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I’ve always been in the camp that the world medalists have earned that right. However, I think you bring up a fair point. Our depth right now is really good (in freestyle anyway). Last year, the men medaled in 8 out 10 weights. Winning a bronze medal doesn’t really make you an all-star on Team USA anymore. I would be fine with World champ gets a bye to Final X, and bronze or silver gets a bye to US open finals or something like that. It would make sense to have a distinction for world champions.

Why did Gable and Smith stop wrestling when they were both in the peak of their career then? Just playing devils advocate here, but Spencer has already wrestled through worse injuries than those listed. I mean the guy won NCAAs with two torn ACLs! I remember watching him wrestle the state tournament in high school and we could tell something was wrong but he told no one beforehand and decided to wrestle anyway. As we learned later, he had torn his acl just a few weeks before and I remember being impressed with how tough he must be for a high school kid to make that decision. Most people would have simply retired with the slew of injuries he had (like Smith and Gable did). What does the guy have to do to be tough enough for you?! I’d love to see all the internet tough guys try to compete at that level with those kind of injuries lol

Is that actually what was said? That sounds more plausible. I was just making a joke.

I would say when the match ends, they declare a winner, and they raise his hand. Or at least before the wrestlers leave the mat. If a coach wants to challenge the final score, they need to throw the brick and stay there. They need to take time to get it right before they walk away and officially end the match. It looks really bad to change it after the fact. Do any other sports reverse entire outcomes after a winner has been declared? (Honest question…not sure).

But they had Bartlett winning on the scoreboard and raised his hand. It was only 3 seconds left but he deserves to know if he is losing and have chance for a quick score. What if it would be 10 seconds, or 30 seconds, or a minute? What’s the cutoff where it’s ok to just reverse the winner? They to pause the match to make sure the table has criteria right

Gable: “Man, you are lucky I decided not wrestle NCAA this year so you could win the National Championship and Hodge trophy.” Parris: “Yeah, you are right. Thanks. I appreciate it. Please go back to WWE for 2024”

So sad to hear about Lee. I hope he takes time to fully heal and comes back with a vengeance next year and wins an Olympic gold! It’s a shame the process has to start so early for qualifying for worlds. Maybe he would be healthy by that time but we will never know

Maybe we could have an individual tournament that crowns the best individuals and a team tournament that crowns the best team???Crazy concept, I know…

I would guess he is thinking it is the best place to help him become a national champion and then be able to give the glory to God on national TV. It’s more about having a platform to share your faith. If he went to a private Christian school, who would he have to share his faith with?

My biggest takeaway from all these stats is how on earth did Jason Nolf never win the Hodge Trophy?!

Well, at least the title of the thread still applies to what it has become…

Is nhs67 Pat Mineo’s username?

It’s not ideal for people that have to fly in, but Harrisburg should have some affordable flights and it’s not too bad of a drive from there. What makes it a great location is that is centrally located in PA. The majority of the fans will be driving there, and the state’s hotbeds for wrestling are Pittsburgh area and Lehigh valley. Both are opposite ends of the state, so if you have it in say, Philly, it would be an easy drive for the Lehigh Valley guys but Pittsburgh would be too long for most to make the trip. State College will draw people from all over the state and surrounding states.

What offer did he allegedly get?

I don’t have time to look up all the data… maybe @Wrestleknownothing has a chart for us ? But a quick search shows we are headed in the right direction https://uww.org/article/wrestling-enjoys-record-viewership-world-champs-108-athletes-qualify-spots-olympic-games https://uww.org/article/wrestling-scores-big-world-cships-706-percent-jump-engagements

Good point. I’m not sure… probably a 50/50 at best, which is sad

Seriously… how can anyone compete with Penn State right now?! I don’t blame the top kids for wanting to go there, but it’s no fun for everybody else. Sucks knowing in April who is going to win the NCAA championships in March. What kind of odds would you need to take the field over Penn State right now?

Point 1 is clearly not true. I don’t even really follow others sports to know if it has happened elsewhere, but freestyle wrestling has made huge gains in popularity and viewership as a direct result of rules changes. Compare the world championship viewer ratings now to the “ball grab” era. Rules were horrible back then and the changes they made brought more fans to the sport

In what situation, would that actually happen? If you are losing, you would try to stall on bottom?? If you are winning, and the top guy can’t turn you, he would just cut you… the 3 point takedown makes it much easier for him to make a comeback from his feet.

Yeah the only issue I see with a three point td and 2 pt reversal is that and escape and a td is now worth 4 pts and a reversal is only 2. There are some situations where those look almost identical and it’s a tough call to make if it should be a reversal or not… now that’s a two point difference which is huge

I don’t think it changes anything in that regard. If you are up by 3, you are only up by one takedown… doesn’t really change if a td is 2 or 3 pts. They are making it harder to ride without turning with other new rules, so it would be harder for a wrestler to ride out for a win

No it’s not. The NCAA tournament ratings were down big time this year, and there is an aging group of hardcore fans that are the main thing keeping it alive. Stalling and riding on top have increasingly become worse over the years. I’m a diehard wrestling fan and I’m bored watching mat wrestling. Leaving things the way they are will slowly kill our sport. We need to continue to make positive changes

Interesting… we called it the Oklahoma. Apparently, it’s an equal opportunity ride

I agree. I was a bit confused because the wording made it seem like it would be grasping with the hand, but CP mentioned you can’t sit on the ankle… I thought that would mean you can’t hook with your leg.