Jimmy Cinnabon Posted February 9 Posted February 9 They are polar opposites when it comes to build. Bouzakis is a giant 125 pounder - he looks like he would wrestle 157 on full hydration. Lilledahl is a string bean who looks like he could make 118 if necessary. Bouzakis has hulk strength and bearhugged Dean Peterson straight to his back for 7 points to open the match. Lilledahl is speedy and has a gas tank. Bouzakis spends a lot of time on both knees (saving the gas tank?) but was able to wrestle strong for a full 3 periods. I think Lilledahl can win IF he avoids getting thrown to his back as he has been prone to do in the past vs Ohio State. How do you see this match going?
Rassling Posted February 9 Posted February 9 1 hour ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: They are polar opposites when it comes to build. Bouzakis is a giant 125 pounder - he looks like he would wrestle 157 on full hydration. Lilledahl is a string bean who looks like he could make 118 if necessary. Bouzakis has hulk strength and bearhugged Dean Peterson straight to his back for 7 points to open the match. Lilledahl is speedy and has a gas tank. Bouzakis spends a lot of time on both knees (saving the gas tank?) but was able to wrestle strong for a full 3 periods. I think Lilledahl can win IF he avoids getting thrown to his back as he has been prone to do in the past vs Ohio State. How do you see this match going? either way by a point - leaning towards Lilledahl.
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted February 9 Author Posted February 9 4 minutes ago, BarSeries said: Bazooka grabs LL and bends him into a pretzel This could very well be the outcome. Hopefully LL is ready for a first period blitz like Peterson tried against him.
RandolphTJones Posted February 9 Posted February 9 I think LL will try to get into scramble situations. I do believe he will be the aggressor when they dual, not letting Bouzakis try to underhook or toss his around. Bouzakis needs to bring the heavy hand D as he has all year and try to take advantage when he's on top- just like McCrone did last year.
Gene Mills Fan Posted February 9 Posted February 9 If Lilledahl can get to his legs and quickly cut him he will wear him out. If Bazooka gets Lilledahl's head outside on a single or a body lock, even for a mat return you never know.
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted February 9 Author Posted February 9 51 minutes ago, RandolphTJones said: I think LL will try to get into scramble situations. I do believe he will be the aggressor when they dual, not letting Bouzakis try to underhook or toss his around. Bouzakis needs to bring the heavy hand D as he has all year and try to take advantage when he's on top- just like McCrone did last year. That would be a bad idea. Bouzakis is a deadly in scrambles and reverse situations. LL has to finish clean and fast and avoid scrambling.
CHROMEBIRD Posted February 9 Posted February 9 37 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: That would be a bad idea. Bouzakis is a deadly in scrambles and reverse situations. LL has to finish clean and fast and avoid scrambling. Idk, I think Bouzakis is too big for LL, but Lilledal but is a better scrambler. If he can get Nic to fight through scrambles, even if they end in stalemates, his chances get better as the match goes because he has a better gas tank. Ryan should actually push for starting the dual at 133 or some other weight to give Bouzakis a little more recovery time from the scale.
RandolphTJones Posted February 9 Posted February 9 2 minutes ago, CHROMEBIRD said: Idk, I think Bouzakis is too big for LL, but Lilledal but is a better scrambler. If he can get Nic to fight through scrambles, even if they end in stalemates, his chances get better as the match goes because he has a better gas tank. Ryan should actually push for starting the dual at 133 or some other weight to give Bouzakis a little more recovery time from the scale. I do not feel good if Bouzakis scrambles with LL. He is too quick and this wouldn't favor Bouzakis if it was near the end of a match because I guarantee LL's gas tank is much better.
ionel Posted February 9 Posted February 9 2 hours ago, BarSeries said: Bazooka grabs LL and bends him into a pretzel Are we talking home made stone fire oven pretzel? Seems @Coastal and @Caveira missed an easy off ramp here. .
Caveira Posted February 9 Posted February 9 (edited) 22 minutes ago, ionel said: Are we talking home made stone fire oven pretzel? Seems @Coastal and @Caveira missed an easy off ramp here. My son loves home made pretzels. With some nice finishing salt. Get some good good cheese and all the better. careful though. That one dude doesn’t like discussing food. Edited February 9 by Caveira
GV4444 Posted February 9 Posted February 9 I would give edge to Bouzakis. I think the strategy for LL is to stay on his feet the whole match. Forget riding time. It will have no meaning. Avoid Bouzakis' strength which is reversals and the big move. TD, release. Neutral to start 2nd or 3rd. Dispassionate Penn State grad and fan.
