Jax Forrest to Wrestle Second Semester for Oklahoma State?

[Fred]

59 minutes ago, BAC said:

That's not what he said.  He just corrected your error.  Don't be a douche.

Ok , how about this. It’s typical to be 19 during part of (at least) your sophomore year of college. It is not typical to be 19 years old and still in high school.

[Truzzcat]

My guess right now is that we see him wrestle through Powerade and then go down to Stillwater until team states and stay from team states through individuals and then go back down.

[B3Maliske]

5 minutes ago, bnwtwg said:

For the same reason as reclassifying - to get to a contract quicker. Now however, there is an NIL contract. And less restrictive rules at the NCAA level than some state high school rules allow.

But the kids reclassifying are usually doing it a full year early. What advantage is there to reclassifying to join for just the second semester vs reclassifying to get the entire year? In football it allows you to participate in spring drills so that makes sense. But in basketball or wrestling, why would anyone do what Jax is doing instead of what the number one recruit in the 2027 basketball class is doing and reclassifying an entire year so he can come in next August?

[B3Maliske]

8 minutes ago, Fred said:

Ok , how about this. It’s typical to be 19 during part of (at least) your sophomore year of college. It is not typical to be 19 years old and still in high school.

I graduated in a class of 80 in 2009. About 15 or so kids in my class, myself included, turned 19 during their senior year of high school. None of us were as old as Jax, the oldest was born in January of 1990, but turning 19 in high school isn't some crazy thing. 

I would say it is much more typical for someone to turn 19 in high school than it is for someone to be 17 when they start college, which Jax would have been if he was a sophomore in college like you said he should be.

[Fred]

45 minutes ago, B3Maliske said:

I graduated in a class of 80 in 2009. About 15 or so kids in my class, myself included, turned 19 during their senior year of high school. None of us were as old as Jax, the oldest was born in January of 1990, but turning 19 in high school isn't some crazy thing. 

I would say it is much more typical for someone to turn 19 in high school than it is for someone to be 17 when they start college, which Jax would have been if he was a sophomore in college like you said he should be.

I’m about 20 years older than you. It wasn’t typical when I was in hs and it usually meant that you had been held back for academic deficiencies. But I’m starting to not doubt what you’re saying. I guess starting your kids a year later than normal so they will have an edge on their peers physically and/or intellectually and emotionally is becoming normalized. Seems like cheating to me and something that should be shamed .

 

I started my sophomore year of college 19. That was typical.

Normally you’re 17 when starting your senior year of hs, not college as you erroneously stated 

Edited November 22, 2025 by Fred

[ionel]

3 minutes ago, Fred said:

I guess starting your kids a year later than normal so they will have an edge on their peers physically and/or intellectually and emotionally is becoming normalized. Seems like cheating to me and something that should be shamed 

Prob not intellectually.  Research shows starting education earlier is beneficial academically/intellectually.  Holding them back is probably a detriment in that area.  19 years old in HS is not normal.  

[CHROMEBIRD]

On 11/19/2025 at 12:24 PM, bnwtwg said:

If Jax Forrest is able to gain immediate eligibility then this will fundamentally alter NCAA participation. Basketball is going to be even worse than it already is at the youth/high school level. It would be ironic if wrestling is the sport that delivers a liver punch to basketball after decades of being second-fiddle.

Early academic qualifiers have been able to reclassify and have immediate NCAA eligibility. It probably won't impact basketball much in this pay for play era because bball has a 15 player roster cap. Too tight for coaches to hold space on a short roster for a high school kid unless the wheels are set in motion far in advance. Wrestling has more flexibility with a 30 person roster. The players' union/CBA (not the NCAA) won't allow college basketball players to play a semester and declare for the draft anyway.

I'm skeptical of even battle-tested guys like Jax going right away in January. The D1 grind plus academics, social, and other college life stuff can be an adjustment for even the best of kids. I assume the plan is for him to not enroll in the fall down the road so he gets that last postseason? But idk if the school can put an athlete on payroll if they're not enrolled at the start of the school year or season? Cornell does the enroll-unenroll strategy because they don't have to deal with NIL complications like that.

[BIGTENFANBOY]

5 hours ago, Fred said:

No, it’s not typical to hold your kids back to give them a competitive advantage in sports. Kinda gross actually.

That's a completely different argument. Your original statement was he should be a college sophomore, which is not true. Age wise he should be a college freshman instead of a high school senior. Please dont move the goal posts. Bottom line is your original statement was exaggerating Jax's age by an additional year.

As for being held back a year for a competitive advantage, I would agree with you, but again, that wasn't the original argument.

[BIGTENFANBOY]

2 hours ago, Fred said:

I’m about 20 years older than you. It wasn’t typical when I was in hs and it usually meant that you had been held back for academic deficiencies. But I’m starting to not doubt what you’re saying. I guess starting your kids a year later than normal so they will have an edge on their peers physically and/or intellectually and emotionally is becoming normalized. Seems like cheating to me and something that should be shamed .

 

I started my sophomore year of college 19. That was typical.

Normally you’re 17 when starting your senior year of hs, not college as you erroneously stated 

Jax started this school year at 18 and turned 19 in October. You started your sophomore year of college at 19 years old (which is typical) which means you turned 20 during that school year, yet you say Jax should currently be a sophomore when he turned 19 during the current year. You expect Jax to be on younger as a sophomore than you were.

