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9 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

No clue.  Wait did he enter the Soldier Salute and MFF out without wrestling a match?

I believe so

16 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Ybarra has 2, including 1 over a top recruit.  Not sure if he has made 125 this year though?

Is Ybarra even healthy?

Here you go @Wrestleknownothing (Assuming Haines Wrestles) with bout scores

125 Lee Pin  (1st period) 6-0

133 RBY MDEC (15-6) 6-4

141 Woods Dec  (5-3) 9-4

149 SVN Dec (3-1) 9-7

157 Haines Dec (8-3) 9-10

165 Kennedy Dec (6-4 Sudden Victory)  12-10

174 Starocci MDEC (14-5) 12-14

184 Brooks Dec (9-3) 12-17

197 Dean Dec (5-2) 12-20

HVWT Kerk Dec (7-3) Iowa 12 PSU 23 or 20-15 PSU if Haines shirts

1 minute ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

What are some examples of "technical wrestlers"?

If he want to see the most technical of technical wrestlers then watch B. Satiev

11 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Just a smoke screen.  Murin will go.

This ain't football Jimmy.  Listing Rathjen doesn't change PSU's gameplan

1 minute ago, ionel said:

prob to throw Carl off the secret plan.   We know Lee is the best ever seen, we know Gable could beat everyone in the room through HWT and Lee is better, thus Tom can plug Lee in wherever needed to win the meet.

to throw Carl off the Lee Plan, see above.

Whoa!

Any Iowa insiders know why Caleb Rathjen is listed with Murin as a possible starter at 149?

2 minutes ago, LJB said:

to be fair...

i have made the assertion he is not a technical wrestler...

that seems to be akin to slapping his momma...

apologies all around...

Yeah, gonna have to disagree. He's technically sound

14 minutes ago, Eagle26 said:

I agree with that point and I wish Lee had gone more of the Snyder route. I think if he could’ve stayed healthy, he would be on course to be an all time great, but things did not work out that way, and he is clearly not anywhere near an all time great as far as international accolades. However, I think it’s fair to recognize he has that same talent.

Has anyone actually questioned Lee's talent?  Questioning his strategy to continue to wrestle in college with the injuries he's sustained doesn't make anyone a Lee doubter.  I personally think Spencer has somewhat of a "Iowa savior" complex that might hinder his International career down the road.  

2 minutes ago, Ponzi said:

It pretty much does mean that. Right or wrong, it's the only viable path in this country. Maybe the powers that be could or should create a different path. But until they do, the decision to wrestle in college is the right one for anyone who aims for international success.

Is this actually true?  Henry Cejudo never stepped on a college mat and I'd lay money on Aaron Pico being our rep if he chose Freestyle over MMA with no plans of ever attending college.    

30 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

The way @LJB and others (but primarily LJB) are talking, you would think Spencer Lee retired 6 years ago and we're assessing his career in retrospect.  We all understand he's still wrestling, correct?

What I'm getting from @LJB is he thinks Lee is wasting precious time chasing a 4th title that to him is somewhat meaningless in the grand scheme of things.  Correct me if I'm wrong LJB.

Jimmy yet again starts an entirely new thread on a topic that is already being discussed on a previous thread...

3 minutes ago, LJB said:

personally, i do not care about the BC shenanigans because i know how much a club in russia/hungary/(insert your favorite country here) can benefit from an age level world medal...

the overall benefit far outweighs any perceived slight from a country that does not support its athletes...

I agree.  Also, I think this will change in our lifetime but for now I can't think of one American wrestler that would crack the top 5 of "greatest Russian Freestyle wrestlers of All Time".  10 to 15 years from now I'm confident that will change

Just now, LJB said:

you clearly missed the BC post on the googlewebs years ago that clearly showed he was 3 years older than what some of us thought at the time...

Yes, I missed that.  Only thing I know on the issue is that Russia put his birthdate as May of 1996 which contradicts what he stated on his own page as October of 1994

9 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Sad is the best wrestler on the planet and maybe the best ever.  But he was like 22 when he won juniors.  Not to mention the state sponsored mandated doping.

He won Men's worlds in 2014 for the first time not Juniors.  If you go by his Facebook page birthdate, October 1994, he was 19 years old when he won it  

1 minute ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

My biggest issue is that so many people call "duck" and will for this match, too.

Do you agree?

Anyone calling "duck" is as equally dumb as anyone picking Spencer Lee to beat RBY.

7 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

C) Struggled with Ragusin.

D) He ain't beating Lee at 125

E) He wouldn't beat Lee at the catchweight of 129 either.

Let's hope it actually happens so 'i can laugh at the delusional Spencer Lee fans. Especially when it gets to the 3rd period and Spencer hasnt gotten close to scoring a takedown and is sucking for air

2 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Exactly.  The same as thinking Lee would bump.  (Except that RBY was allegedly training and planning to enter the mix at 57 kg a couple years back)

This Lee vs RBY thing has reached an all time level of stupidity.  A) Both Brands and Cael have shown throughout their coaching careers that duals are meaningless B)  RBY would beat Spencer Lee.  Yes.  He would.  Hes bigger, stronger, longer reach, and much faster.

3 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

How about RBY dropping?

Why would RBY drop?  That's stupid...Stupidity is taking over the pro Lee camp

I'll bite.  He's a 6th year senior dominating against a weak weight class.  The comment about comparing him to the greatest Russians is laughable.  With the current crop of Russians I believe Sadulaev won the world championships at 17 and followed it up with an olympic gold at 18.  

37 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Better wins so far this season.  Tougher on top.

31 minutes ago, MLB9 said:

His best win is over Braunagel, correct? 

12 minutes ago, Le duke said:

He has 0 wins over AAs; Facundo beat Amine and is ranked higher than Kennedy by every ranking service.


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55 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Realistic? Were the Germans realistic when they bombed Pearl Harbor?

All these years I thought it was the Sri Lakans that bombed Pearl Harbor.

20 hours ago, ionel said:

the Pendelton that beat him 5 times

4 minutes ago, BTB1127 said:

7 times over 2 years.

But why wouldnt they just wrestle at their natural weight class at 174?  Is Jimmy holding a gun to their heads?  Also, Jimmy hasn't answered why Ben in his prime has to suck down to a weight class he never wrestled at in college

I know a kid from The Shire, Pennsylvania.  He won PIAA that year with a wizard in the finals.  What was most fascinating is how he neutralized his opponent in the 1st period with an Elf's Bow & Arrow.

57 minutes ago, Pinnacle said:

And since BTN will show them in Row 1 ...

Kyle Snyder has 3? Nolf 3. Zain 3. Probably a few others in attendance as well. 

54 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Nick Lee 2, David Taylor 2

Let's not forget Dake with 4