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Did Liberty die? mspart

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12390725/Doctor-PBS-says-people-start-masking-amid-small-Covid-uptick-HOME.html No she's not hyperbolic. She's just very concerned as we all should be. And yes this in Aug 2023. This is an example of bringing out the old standby and trying to scare people without real cause. Eris covid strikes easy as is expected with virus evolution, but is much less deadly. Same old play really. mspart

I got my data from US sources. It is not that difficult to find the actual facts. Google - US covid deaths by age https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/ Google - US covid cases by age https://www.statista.com/statistics/1254271/us-total-number-of-covid-cases-by-age-group/ These searches will give you the data I showed above earlier. All it does is show a gross picture of what is happening. The numbers are big. Only when you calculate the rates do you begin to see the underwhelming truth of how horrible it wasn't. Granted it put a lot of people under. But most of those were older and/or susceptible to disease due to comorbidities. The young meaning 50 and younger generally had nothing to fear from Covid. But the hysteria over it does not share that reality. If you had it, and entered society, you were walking death for everyone around you, as personified by Rachel Maddow. The actual fact of the matter is that, no you weren't. The actual fact is if you had it, most people you contacted would not get it. Of those unfortunate enough that would get it, very very few would succumb. Many people that died in the early stages died of dehydration and malnutrition because they were in the hospital and no one wanted to go near because it was almost certain death to do so. Saying that, the first version was deadlier than later versions as the virus lost its virulence as it mutated as predicted by rational people. Irrational people continued to think it was existential to the point that they wanted 6 month olds vaccinated. My mother died in early Feb 2020 of pancreatic cancer. Just before the covid shutdown. We buried her end of Feb and made ready for a memorial for her where she lived in a retirement place. I prepared a short eulogy and was told no one from the outside was allowed in the bldg. This was early Mar 2020. I said, ok, and sent them the eulogy that they could share with all the residents who were friends with my mom. I heard nothing so I called a week later and within those few days, the facility was completely shut down and residents were not allowed to leave their apartments. The memorial was never done. I feel very blessed for me and my sisters and brother that my mother died before all that and I feel like it was a blessing for her also. How horrible that time was for elderly folks who fell ill. We could only hold a funeral where extended family could come in Aug 2020. We were on our way when we got a call from someone that said my daughter had covid. So we stopped in LaGrande Oregon and asked my sisters what they thought. They were all above 60 and one with diabetes. They each in their own way said not to come. So I missed meeting with my cousins and siblings and extended family because of that. We watched it on youtube live in the hotel room. My daughter never showed any symptoms. We stayed the night and headed back home the next day. My boys were scared to death to be around her. The hysteria had gotten to them. Remember, young people had nothing to fear from covid but they were indoctrinated that it was certain death to get it. They had to be in a separate hotel room from her because of that. The ride home in the same car was tense. She stayed with me and my wife that night. My niece got covid in NYC in 2020 where she lived and had difficulty breathing for days. Unless near death, she was told not to come to the hospital. She recovered but it was a tough bug. She got the first wave. Students at UW at a certain apartment bldg got covid and they were locked down. None died. Few showed symptoms. Granted that is anecdotal, but that was the experience nationwide. Young people could get it but it either showed no symptoms or was a mild to bad cold. mspart

Yah you bet!! mspart

Never had CE until I was a volunteer asst coach in Apple Valley (not that HS, the other one there) and those guys went rough, they had headgear but I didn't. Soon my ear started hurting. It kept hurting so I finally went to the doc. He said if I had come in sooner he could have drained it. I was too late. It is slight and most people would not notice, but astute observers would be able to see it. I went to Veterans nationals in 2002 I think and was in the first aid tent with a friend who was getting stitches. A Senior level guy came in with the most brutal ears I have seen personally. Why was he in there? To get one drained. With those ears I thought? What's the point? His ears were a mess. Not like the Steiner twins but they were pretty bad. Like I said, they were the worst I have personally seen. mspart

You commie pinko whacko. But we love you for your name!! mspart

BB - I told you not to tell that story. mspart

Ionel - Looking at it that way, not a bad thing. Lipdrag - I guess he is brilliant!! mspart

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Correction: I was off by 10x. Now I am not off at all. Granted that last statement is subject to opinion. mspart

So it will be essentially against the law for him to talk about the indictments against him? The Ds want to put him in jail and muzzle him while doing so. All on the up and up. This is a federal issue of retaliation against a former president running again and he doesn't have a right to call that out in his campaigning? And the American people don't have a right to know about it? That's essentially what they are trying to do. mspart

I smoke all my meats with cottonwood and hemlock. mspart

Everyone, Brother BB just got out of exile. I'm not saying go easy on him, but he is a brother and should be on these boards. Brother BB - Hang in there man. You are doing fine as far as I can see. mspart

