a true freshman right? If so, he has used his 5 matches to preserve his redshirt. I wonder what they do there if Eichens doesn't go until second semester. Would be a waste to get a half season to burn your redshirt.

haha... not offended at all...rarely am.....and yes, knowing you, I was expecting a way more entertaining answer. I am disappointed. Get it together man.

So what is the difference between saying "It's coinflip as to who will win" and "I don't necessarily consider it a toss-up." ? Aren't coin flip and toss up the same thing?

Very logical

Our training methods are unique and reminiscent of Rocky IV.

I believe we started as OSUW ... then it morphed to wOSU in the realm of tOSU.... personally I prefer OSUW... should Ok State be scOSU?

True! I really wish wOSU would start up a program. They have some tough ladies at the RTC and Nate Engel is a proven coach.

Tom avoided questions by being very adamant to ask the right questions to the right people. Has Tom even answered the questions about the things he had/has control over? I have not seen his response as to why he allowed athletes to sign off on a waiver that they had been trained/educated on betting when they did not attend. Has he addressed this?

I agree - it will be a good match. It's not so much the belief that Arnold will be "in the match" as it is that WIttlake is washed up and Arnold is a lock.

You are correct, he is now healthy and at his correct weight. Who was the last college AA that Arnold beat? Sell me on Arnold being an AA this year.

That's an expensive hotdog and soda ....

Shock the Hawk!

I thought Ech looked big for 149... he will be the biggest 141 in the country.

12 years ago - probably time to give that one up. If it happens this season, then revisit. Being drilled into the program does not mean each wrestler will follow it - it means the program did their due diligence. Did Iowa drill it into their program to follow the laws/rules/guidelines of betting? If you are allowed to skip the meeting and sign off on it, I think that's a good indication.

Ahhhhh.... now it makes sense. It would stand to reason that an announcement would be made about that soon.

I don't know what he is doing Tuesday, but the schedule says Sunday at Missouri. Not sure why there would be a cancellation of the match??? Haven't heard anything on the injuries, but my guess is that it's too early to tell. My guess was concussion based on the default after 10 minutes in concussion protocol. The elbow injury looked bad. I am guessing they both miss, but I have not heard or read anything official. We may not know anything until they step on the mat Sunday.

I think they are at Missouri on Sunday... https://thesundevils.com/sports/wrestling/schedule/2023-24

He was 3rd and 1st at 165 his senior year in 1997 - not sure about junior year. The talent in this tournament was crazy. https://washingtonwrestlingreport.net/wp-content/uploads/1997/97jrnat.htm

LOL .... nah...I am going to say that there is another reason @Warm Up Champ posted that. As a side note, he is spot on - very tough tournament back in the day.

What year?

Agreed..... I started coaching when Cael was in middle school (1992-93 ish). No internet, not as many tournaments as we have now, so the whole idea of "generational talent" was not as prevalent as it is now because you just didn't have the media coverage or the opportunities that there are now. We relied a lot on Wrestling USA magazine and stuff HS coaches would get in the mail to see results, articles, rankings, etc. From my old perspective, I would say Cael was a national level talent for sure, but at that time I would not have said generational as we know it now.

That would be the smart thing to do.... but you know. Shock the Hawk

To be fair to the title of this thread, I haven't lost to anyone or anywhere since 1990. You have my permission to make a thread.

Concussion most likely for Teemer since he did not clear in 10 minutes for protocol....Vasquez looked like a dislocated elbow...that's what announcers said and that's what it looked like and sounded like from the yelling. Im guessing he got an MRI for the damage. He has had terrible luck with injuries. I would be surprised if either wrestled this weekend. I guess if they know it's more serious and he's out for the season they can pull Ysa in at 141 or see if Ramos can make 141. I'm guessing Killic at 157?