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Yep... you can be certain there will be tough conversations with kids that will not be back on the team in place of higher level kids. In fact...some have and are taking place.

This is based on last years roster, but yeah, if you are the last guy. I think we are going to see a lot of names pop up on rosters of new/newer programs.

I am 99;9% sure that coaches do not want to set up a completely different club team for practices that are your 31-40 guys on the depth chart. The RTC is probably where guys will "hide" for a year since coaches are already managing that program. I agree that there will be a lot to work out with this settlement. At what length in terms of expense, time and energy are D1 coaches going to go for there #31- #40 guys? Teams were already getting their rosters down this spring and summer because of that very reason.

List of non-power 5 schools - they can opt in to the revenue sharing but then have to offer the 30 scholarships and cap their roster size to 30 School 2023-24 Roster Conference Army 53 EIWA Navy 49 EIWA Sacred Heart 49 EIWA Lehigh 45 EIWA Kent State 44 MAC Bellarmine 43 SOCON Clarion 40 MAC Cornell 38 Ivy League Penn 38 Ivy League Air Force 37 Big 12 Northern Illinois 37 MAC Rider 37 MAC VMI 37 SOCON Columbia 36 Ivy League Northern Colorado 36 Big 12 Ohio 36 MAC South Dakota State 36 Big 12 Appalachian State 35 SOCON Cleveland State 35 MAC Drexel 35 EIWA California Baptist 34 Big 12 Lock Haven 34 MAC North Dakota State 34 Big 12 Harvard 33 Ivy League Little Rock 33 Pac 12 Long Island 33 EIWA Wyoming 33 Big 12 Binghamton 32 EIWA Bucknell 32 EIWA Buffalo 32 MAC Franklin & Marshall 32 EIWA Gardner-Webb 32 SOCON George Mason 32 MAC Cal Poly 31 Pac 12 Edinboro 31 MAC Northern Iowa 31 Big 12 Chattanooga 30 SOCON CSU Bakersfield 30 Pac 12 SIUE 30 MAC Campbell 29 SOCON Central Michigan 29 MAC Princeton 29 Ivy League The Citadel 29 SOCON Davidson 28 SOCON Hofstra 28 EIWA Mercyhurst 28 Morgan State 28 American 27 EIWA Utah Valley 26 Big 12 Bloomsburg 23 MAC Brown 23 Ivy League Presbyterian 21 SOCON

Power 5 Teams over 30 last year... School 2023-24 Roster Conference Oregon State 43 Pac 12 Iowa State 41 Big 12 Iowa 40 Big 10 Michigan State 39 Big 10 Missouri 38 SEC/Big 12 Oklahoma State 38 Big 12 Arizona State 37 Big 12 Michigan 37 Big 10 Penn State 37 Big 10 West Virginia 37 Big 12 Nebraska 35 Big 10 Oklahoma 35 SEC/Big 12 Ohio State 34 Big 10 Virginia Tech 34 ACC Virginia 33 ACC Indiana 32 Big 10 Maryland 32 Big 10 North Carolina 32 ACC Pittsburgh 32 ACC NC State 31 ACC Purdue 31 Big 10 So all in all, based on last years rosters, this will affect 118 wrestlers total. There are only 7 teams at 30 or below. I can tell you that, some of those kids have already found homes that have not been reported.

Good point - Flo did an article outlining this along with roster sizes... https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/12753476-unlimited-scholarships-roster-caps-more-in-ncaa-vs-house-settlement

Or if your the 4th guy in a weight, reach out to a low-mid level team to see what your opportunities are there. If you are already at a low-mid range team, then go D2 or NAIA. A lot of people are worried about the 31-40 guys on the roster...but they can just as easily go to a school where they will get more mat time. You don't have to be stuck on D1 or nothing.

I have heard of some teams that actually do have try outs for roster spots...but they are typically vying for those last spots on the roster, which are typically the 35-40th spots. The way I understand it, is that you could do this in pre-season, but once that official roster comes out - 30. That's a tough deal for kids that are on the bubble that would enroll in school, pay tuition on their dime, then have to wrestle-off....and not make it. Creates a tough situation for them rather than knowing you have a spot before you enroll.