Simpleman424 Posted February 9 Posted February 9 I’m pretty sure this might end up being a Kilkeary vs LL match…might not get to see this one until B1Gs.
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted February 9 Author Posted February 9 6 minutes ago, Simpleman424 said: I’m pretty sure this might end up being a Kilkeary vs LL match…might not get to see this one until B1Gs. Why would Bouzakis sit it out? Injury or quack quack?
Caveira Posted February 9 Posted February 9 (edited) 1 minute ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Why would Bouzakis sit it out? Injury or quack quack? Super tired still from not ducking / wrestling in the national duals Edited February 9 by Caveira
Simpleman424 Posted February 9 Posted February 9 1 minute ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Why would Bouzakis sit it out? Injury or quack quack? Bouzakis injured his lower back/hip area in the Iowa dual. No official word on the severity yet but he was hobbling pretty good off the mat. Dudes as tough as they come so I’m sure he wants to go but not sure Ryan will risk it…
mr.nonothingatall Posted February 9 Posted February 9 9 minutes ago, Simpleman424 said: I’m pretty sure this might end up being a Kilkeary vs LL match…might not get to see this one until B1Gs. Idk. Tom Ryan typically doesn't duck anyone in matches that have big veiwership Full of un-bias blasphemy.
CHROMEBIRD Posted February 9 Posted February 9 It would be a surprise/disappointment if tOSU walks Kilkeary out. I gotta believe Ryan really wants to win the B1G team race.
pcostilow Posted February 9 Posted February 9 1 minute ago, mr.nonothingatall said: Idk. Tom Ryan typically doesn't duck anyone in matches that have big veiwership Not saying you're wrong (I'm an Ohio State and TR fan), just chuckling thinking about how much heat he took for sitting Pucillo against Herbert (yes I know that was almost 20 years ago).
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted February 9 Author Posted February 9 2 minutes ago, Simpleman424 said: Bouzakis injured his lower back/hip area in the Iowa dual. No official word on the severity yet but he was hobbling pretty good off the mat. Dudes as tough as they come so I’m sure he wants to go but not sure Ryan will risk it… If he doesn't go it pretty much means Lilledahl gets the #1 seed at Big 10s, unless he gets upset majorly.
Le duke Posted February 9 Posted February 9 I would give edge to Bouzakis. I think the strategy for LL is to stay on his feet the whole match. Forget riding time. It will have no meaning. Avoid Bouzakis' strength which is reversals and the big move. TD, release. Neutral to start 2nd or 3rd. For better or worse, Penn State just doesn’t do that in duals. The coaches want the athletes to feel whatever their opponent might throw at them, rather than going neutral. I believe the thought process behind it is that they might not have the luxury of going neutral in the post season, so might as well see and feel it before the NCAA tournament.At NCAAs, 1000% avoid being on top of or under Bouzakis as long as possible.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
CHROMEBIRD Posted February 9 Posted February 9 2 minutes ago, Le duke said: For better or worse, Penn State just doesn’t do that in duals. The coaches want the athletes to feel whatever their opponent might throw at them, rather than going neutral. I believe the thought process behind it is that they might not have the luxury of going neutral in the post season, so might as well see and feel it before the NCAA tournament. What? PSU does a ton of catch & release in duals. I thought their MO was to run up a bunch of points first and foremost
Le duke Posted February 9 Posted February 9 What? PSU does a ton of catch & release in duals. I thought their MO was to run up a bunch of points first and foremostSee the second part of his statement about avoiding reversals and ignoring riding time.I would be very, very surprised if LL does NOT try to ride Bouzakis in the dual. Why? Because the coaches likely believe he needs to feel that in a relatively meaningless match. At NCAAs? No. Auto-cut.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Simpleman424 Posted February 9 Posted February 9 14 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: If he doesn't go it pretty much means Lilledahl gets the #1 seed at Big 10s, unless he gets upset majorly. That doesn’t really matter…put Bouzakis at 2 then…opposite sides of the bracket either way.
MPhillips Posted February 9 Posted February 9 1 minute ago, Simpleman424 said: That doesn’t really matter…put Bouzakis at 2 then…opposite sides of the bracket either way. .
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