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In addition to the two records that we already know about - 177 points, 10 AA's (tied with 2001 Minnesota), I think PSU set, or tied, at least two other records this week. 3.1 - highest average finish (tied with 1991 Iowa - if you are charitable and assume their blood round loser finished 9th) 48 - most matches won in a single tournament (previous best was 46 by 1992 Iowa) @cowcards check me on that last one, please

They reversed their decision in the offseason, awarded Iowa State their fourth place trophy after the fact, and now award through fourth again at the tournament.

Yes, it does.

Funny, I was just looking at this. I have not put this year's complete results into the db yet, so there is a little hand work here. I will fix that. PSU had an average seed of 2.6. I do not know for sure (I will be checking), but I believe this is unprecedented. In spite of that insanely high starting point, the end point only missed by 0.5. They finished with an average position of 3.1. That they missed by only a half a spot is pretty bonkers. Below are the Cael years up until now. So, in spite of having a nearly impossible number to beat, they still did better relative to seed than in 2022, 2019, 2017, and 2013. And they did this with 10 wrestlers. It is always easier when there are few opportunities for failure, especially where outperformance is not possible (#1 seeds). And here is the thing about 2024. Starocci was the #9 seed for purely administrative reasons. If he is not forced to medically forfeit by his coach, he is likely the #1 seed. That would have brought PSU's average seed down to 3.2. In that scenario, PSU also misses by 0.5 in a year when they also break the point scoring record. The idea of underperformance and overperformance is not an absolute. I know in the hot take era this is not a popular view. Stephen A Smith is getting paid an insane amount for a reason. But if you are the #33 seeded wrestler there is no such thing as underperformance. And if you are the #1 seeded wrestler there is no such thing as overperformance. A sliding scale, or at least the acknowledgement of the one-sided distribution, must be employed. Also, keep in mind that this is still way better than the field. Based on averages generated from all teams (including PSU's own performance) PSU was expected to score 156 points and have 8.6 AAs. They beat both those numbers. The only place they missed was that they had 2.7 expected champions. And they were only a TD away from beating that.

I think it was significant and a positive for the sport that Trump attended the finals. I also think that PSU's record points total was overshadowed by a number of things, and that is healthy for the sport. Nebraska fans have to be ecstatic about their overall outperformance, securing second, getting three to the finals, and winning twice. Oklahoma State fans also have to be ecstatic about an upswing to third, three in the finals, two winners, and one of the two most epic upsets in NCAA wrestling history. Iowa fans may be slightly disappointed with fourth place, but three in the finals (extending their decades long streak), with one champ who did it by beating a PSU wrestler is reason for celebration. NC State gets a champ with two more years of eligibility. Illinois wins a title in the year of @ILLINIWrestlingBlog

That page is not updated. Past credentials is no longer one of the criteria. That said, it doesn't really matter what the official criteria are because it is based on a vote. So the criteria are whatever the voters decide they are.

Steveson won a Hodge with one, single, solitary, solo, lonely, singular, non-plural pinfall. Data mic drop.

Oh, now you want to stick to the criteria. Old wind sock ionel, they call you.

Wrestlestat has them. While the Hodge is no longer about pinning (it is not even one of the criteria anymore), I just don't see how it does not go to Pinfalldrickson after that epic upset. Remember it is a vote. And voters will have loved that.

No, it isn't

Feels that way. I did not anticipate that would be a side effect, but it sure is.

Yes, the front row center gets rotated out with both finalists' families for every match.

Just got home. What did I miss?

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How dare you? Take that back.

Thank you to my QA department headed up by @BruceyB for catching an error in scoring. There will be sanctions and fines. Heads will roll, but Brucey is in line for a big promotion. New final results. No change in the order. Take the victory @CHROMEBIRD all that happened was the margin grew.

Oh, shiit. my sum came up one column short. Just missing 7th placement. Dammit.

https://cyclones.com/news/2024/8/14/iowa-state-wrestling-receives-ncaa-trophy.aspx

Briefly. They were shamed into giving Iowa State a fourth place trophy after all, and have since backtracked.

Iowa already has a team trophy locked in at fourth. They can also go as high as third. Oklahoma State can go as high as second or as low as fourth. Nebraska will be second or third.

Congratulations @CHROMEBIRD, winning by the smallest of margins over @flyingcement Two of the best posters on these forums are now the two finest judges of talent. And if you recall from the first post, CHROME took the second longest of shots. The sum of his ten wrestlers' seeds was 237, just one away from @GimJustafan's 238 high total. Let that be a lesson to all those who thought there was gold in the 17/18 hills. Like wrestling, this stuff is hard. So, thank you to all who participated. There is always next year. As for the Dark Horses who made this all possible, Northwestern's Trevor Chumbley shall rule them all. He didn't just put up the highest total, his total was more than the next two wrestlers combined. Coming soo - how each seed performed.

Thx. Finishing up the DHD standings.

McEnelly is the future of 184.