Good question....I hadn't thought about that. I wonder how they will respond to this. Maybe some of our Ivy team supporters can chime in.

The coaches can - they see it in the room on a daily basis. The cinderella story can still happen with a 3rd string guy in the weight. You asked a question...I answered it with a reason I was given by a D1 coach.... sorry you don't like the answer.

This was the result of the NCAA settlement, to make these changes, so I am pretty sure the roster limits for all sports are hard lines...not something that you can change. According to Borelli, If your school does not participate in revenue sharing you cannot participate in the NCAA championships. What wrestler would want to be part of a program that 1. Does not share revenue with them 2. Cannot go to the NCAA championships ? At that point having 40 vs 30 on your roster won't matter, because your program will become a club. In other words, the NCAA settlement has put non-revenue balls in a vice, which was a problem they created in the first place.

From a resources standpoint, more wrestlers cost more money. You are using resources, man power and coaching time on wrestlers who will never see the lineup. Strength coach, trainer, tutors/advisors, etc. will spend time on 30 athletes vs. 40 athletes. The same would be true of the coaching aspect.

Ok gotcha... I would think that increasing the rosters of all the other more "popular" sports would have more positive impact on an enrollment than the decrease in other less attended sports would. Iowa usually has a large roster, so cutting back for them could be tough, but people are going to the Iowa home meets regardless (IMO) . Now, on a related note, I would agree that the last few years have seen some enrollment drops in higher education in general. I have been in the education world a long time and now more than ever, I encourage kids to go to community college for a trade that interests them and then get a paid internship. Many see what's going on with expensive tuition, massive loans, online classes and a general decline in academics at universities, and they are seeking other avenues.

Nothing like the NCAA putting the massive squeeze on everyone because of a problem they created.

Other factors will be endowments that programs have as well as donors who specifically give to scholarship funds. Either way, scholarships could be what The number of programs that can actually afford to give out 30 scholarships will be the ones that are already buying up talent and now have another avenue to buy talent. I know that teams have been cutting rosters down since last spring - not sure if they anticipated this or if it was just something that needed to be done financially anyway. We may see an increase in NAIA and D2 due to guys being cut from rosters and not having a place to go that can offer a scholarship.

Are you talking about school enrollment (from your previous post- "Schools that have trouble filling enrollment aren't great places to go to school") or are you talking about wrestling roster size?

So the teams wrestling in other conferences besides the P5 get screwed? Not that they can afford the 30 scholarships anyway.

Rosters will be cut down to 30 making it possible for some good kids to spread out a little to several programs, which is a good thing....However, very few schools will have 30 scholarships available to accommodate all the extra good kids......so here we are in a vicious cycle of the rich getting rich once again.

And if their age had been flipped, so would your statement.... It's not like Sanderson could have went to 12 year old Dake.

Yep...I agree...but I must confess that my daughter is an example and somewhat of a beneficiary of this. Having played pretty high level volleyball, she got a little burned out and didn't want to play volleyball in college. The Lacrosse coach reached out and she got a scholarship having never played. So... on to Lacrosse season!

For participation requirements they only have to meet one criteria - which could be accommodating interests and abilities of the underrepresented sex - so they are not out of compliance or avoiding a lawsuit - they are meeting one of the criteria. In Ohio State's case, they are a 50% split in gender (1a). From the NCAA: An institution must meet all of the following requirements in order to be in compliance with Title IX: For participation requirements, institutions officials must meet one of the following three tests. An institution may: Provide participation opportunities for women and men that are substantially proportionate to their respective rates of enrollment of full-time undergraduate students; Demonstrate a history and continuing practice of program expansion for the underrepresented sex; Fully and effectively accommodate the interests and abilities of the underrepresented sex; and, Female and male student-athletes must receive athletics scholarship dollars proportional to their participation; and, Equal treatment of female and male student-athletes in the eleven provisions as mentioned above.

Exactly what I was going to post... Women's wrestling got popular too late is one way to look at it.

Michigan and Ohio State have one more womens athletic program than mens...Penn State could actually add a women's team (they have one less) . Most of the Big 10 schools are even on sports teams or more womens.

Sad day for the Dakotas.... I think that he did that intentionally as to not start a civil Dakota war.

Bearclaw counts in my book.