As of August 7, 2023, President Joe Biden just took his 367th day of vacation in just 2.5 years, which sets a record compared to any other president in recent history. Biden has been on vacation for roughly 40% of his time in office. He is outpacing every single one of his modern predecessors. So he is unique. He's the oldest ever and takes the most vacations ever. I don't get that much. He's figured out the system. Perhaps we only need a 60% President. Pay him/her 60% of what he is currently getting. Obviously we don't need a full time President, he's proving that everyday. mspart

I can't edit now but for 0-17, death rate was 0.0098%. It is in error above by a factor of 10. mspart

Yes Trump did that and what would you be saying if he didn't? But in the beginning, the vaccine was for those that needed it. Old people, people with bad immune systems, obese, with diabetes, or other comorbidities. Young people were not in danger of it and this was known. Even middle aged people were not in great danger of it. All of that action to have everyone vaccinated was a liberal cause. All of the lengthy shutdowns was a liberal cause. Interminable mask mandates was a liberal cause. Saying you risk everyone else if you don't wear a mask was a liberal cause. See reaction of MSNBC's Rachel Maddow when DCD lifted their mask mandate. She had to consciously think that that unmasked person was not a threat. I'm sure you can find the youtube of that one. And she ain't no conservative. This is all well known and documented. So what you are trying to say is that Trump got the vaccine going and he's not liberal so it was not a liberal issue. My perspective is that not knowing exactly how things with covid were, it was prudent of any President to get a remedy as quickly as possible. But all the hysteria after that was liberal politics. For the US, here is the up to date covid death chart: As you can see, most of the deaths were for folks above 50 years old. Younger folks didn't have much concern. This is who contracted covid. Few older folks got it but it killed more of them. Lots of younger folks got it but were mostly unaffected. Compare age of contracting covid vs that age group death and you get a rate. I'll do a few. For those 85+, death rate was 15.8% For those 50-64 death rate was 1.1%. For 40-49, death rate was 0.33%. For 0-17, death rate was 0.098%. Vaccinating school age kids is almost worthless. But that too is a liberal cause. Why? Because for liberals, covid is death, which as you can see is not the case. The upshot is no matter what age you are, you have a slim chance of dying from covid. But the older group certainly has a greater chance. mspart

Ban - using the word tedious? Isn't that a bit high brow? Are you trying to increase our vocabulary? I say hmmph hmmph!! (must be done in an English accent to get the full effect) mspart

Here Here! mspart

So will UW and UO bring back wrestling? I would applaud that. mspart

If I remember history and I'm not sure I am remembering it well, it was the Big 8 champ vs Pac 8 champ at the Rose Bowl. That was the deal for a lot of the history of the Rose Bowl. That has been lost for the last number of years, but the Pac 8 was a serious conference. Now it is relegated to history. I'm a nostalgic type and just think this is sad. Blame money and airplanes. Can you imagine Big 8 winner traveling all the way to Pasadena back in the day. Miserable. That was the key to Pac 8 success at the Rose Bowl ha ha. mspart

Will Big 10 change names? Big 12? Pac 12. My suggestion for Pac 12 name change is Pac 0. There will be no PAC anymore. It's done. That history is gone. mspart

Great TM!! Instead of twitter.com it will be xmarksthespot.com. The conversion will be complete. mspart

Ban, Yes, we are aware of that. In fact the article goes on to say that the "policy" comes just days after the group representing the country's school boards wrote to President Joe Biden to plead for federal assistance in responding to mounting threats and violence that they likened to domestic terrorism against school board members related to their decisions on COVID-19 school safety policies, critical race theory and more. Interestingly, the group retracted that letter but DOJ did not stop. There was lots of discussion of this at the time. Just because a group says there are threats and violence does not mean it is so. In today's world, words are violence and looking or saying the wrong thing can be considered a microaggression or threat. So definitions matter. DOJ looked into this for exactly a few days before issuing the new policy. Based on what? Apparently based on the retracted letter from the teacher's group. mspart

I think a definition of extremism is useful in this discussion. 1. Is a person who bashes in a police car an extremist? 2. Is a person that sets a police precinct on fire an extremist? 3. Is a person that sets buildings in a city an extremist? 4. is a person that speaks up at a school board mtg or city council and is a bit animated an extremist? 5. Is a protester outside an abortion clinic an extremist? 6. Is a protester outside a police station an extremist? Loads of other examples of could be extremists. DOJ put parents on notice for being extremist at school board meetings because of what's going on in schools that is crazy. Voicing concerns or opinions at a school board mtg is not extremist in my opinion. Telling them you are going to injure or kill them is another matter. mspart

I typed in x.com in the URL (not google or other search engine, the actual URL area) and it sent me to twitter.com. So the name hasn't changed which is why everyone calls it Twitter. Only the changed to X. Nothing else changed. mspart