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I am going to guess you don't have the numbers to back that up or you would have shared them.

Dude, its like you don't even listen to my username.

Askren REALLY does not like Bono. Between "we know he's got no morals" and "I don't find him to be a trustworthy individual" (the second one he said he said to Kyle Burwick's dad while he was being recruited by WI), he really flamed Bono. Oh, and he described Bono as having built a house next to the transfer portal.

In high school I was a straight A student. With the freedom to sleep in, skip classes, and drink beer, boy did I regress. But, I digress...what was the topic?

And yet IL has more than double the number of starters in the B1G than PA though they have the same population. And IN has more starters in the B1G than PA though they have just over half the population.

I am surprised IL and IN lead the number of starters. Great stuff, as usual, @flyingcement IL with the same population as PA and yet double the starters.

He has a little streak of mean in him from whistle to whistle, but not before or after. I like it. He would manhandle some guys.

You misspelled miserable.

I did triathlon relays. I would do the swim and pass the timer anklet to the cyclists and then meet the cyclist and runner at the finish line. The worst part of the Chicago Triathlon is that is it is about a quarter mile run from the swim exit to the bike racks. One year I had a shoulder injury, so most of my training was with a kick board. I leaned heavily on my kick during the swim that year to the point that my ass cramped up on the run to the bike racks.

I said sportsmanship. If you don't get it, I can't help you.

Agreed, and I call them out as lazy or dumb takes. I do think there is room for an honest discussion around possible overuse/overtraining injuries at Iowa, though. I say possible because I do not know, but last year seemed like a case of overuse injuries accumulating. Where Spencer Lee has made it clear that the decision to wrestle or not is his, you cannot put that on the coaches that in hindsight he made a poor decision to not get his knees repaired prior to last year. But with Eierman, Kemerer, and Cassioppi I think it is a fair question to ask if these injuries were due to overtraining.

It is on my bucket list to never run a marathon...in aggregate. So far, so good.

I work for a company whose general partner always says, "we want to be rich, not famous."

I linked from the start of the conversation (1:11:00). After Ben Askren says, "I hate the fact that you don't count them as loses", Christian Pyles responds, "Yep, um, that is, uh, an example where, you know, it's not great, but can't count injury default wins...yeah, I mean, if the NCAA changes their stance on it, then, uh, maybe we would too, but." Askren says loses clearly and Pyles mumbles the word wins as JD Rader begins to talk over him, so I guess I focused on Askren's claim and missed Pyles' qualifier. Later (1:14:36) Pyles says that Lewan will not fall in the rankings because of the Scott injury default match, but will fall because he lost to Kendall Coleman, and so seems to contradict his earlier statement. In short it is a mess.

Agreed, and I was on record over there saying 99% of what is considered a duck by people in these forums is just dumb. The one certified duck is when Schultz was standing matside with headgear on at last year's collegiate duals. And it wasn't even Schultz doing the ducking. That was on Zeke Jones. In a sport where injury is a near guarantee, we are lazy calling a duck rather than recognzing that fact. Of course, the Brooks situation was not reported as an injury, but as sportsmanship. The coaches arranged for a fair match. So be it.

Dumb stuff.

Crap, now I have to go back through FRLs to find it. I think it was 868 or 870. But stay tuned.

Their stated reason for not including injury defaults is that the NCAA does not include injury defaults. They have also stated that when the NCAA includes injury defaults, so will they. So why include other matches that the NCAA does not include? It has nothing to do with ease of interpretation.

The point is that Flo vehemently denies that rankings are opinions and then they make choices that contradict that position.

Let's talk about the ongoing silliness that is the Flo rankings policy. They will not include an injury default, including those that occur after the match starts, because "the match didn't happen according to the NCAA, if the NCAA includes them we will" (that was a Christian Pyles paraphrase from a recent FRL). But another match that did not happen according to the NCAA, the All-Star Challenge, they do include. Anyone care to offer a theory why they would do that? Anyone care to offer a theory on how that theory interacts with their prior statements about the objectiveness of their approach?

Penn State had a good week and their expected lead has grown along with their expected number of All-Americans per Intermat Flo has the lead pretty much unchanged, but doesn't like Iowa as much (they are also the only service that is including the All-Star Classic in their rankings) I am never really sure what to say about Wrestlestat

And you call yourself a PSU fan? The original plan was for Munoz to wrestle Brooks in the dual and have McKinney wrestle Ball in an extra match. But Munoz was hurt so they agreed to make McKinney/Ball the dual match and sit Brooks.

If I was going you would have a ride, but not going to make it this year.

Collegiate duals. https://intermatwrestle.com/articles/26203