JimmyCinnabon

The difference is I’m only trolling the other guy with my name and not the whole board.

The real Jimmy is still on this board. It's not me but the other one is certainly the original. I don't go around pretending like PSU is in big trouble every day.

It's not half trolling it's full trolling. It's just being completely disingenuous for the sake of being disingenuous.

Nelson Brands went on Twitter and said that they did have a training on this but he skipped it. Frankly I think the punishments are way too harsh and they should be allowed to wrestle so long as they never bet on wrestling. But it appears as if they programs did have something in place to inform the athletes about gambling.

It's Iowa. It's almost always Iowa.

There is certainly enough talent in PA to support a good Edinboro team. It's a matter of getting those kids to want to wrestle at Edinboro, which is a hard sell. I've been to Edinboro plenty of times and my sister was even on an athletic scholarship there once upon a time and it's not a very enticing place to go to school if you ask me.

Fair enough.

I'd like to change my selection, I was not aware weed and PB were included. You holding out on me?

I think the regular choco chip is good. I am not a big fan of too many chocolate chips in my cookie. I'll provide my own milk. I wouldn't put that responsibility on you.

Neither Chad Gable nor Jacob Kasper have anywhere near the real wrestling credentials that Gable has either. So maybe you're right in that it's the charisma/mic aspect that is holding him back because I doubt the average fan even knows those guys were NCAA wrestlers but I'll bet everybody knows who Gable Steveson is, considering Gable didn't even have to change his name and take on a gimmick in WWE. He already had name recognition and his gimmick is just his real life accolades. He already had such an advantage to go to WWE that it is sort of mind boggling that he is relegated to house shows.

Interestingly enough Nelson. Brands admitted in a tweet that he skipped the training on not being allowed to gamble on anything while an athlete at Iowa. The impression that I got was that he was trying to imply that he was ignorant of the rules so he should be spared. It's a terribly poor argument but I don't know why else he would publicly admit this.

Again, I don't know what the issue is, if there even is an issue. I was purely speculating based on how I understand the business and what the things are that I understand will hold someone back. It could be charisma like you said, I don't know. Based on what I've seen from him in interviews he doesn't appear to be a naturally charismatic person so that could be it. There are two other examples of guys like him that I can remember entering the WWE (WWF at the time) and those are Kurt Angle and Mark Henry. When they first came in they were immediately given a push. Gable has not. Historically those kinds of guys are not put on a shelf once they are introduced. However, things are very different now than they were in the 90's.

That would depend entirely on what kind of cookie you're offering. What are my options?

I don't know who the other one is but I'm the one who doesn't create a hundred silly disingenuous threads on message boards. I think you're probably smart enough to figure out if this was my handle on the TheMat or not.

Says me. I said it. You quoted me. It's literally impossible to tie me to any other account that posts here. You can waste all the time you want trying. And even if you were an admin who had access to the IP addresses you would never ever find more than one account here posting from the same IP address as me because it simply does not exist. And again, any admin that is reading these, feel free to confirm this. However, if I did make a second account here it would be nhs_67. That much I can guarantee.

It means they're willing to lose in what they consider a legit fashion (getting pinned or submitted). Disqualifications and count outs wouldn't count as putting someone over. I have no idea if this is the case, but I imagine that someone who is an Olympic gold medalist might not be Ok with putting someone over (allowing them to pin them) even in the WWE. Most young guys don't have a choice here. They're brand new so they have to be willing to lose because they have no cred which means it doesn't really mean much when someone beats them. Gable is different because he's an Olympic gold medalist so him losing would be putting someone over in a bigger way. The more successful and over you are in the business the more pushback you can give on whether you'll put a guy over or not.

I don't think he will ever have a problem athletically however from what I understand about the business is that it's more than athleticism when it comes down to it. There are a few things that really hold guys back. 1. Being careless in the ring. If you aren't safe to work with you're not going to make it. 2. Not selling moves. If you aren't willing to sell things or you simply aren't good at the acting bit of it you won't make it. 3. Not willing to put guys over. It doesn't matter what real credentials you have in real competitive sports, those mean nothing in the business. You put guys over or you aren't going to be working. An ego coming from actual wrestling can certainly be hard to get over when it comes to putting guys over. Plenty of guys have made it in the business with poor mic skills, which can be worked on but the three things I mentioned, as far as I have been able to tell, are huge deals and if Gable falls into just one of those categories then they may be not very happy with him.

Sure, an admin can. You can't. If any admin from this site wants to publicly state whether I have more than one account here they can. They can see any IP address I've used to post here with any account. I don't care if they want to tell people I have one account. If you think you can see my IP address then go ahead and reply to this and post the IP addresses and the usernames of mine. You're only going to find one, and it's this one. I don't know why you want me to be more than one account here so badly.

I am fantastic and yourself?

Brian Burrows threw his wrestling career away his freshman year of college. I think he would have been an NCAA champ (multiple) had he not did what he did. He was an incredible talent.

Well then I stand corrected. He was plenty successful after high school

I believe Apple Valley sounds right. McCauley I think was from Minnesota and not Wisconsin but I knew who you were talking about. I am too lazy to look it up. He was something like a 6X state champ (Mark Hall before Mark Hall). He did not fair well after high school. I think he ended up in DII or something.

I don't know if recruiting in the mid to late 90's was comprehensive enough to really pin down a generational recruit. Cael was certainly a known quantity at the time and competed the Dapper Dan Classic for team USA so he was known nationally. And are you taking about Destin McCauley as the kid from Wisconsin?

I don't have an issue with this. He is 3-0 and took down the defending NCCA champ. I don't see where else he should be ranked other than first. The top of this looks right to me.

The rings 100% suck. When I was in college I went to visit a buddy of mine at another school and they had a small promotion come to put on a show. One of his college friends always had a dream of being a professional wrestler. The deal was that if we helped set up the ring and tear it down after the show we would be allowed to goof around in the ring for like 20 minutes or something. So we did however they said they had to bring their backup ring which was in poor condition so we wouldn't be allowed to use it. Of course they told us this after we set it up for them. Frankly it was all just a scam to get free labor. After seeing what the ring is actually made of I wouldn't even want to mess around in it. With that being said this guy did end up becoming a pro wrestler but at a small promotion. He was a champ of some sort at one point. He achieved his dream but now at 43 years old he is retired from the pro wrasslin deal.