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Bernie- the ‘mass’ firing refers the cancel culture where strangers and acquaintances acted to get people fired because of their beliefs and comments. Often the comments were taken out of context and the mob was miss informed. Gina Carino is a popular example off the top of mind. Here are a few more examples https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/06/stop-firing-innocent/613615/ There are many examples. In the last few years, sharing thoughts with colleagues at work about the Covid policies or anything conservative on Facebook and Twitter was unthinkable for fear of cancel culture. The mob uses pitchforks before the facts are known.

I bet BB respects individuals' chosen pronouns and BB intentionally uses incorrect pronouns as a rhetorical device to illustrate the disagreement with those who do not. He would call them sir if they were Sue.

Unfortunately, many Americans DO NOT WANT TO KNOW, and the History books oblige. The chart represents Trump and Biden voters who support the statement. https://centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/VoV-Presentation-FINAL.pdf The survey is a real head-scratcher on the percent of people supporting specific topic positions. Note that 6% more of the 2008 people surveyed leaned Democratic over Republican.

15. Let's rehash. You laid out fighting words in the original topic post. confrontational tone assuming supporters are motivated by fear framing a simple view as if it is only a matter of having difficult conversations with children This bullshit-worded post came from a place much more profound, as you are just starting to explain (poor kids). Please explain why you are against book bans and what makes people 'weak' for supporting them. I am a parent who supports book bans as a concept, even when I disagree with parents (and educators) over what should be banned. I have uncomfortable and difficult conversations with my children. I am being confrontational. How many assumptions, accusations, and over-generalizations are made in your last statement? I agree that not everyone has easy access to a public library, parents that care, etc. I am likely ignorant for believing that kids in low socioeconomic situations can still access banned books... and perhaps a bigger ignorant for expecting the education system (absent banned books) to cover the content kids need to know. I don't understand the anti-book ban argument from a parent's perspective. In a different example concerning the risk of child harm, many schools have policies restricting where peanuts can be eaten or outright banning their presence. This is done to protect 1-2% of children at risk. My kids love peanut butter, and it sucks that they can't eat it for school lunch. It is no big deal that they can't eat PB because of the risk (to others). So when a group of parents says that a few books may harm their children (at their age), I support them as I assume most considerate parents would.

I was in a programming class taught by an instructor I did not like. He pulled me aside one day in the lab: "JROSS, you don't seem interested in this class. Stop thinking about how boring this assignment is and think about what you can do with the skill." He then described the Internet of Things before IOT existed. I worked harder on that assignment than any programming assignment before. The teacher came back and praised the quality of my work. TLDR; "Find the Why."

This was at a public university. I also had a philosophy instructor from a public community college say: "Show your hands if you believe in god. [two hands go up, including mine] By the end of this course, nobody will."

Please say more about this one. There is a story here.

Biology teacher: The point of life is to spread your seed far and wide.

This sounds familiar for another question and now somehow we have 3-point takedowns.

What humorous, insightful, and uncomfortable quotes and phrases have you heard from your teacher?

Class dismissed.

Stop. Public library. Book borrow from a friend. Work and pay $9.00 for the book online.

Ugh. https://costamesaconfidential.com/2022/08/graphic-inappropriate-novel-discovered-at-wilson-elementary-school-library/

"You know your sister gives 110% behind the dish (baseball catcher). Why don't you try as hard as she does?" WHAT!?!?

It does not belong in K-6 lib, like is mentioned in a story where a third grader found it.

Now who is dishonest? Did I say the book is shoved in their faces? Is K-6 young adult?

In the land before mobile phones, my father and I found ourselves waiting for a family friend. We arrived ten minutes early in our trusty blue Nissan pickup, the vehicle that had carried us across the Midwest for countless wrestling tournaments. However, the friend had yet to appear five minutes past the agreed meeting time. At that moment, my father's frustration surfaced as he grumbled about punctuality and shared that if you're not 10 minutes early, you're 20 minutes late.

Why do schools block web traffic and certain keyword searches? Why does the school email parents their child's keyword searches on school devices? Why does the school use history books that omit historical facts?

Brace yourself for the circus responses Stay in your lane. Parents have no say in the curriculum because they are not qualified educators. Parents should trust educators to provide age-appropriate content. You have given zero evidence for why you should get to impose personal beliefs on everyone. This goes against freedom of expression. We need to get these young children to think critically about what they read instead of shielding them from uncomfortable material. Nuh uh! Cite your sources.

What humorous or insightful quotes and phrases have you heard from your father?

What dishonesty has been presented in support of book bans at public schools? Why should 6-year-olds have access to the graphic novel "Flamer" in their school library?

Key point: the books are still accessible for everyone outside the school! If we engaged in a lengthy conversation, we would identify inappropriate content that you believe should have restricted access to children. We would likely align to support book bans on a case-by-case basis, preserving intellectual freedom, and age-appropriateness, and addressing (parental, educator, etc.) concerns through open communication and alternative options rather than outright censorship. Examples... parental emails on books accessed, lib policy for parent permission to access targeted books, alternative assignments, etc. ------- @ThreePointTakedown seemed to agree with you initially, but later his statement: "I agree with parents in Cali. Well done." might support the parent's behavior to influence "Flamer" removal from the K-6 library. (article link) Have you been able to read into that situation? Is Flamer appropriate for K-6 school libraries?

@neutral I'm the main person expressing specific reasons for support, and I am fully game to hear you explain how I'm being dishonest. @Bigbrog is correct that you should be more specific when you accuse the crowd of dishonesty.

Please tell me more precisely what dishonest reasoning I'm using to support book bans.

Everyone wants equal rights and equal opportunity. Not everyone wants equal outcomes. Generally speaking of course.