PortaJohn

Rathjen is gassed

Just now, Mr. PeanutButter said:

whatever happens in this match (not a great start), I'm going clubbing with the girlfriends right after

Disco Disco Good Good

Just now, VakAttack said:

My favorite tradition is people insisting there was a pin when they can only see half the body.

That looked like a pin Vak

its 8:30 with 4 matches to go.  Can Amine and Taylor wrap this up

Just now, SocraTease said:

Lewan would show up to a duel with no bullets in his gun.

He would simply wait until his opponent died of old age.

I believe @Interviewed_at_Weehawkentried that

1 minute ago, wrestle87 said:

Does anyone on here know anyone who's wrestled Lewan?  Everyone who gets on the mat with him behaves like they are grabbing a person made of stone.  

Heavy hips & he's phenomenal at squaring up 

15 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

So then more like this?

125: Luke Lilledahl
133: Aaron Nagao / Braeden Davis (RS)
141: Beau Bartlett / Tyler Kasak (RS)
149: Shane Van Ness / David Evans
157: Mitchell Mesenbrink 
165: Alex Facundo / Levi Haines (RS) Joseph Sealey (RS)
174: Carter Starocci / Terrell Barraclough
184: Josh Barr / Zack Ryder (RS)
197: Connor Mirasola / Lucas Cochran
285: Greg Kerkvliet / Cole Mirasola (RS)

Maybe?  But, Starrocci is not coming back and Facundo is not going 165

Hard to imagine we will ever see Braeden Davis back at 125 after this year and Levi Haines at 157 (lots of reports he's struggling with the cut.  

6 minutes ago, jchapman said:

Ok, how about RBY making Desanto tap out?  Reverse Carvered?

That's a good one

23 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

in b4 @ionel says “Messenbrink has a 0% chance of beating Caliendo”

Enjoy ionel but he's not my go to when it comes to wrestling knowledge.  I'll tell you how the match goes.  Caliendo who doesn't have a gas tank is going to be sucking wind by the end of the 2nd period.  The match will look identical to Caliendo vs KOT or Carr

1 hour ago, jchapman said:

Did Brooks get Carvered (or reverse-Carvered)?  Big time swagger in front of loud home crowd, razor close dual meet, gets a little too confident on his shot and gets pinned in a junior high move.

Nah, he was a heavy underdog but to Sammy's credit he left college wrestling with some of it's most iconic moments

3 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

@PortaJohn, @Jimmy Cinnabon can you refresh my memory on the terms of the bet?

Straight up Messenbrink vs Caliendo.  Messenbrink wins Jimmy's gone forever.  Caliendo wins I honorably leave this forum forever.  I am in no way shape or form ducking this bet.  But @Jimmy Cinnabon...most likely 

13 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

If Franek majors Haines and Haines falls apart in the third?  Would that be a Carvering?

Absolutely 

21 minutes ago, ionel said:

@BobDole has gone AWOL.  Even Biden's recent visits with the dead have not encountered the good dead senator.  

He last visited 2 hours ago.  Biggest duck of the season if you ask me

@Wrestleknownothing...I motion to submit my bet with Jimmy to your Summary Docket If it would so please you and the forum.  I also request to file a complaint on @BobDolefor not presiding over my bet and allowing the court of forums to be run like a bar saloon in the old wild West.  

2 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said:

i don't want to be difficult, the conclusion of this paragraph contradicts the introduction. If you want to say its 50 different things fine, i wouldn't because it explains away the meaning of the expression, but you can't say its any number of things and then its a bunch of things which are perfectly balanced. 

Well, I'm not trying to get too metaphorical with this but there are many different ways to make a great stew with different ingredients.  A great stew doesn't always require carrots or potatoes   

13 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

when did a boring out of shape wrestler carver an exciting in shape one? I'm not saying there is nothing to it but style is a bigger part of is being let on.

Carvered is an away wrestler who is heavily favored coming into Iowa City, laying an egg, getting caught for a big move, getting decked, gassing out etc and losing.  Styles can make it more exciting.  Not necessarily disagreeing with you.  It just a perfect stew with lots of ingredients 

41 minutes ago, Dogbone said:

It is not the match style but the environment. 

This right here.  It's one of the main ingredients.  

1 minute ago, Dogbone said:

Alex Meyer beat Mark Hall his freshman year and Meyer wasn't a shootout type guy.    I believe as Hall has told his version his adrenaline was too high to start the match and he gassed by the end not because of Meyer's pace but the environment. Carvered.

That match was 100% Carvered 

It's seems there is a little confusion of what "getting Carvered" is.  For example 1998 returning champ and heavily favored Eric Guerrero is up 6-2 in the 3rd with not much time left, falls apart, and gets beaten by freshman Doug Schwab.  I posted the match below.  Starts @11:00.  It was an electric ending and a "he got Carvered" moment.  Toss up matches, regardless if the away wrestler is ranked higher, in Iowa City do not meet "he got Carvered" criteria.  

                                                              PSU | IA

125 Ayala late takedown in the 3rd           0-3

133 Nagao RT & 2 takedowns                   3-3

141 Woods early TKD sets the tone.         3-6

149 Kasak is better but Carvered?           6-6

157 Who wins in OT?                                 9-6

165 MM breaks Caliendo in the 2nd.       12-6

174 MD for Starr.                                       16-6

184 Arnold's counter D gets him backs  16-9

197 Brooks MD.                                         20-9

HVWT doesn't matter who IA sends.      24-9

The only three on your poll that would meet the "Carvered" criteria are Nagao, Kasak, and Kerk

On 2/3/2024 at 8:22 AM, jackwebster said:

I had to wrestle my step- brother in a ranking match / interested dual. Yada yada 4 months later, my step dad was gone.

Does bio dad love telling this story to his buddies?

9 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Prodigal predictors come home. No questions asked. We will kill the fatted calf.

Apologies WKN.  Struggling with a few match predictions.

3 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

I took a stab at translating this into specific weights, but if you do not want to rely on my interpretive skills...

Are interpretive skills imperative to know something?