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Munoz not taking another year.... going to battle the rest of the season.

@Husker_Du Big board has 6 OK State kids in the top 20...followed by PSU with 3, Virginia Tech with 3, NC State 2, Missouri 2, Cornell 2, Iowa 2 and Melvin still out there. It still comes back to development... PSU gets guys they want and they develop and get better every season. How many times have people posted "If this X happens then they could beat PSU" then PSU actually beats everyone by more. DT showing early he can develop guys - a lot of improvement this season.

Not a fan of the two piece from day 1. If you have been on this board for a long time, you might remember there were a lot of people who wanted the two piece and how it was such a great thing for kids who were embarrassed to wear the singlet. We needed to make kids more comfortable so more kids were going to wrestle. Singlet guys for the win. As a side note, if you want to see some fun stuff, give Nate Engel a follow... his 3 boys wear their Oregon State singlets and head gear everywhere...literally - haha.

No matter what you think of his online and media presence, I will tell you the dude is a great guy personally. I spent time with him and he was a class act. Great supporter of college wrestling.

I bet Bo can't crush an apple in his hand.... if he can we may call is the Bodge.

Losing Buchanan was a real gut punch... I am surprised they have been able to keep Volk. Don't tell Bob about him.

Seems like just last year he was proclaimed to be a national champ this year.....

I've got the right guy....

You rang?

You are moving the goal posts....your initial post states: "My approach to a wrestling program is that they are the least costly programs you can have. All you need is a room, a mat, and a coach who can drive a car and push a mop. Many very successful programs have that and no more. That is half a professor's salary." I ask again, in your own words and your own "approach to a wrestling program", what "very successful programs have a room, mat, a coach who can drive a car and push a mop and no more" and pay their head coach "half a professors salary." If you want to talk top end salaries of professors that are in admin, that's a different story. The average salary of professors at large schools are in that 125-150 range. BTW - Your reference to Moore's salary is when he was an assistant not head coach from, as you said, 8 years ago. Ben Stehura was the head coach.

What very successful programs have nothing but a room, mat, a coach who can drive a car and push a mop and no more? The average professor salary is in the 140k range at large universities (Iowa for example)... You can't get a head wrestling coach at a very successful program for 70k..... even assistants make more than that. Wrestling is one of the least costly programs due to the number of traveling participants, but there are many costs that go into a program.

That's not necessarily inaccurate.... the announcement was made May 14, 2008 after his freshman year had concluded and was effective immediately.

That's not what they are saying... "CSU made the difficult decision to discontinue these sport programs at the conclusion of their respective seasons this academic year as part of a strategic effort, which began in 2023, to address budgetary shortfalls across the University. Honest questions - How do you define "Manage up", why do you say that coaches regularly do a bad job ast it and why would you choose Gable, Cael, Ayers and Brands to teach this class?

The Pac-12 only gets the champion as an automatic qualifier this year due to being only 4 teams. All the rest go into the at-large selections.... so they only get 10. At the end of the day they will have 3 at 197 in the NCAAs. Lots of wrestling left for Pac12 wrestlers to earn an at large.

In 2015 when the program was dropped, it was brought back because students voted to increase their student fees to keep the sport: "After CSU announced earlier this year it planned to eliminate wrestling, students voted to increase their fees so the Vikings' wrestling program could remain The vote will add about $30 a year to the bill of a full-time student this year, before increasing to $90 in another year. Students taking fewer than 9 credit hours won't have to pay the increase, just the previous fee." The question is when did the school decide to absorb these increases for wrestling into their general budget or athletic budget, forcing the school to now drop? Was there ever a vote to take the fees back out of student fees that were raised for wrestling? I don't know what kind of followups or changes that were made through the years, but after reading a couple of CSU fan posts on social media (which may or may not be accurate), it seems there is missing information. https://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/2015/07/cleveland_state_student_fees_c_1.html https://www.cleveland.com/sports/college/2015/04/cleveland_state_wrestling_team_1.html

Redshirting

Yeah me too... he finished the season pretty strong last year. I expected top 12ish this year. Vasquez getting beat by EJ Parco was very surprising.... Adisson had a good win over Monteiro. I wonder who they go with down the stretch. Looks like split time with Valencia.

Ferrari will have Munoz #10, Little #5, Hopkins #31 to round out the season then Munoz and/or Little at Pac 12. We will see where he stands after these matches, but he certainly will not be battle tested like the others heading to the NCAA. Figs hasn't wrestled real great coming off injury, but he did the same last year. He lost to Spratley, Provo and Renteria in February...then went on a 10 match win streak to win it. I wouldn't pick him to win it right now, but I also wouldn't be surprised at the same time.

ASU also wrestled Stanford Sunday.... No. 17 Stanford 24, Arizona State 18 125: #2 Richard Figueroa (ASU) won by forfeit 133: #8 Tyler Knox (STAN) maj. dec. #23 Julian Chlebove (ASU), 8-0 141: #22 Jason Miranda (STAN) tech. fall Daniel Miranda (ASU), 16-0 (6:28) 149: EJ Parco (STAN) dec. #18 Jesse Vasquez (ASU), 4-2 157: #29 Grigor Cholakyan (STAN) maj. dec. Michael Kilic (ASU), 13-3 165: #15 Nicco Ruiz (ASU) tech. fall Zach Hanson (ASU), 19-4 (6:16) 174: #4 Lorenzo Norman (STAN) tech. fall Javani Majoor (ASU), 17-2 (6:08) 184: Shay Addison (ASU) dec. Tye Monteiro (STAN), 10-7 197: #24 Nick Stemmet (STAN) dec. Jacobe Meissner (ASU), 2-0 285: #5 Cohlton Schultz (ASU) maj. dec. Peter Ming (STAN), 14-3

First coaches ranking is out... must have 8 D1 matches at the weight and 1 in the last 30 days... so some guys are not included because of that reason. The one that matters is the last one.

Read that it was personal reasons and that he left on good terms and that that the "door is open" to return.

Yeah - it is at least a start. I was glad they made it out of club status. Several schools have club teams like WSU, Eastern Washington and I think a few others. Washington produces some pretty tough kids.

I think he committed to 4 and enrolled at 2 - UPenn, Illinois, Oklahoma State, Iowa State

Negative Evergeen State College is NAIA ( Initially I stated JC) - They wrestle in the Cascade Conference - wrestled last season in the CCC championships, have wrestled a full schedule this season and scheduled for CCC championships again. Big Bend Community College - Just went 4-4 at the NJCAA national duals - This is their first year as full members of the NJCAA