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Little this weekend if he shows... He could end up facing Munoz and Little at the Pac-12 depending on how everything shakes out.

This is the real and original thread...

I'm going with Askey by Injury Def over Teemer

Thanks- I knew someone would have that criteria.

Clarification for. you guys Didn't want to start a new thread....second coaches ranking is tomorrow. In order to be in the ranking in the first one in January, you had to have 8 D1 matches at the weight and wrestle in the last 30 days. Does that 8 number increase this week or at the end of the season? I was thinking the end of season final rankings before at-large selection was 15 matches. I think you need 15 for the coaches ranking and the RPI for the total "tally" for the at-large bids at the NCAA - is that correct? Not to say you can't get in, but those are two of the criteria. Do I have that correct? The reason I ask is that , there are some guys who may need tourneys here at the end. Is Dresser busy?

I don't really consider teenagers younger ages, but okay. My experience in coaching wrestling has been that middle school is where it starts to get tough with the singlet issue...that and, "I don't like people touching me all over." Dude, your 6' 220 in 8th grade, you destroy people in football, but you're going to play basketball instead of punish people because of a singlet and not wanting "to be touched." ????

No, they said it would help participation at the high school level. Little kids didn't and don't care about a singlet, a two piece, shorts or a t-shirt. They found declining numbers began in MS and mainly at the high school level and tried the two piece. The. NFHSSA created the option in 2017 - 8 years ago. College wrestling may not have been the target, but they were certainly used to try to mainstream the two piece. I agree that it didn't hurt participation, but it also has not been the factor that has increased participation. When it was introduced participation increased very slightly, then dropped off in 21-22 due to the pandemic. The biggest jump in HS participation in both boys and girls happened from 22-23 to 23-24. If you read a lot of the articles on participation increasing, it is due to girls wrestling (and football), parents wanting their kids active again after the pandemic, the increased focus on promoting the sport (Let's wrestle, Wrestle Like a Girl, etc.), and the increased work of youth and HS coaches to promote the sport. The two-piece singlet didn't hurt participation, but it was not the driving factor in increasing participation either. It really has been a non factor and just provided an option for some kids who want it. https://www.vice.com/en/article/good-riddance-to-the-wrestling-singlet/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/268028/participation-in-us-high-school-wrestling/ https://www.themat.com/news/2024/august/20/nfhs-high-school-sports-participation-boys-and-girls-wrestling-make-big-gains-in-2023-24

Angel used to be a staple in Pac12 wrestling... I am glad he is now being shared with the rest of the country, especially the Big10.

Both are true... he had a hard time getting to 165...he looked out of shape out there at 174. The Big 12 bracket initially had Rogers in it as the #3 seed then got redrawn with Smith as the #8. Of course he was going to get the wrestle off because it's family, but having Rogers there all season, earning the allocation would have been the best move, especially in hindsight. Another storyline was that Rogers bumped up to 174 in the Iowa dual at the end of the season and got a pin, but he wasn't given the opportunity to bump up against Jacobe to earn the 174 spot the same that Joe was able to move down and challenge.

Make them wrestle it off - best 15 out of 29.

Very cool story about Carter and Jordan. It was not a bad move for Taylor.... it ended up being a win win for everyone involved. That's what you want to see happen.

@SetonHallPirate is this you?

LOL... my post was from literally over a year and a half ago....there was nobody at that time that disagreed. 3x PA finalist, state champ and #3 guy in the country at his weight - I could go on. Coming off injury in his first match. LOL.. nice troll though, I give you that.

Introducing the puffy singlet...from the makers of The Bro.

Munoz not taking another year.... going to battle the rest of the season.

@Husker_Du Big board has 6 OK State kids in the top 20...followed by PSU with 3, Virginia Tech with 3, NC State 2, Missouri 2, Cornell 2, Iowa 2 and Melvin still out there. It still comes back to development... PSU gets guys they want and they develop and get better every season. How many times have people posted "If this X happens then they could beat PSU" then PSU actually beats everyone by more. DT showing early he can develop guys - a lot of improvement this season.

Not a fan of the two piece from day 1. If you have been on this board for a long time, you might remember there were a lot of people who wanted the two piece and how it was such a great thing for kids who were embarrassed to wear the singlet. We needed to make kids more comfortable so more kids were going to wrestle. Singlet guys for the win. As a side note, if you want to see some fun stuff, give Nate Engel a follow... his 3 boys wear their Oregon State singlets and head gear everywhere...literally - haha.

No matter what you think of his online and media presence, I will tell you the dude is a great guy personally. I spent time with him and he was a class act. Great supporter of college wrestling.

I bet Bo can't crush an apple in his hand.... if he can we may call is the Bodge.

Losing Buchanan was a real gut punch... I am surprised they have been able to keep Volk. Don't tell Bob about him.

Seems like just last year he was proclaimed to be a national champ this year.....

I've got the right guy....

You rang?

You are moving the goal posts....your initial post states: "My approach to a wrestling program is that they are the least costly programs you can have. All you need is a room, a mat, and a coach who can drive a car and push a mop. Many very successful programs have that and no more. That is half a professor's salary." I ask again, in your own words and your own "approach to a wrestling program", what "very successful programs have a room, mat, a coach who can drive a car and push a mop and no more" and pay their head coach "half a professors salary." If you want to talk top end salaries of professors that are in admin, that's a different story. The average salary of professors at large schools are in that 125-150 range. BTW - Your reference to Moore's salary is when he was an assistant not head coach from, as you said, 8 years ago. Ben Stehura was the head coach.