
uncle bernard
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you keep saying this but it’s not true. like not even close. for example, our civilian kill rate in afghanistan was 8x lower by the most charitable Israeli civilian numbers, which are very much in dispute. it’s likely the number is even worse. how are you so stupid to think that a 2:1 rate could possibly be “the lowest” in history?? also fareed isn’t doing the talking here. he’s just the panel host. the other two are worth listening to and one of them is on your side.
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just once, can find an example of me saying this? you keep asserting it and it’s a waste of time when you’re arguing against something nobody on here has said. also, a little rich to talk about IQ and not be able to handle the intellectual complexity of “allies get held to a higher standard than terrorists.” i also hold my friends to higher behavioral standards than stray dogs.
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the notable example of “kill the jews” was confirmed (on video and by journalists on site) to be from a pro-israel protestor. the vast majority of these are peaceful until the police show up. people will always find reasons for why they support free speech but *this* time is different. a lot of people tend to be anti-war and pro-civil rights except for the war and protests going on right now. i’ve been at a protest for the last 3 days. the only time it gets confrontational is when the police show up to enforce a rule the university instituted overnight to give them an excuse to break up the protest. the rest of the time it’s a few hundred people sitting in the campus designated protest zone sharing food, singing, chanting, doing homework, and getting sun. israeli counter protesters show up and try to provoke us and we just by saying offensive things and we just laugh and ignore them. yet, when you go online, this encampment is described by many sources as violent and confrontational with isolated clips of when the riot police show up and assault people. it’s insane.
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Not the best faith response, but I'm patient. I'm not "cool with it." He will be punished. But that's not a life sentence worthy crime. He's a young kid who should have the opportunity to grow. I say the same thing to the Israeli counterprotestor who chanted "death to the jews." And I agreed it created a hostile environment. The protests and chants should be focused on defending the rights of Palestinians, not making threats to Zionists.
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1) Many people on here constantly accuse me of supporting hamas. I'm glad you aren't and I jumped the gun. 2) I can't answer for everybody, but I think we all understand that the US has far more power to influence Israel's behavior than Hamas. I also think you'd find disagreement about the "human shields" issue because I think it's largely a convenient line for Israel to justify them taking shortcuts that don't prevent extensive civilian casualties. Yes, Hamas is embedded all over Gaza, but where else are they supposed to go? It's a tiny strip of land with 2 million people and beseiged on all sides. Any military installation would be struck immediately. It is an occupied territory and by nature any military movement within it has to be a guerilla movement. And my criticism is that Israel is perfectly comfortable killing 20 "human shields" if it means they might kill 1 actual militant and that's wrong imo. 3) Which brings me to the next point. You can use the same human shield argument against Israel. Hamas (and the IDF in the crossfire) killed many civilians on 10/7. Some of the most intense fighting took place in Kibbutz with attached military bases targeted by Hamas. Israel is constantly building illegal settlements on the border of Gaza and the West Bank creating a civilian barrier between Palestine and their population centers. If Israel was more concerned with the safety of its citizens, it wouldn't be building settlements next door to a giant prison camp filled with militants who want to kill them. But it's balancing concern with safety and peace with their interest in taking more and more land, which again is in clear violation of international law. *But yes, the murder of civilians on 10/7 (and before and after) is wrong and any person who took place in it can and should be held accountable.*