More fraud

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The subsidies were.   And without them the insurance costs go way up higher than they already have.   Obamacare is the quintessential example of government making things worse for everyone.    When you have to pass the bill to see what's in the bill, that is a recipe for disaster, and Obamacare fits that bill. 

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9 minutes ago, mspart said:

The subsidies were.   And without them the insurance costs go way up higher than they already have.   Obamacare is the quintessential example of government making things worse for everyone.    When you have to pass the bill to see what's in the bill, that is a recipe for disaster, and Obamacare fits that bill. 

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excellent point

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16 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

 

and yet you expect people to be able to remove it 

Any law can be repealed... trump and the republicans have been campaigning on repealing the aca for 16 years now yet crickets whenever they have office because they literally can not come up with anything better than the aca

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11 minutes ago, mspart said:

   Obamacare is the quintessential example of government making things worse for everyone.   

conservatives harp on the aca "making things worse for everyone" while the gop flat out refuses to even put out the concepts of what a gop healthcare plan would look like

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27 minutes ago, braves121 said:

Any law can be repealed... trump and the republicans have been campaigning on repealing the aca for 16 years now yet crickets whenever they have office because they literally can not come up with anything better than the aca

 

23 minutes ago, braves121 said:

conservatives harp on the aca "making things worse for everyone" while the gop flat out refuses to even put out the concepts of what a gop healthcare plan would look like

Both of these are valid I think.   The Rs have not provided a better scheme.   But should they or should they just repeal it and let the marketplace do the work of figuring out the best way.  

With Obamacare, each plan has to have everything.   There is no plan for just catastrophic which would be cheaper for the normal Joe.  There is no plan for eliminating certain coverages.   The fact that the O care must cover all these things, that's what raises the costs. 

Without Obamacare, insurance and people can craft the plan that works for them.  This should reduce costs.  

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1 hour ago, braves121 said:

conservatives harp on the aca "making things worse for everyone" while the gop flat out refuses to even put out the concepts of what a gop healthcare plan would look like

i dont disagree.

but remember, who did and did not vote for it.

even dems are whining about it

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5 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

i dont disagree.

but remember, who did and did not vote for it.

even dems are whining about it

Yet republicans will do nothing to fix it 

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lol 

one must affirm they are a citizen

to vote as a non citizen is risking a felony

lol

with all the fraud, the government in minnesota thinks checking a box yes or no is going to keep people from voting

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may 5 order to turn over docs

still refusing

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oldie but a goodie

as 90210 would say

psaki is a known liar

 

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[Offthemat]

20 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

 

Well it's just an accident,  you see.  One hand does the billing and another hand does the reimbursements, so you see,  it's just an accident that we're taking in money with both hands. 

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leftists leftists leftists 

 

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34 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

 

@red viking that’s nearly as much as the USA gives Israel 

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hopefully this actually means something

 

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more you dont hate media enough