[B3Maliske]

2 hours ago, Fred said:

I’m about 20 years older than you. It wasn’t typical when I was in hs and it usually meant that you had been held back for academic deficiencies. But I’m starting to not doubt what you’re saying. I guess starting your kids a year later than normal so they will have an edge on their peers physically and/or intellectually and emotionally is becoming normalized. Seems like cheating to me and something that should be shamed .

 

I started my sophomore year of college 19. That was typical.

Normally you’re 17 when starting your senior year of hs, not college as you erroneously stated 

I didn't say it was normal to start college at 17. I actually said the exact opposite. You said earlier that Jax should be a sophomore in college. If he were a sophomore in college that would mean he started college at 17 as he just turned 19 in October. The only reason I mentioned 17 year old college kids is because that is what you implied Jax should have been. I also didn't say it was typical to turn 19 during your senior year of high school. I was just pointing out that it isn't rare to turn 19 in high school. 

Also I don't know Jax and I would guess you don't either. Maybe he was a bad reader when he was 6 and got held back a year. Maybe he had other educational issues and got held back at a different time. Maybe his parents wanted him to have an advantage in sports and held him back. 

[BIGTENFANBOY]

2 hours ago, Fred said:

I’m about 20 years older than you. It wasn’t typical when I was in hs and it usually meant that you had been held back for academic deficiencies. But I’m starting to not doubt what you’re saying. I guess starting your kids a year later than normal so they will have an edge on their peers physically and/or intellectually and emotionally is becoming normalized. Seems like cheating to me and something that should be shamed .

 

I started my sophomore year of college 19. That was typical.

Normally you’re 17 when starting your senior year of hs, not college as you erroneously stated 

No one is arguing that Jax is the typical age for a high school senior. We are arguing that you said he should be a college sophomore currently which is 100% incorrect. If you said he should currently be a college freshman, 100% of the people who have replied to your statement would agree with you.

[BAC]

21 hours ago, Fred said:

Ok , how about this. It’s typical to be 19 during part of (at least) your sophomore year of college. It is not typical to be 19 years old and still in high school.

How about this.  It's typical to say Forrest was held back a year.  It's not typical to say Forrest was held back two years.

[Fred]

1 hour ago, BAC said:

How about this.  It's typical to say Forrest was held back a year.  It's not typical to say Forrest was held back two years.

Alright already. I didn’t know he had recently turned 19.

[TAC]

On 11/23/2025 at 2:40 AM, B3Maliske said:

It isn't only football. People have been reclassifying to go to college a year early in baseball, basketball, and football for decades. I'm sure it has happened in other sports as well. Bryce Harper got his GED as a junior so that he could play a semester of JUCO baseball and get drafted a year earlier than he otherwise would have been able to be drafted. 

I also genuinely don't understand why any kid would rather reclassify to come in for only one semester, like Jax supposedly is doing, rather than reclassifying so they come in an entire year early. I cannot think of a single reason how it would be better to reclassify a half year early rather than a full year early. Unless you think this may lead to them reclassifying a year and a half early? 

NIL  money

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

7 hours ago, TAC said:

NIL  money

Potentially miss out on a year of NIL money if 5 for 5 is instituted before next season and guys aren't grandfathered in. It also sounds like part of the Forrest family decision is taking this possibility or other 5 for 5 situations into account.,

[Gene Mills Fan]

maybe is he foreseeing using an Olympic red shirt year anyway in 2028. 

[ionel]

10 hours ago, TAC said:

NIL  money

 

2 hours ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Potentially miss out on a year of NIL money

NIL $s may soon be like Social Security Benefits - better collect it while you can.  

[Nak21]

I think the wild Wild West window for NIL has already shut. Feel free anyone to jump in and correct anything I have wrong BUT isn’t it now, anything NIL over like $650 has to go thru a clearinghouse (or committee) to show its fair market value or whatever buzz words they’re using??

I’d imagine that will get challenged and lose in court, especially if you start getting some major college football deals slapped down. But seems big money deals for sports that aren’t football or basketball could be tough to get thru??

And doesn’t revenue sharing start next year? if your university has opted in? And how’s that gonna work? Every athlete gets the same? 3rd string 125, back up goalie on the women’s soccer team and the starting QB in the mix for the Heisman, all get the same amount?? Also it’s revenue sharing. Like 20 some %…tOSU brings in $200M of revenue and Iowa brings in half…tOSU athletes, ie wrestlers, get 2x as much to attend tOSU vs Iowa??

Cant keep this stuff straight, all I know is I’m old and scared and I don’t like any of it.

[boconnell]

6 hours ago, Nak21 said:

I think the wild Wild West window for NIL has already shut. Feel free anyone to jump in and correct anything I have wrong BUT isn’t it now, anything NIL over like $650 has to go thru a clearinghouse (or committee) to show its fair market value or whatever buzz words they’re using??

I’d imagine that will get challenged and lose in court, especially if you start getting some major college football deals slapped down. But seems big money deals for sports that aren’t football or basketball could be tough to get thru??

And doesn’t revenue sharing start next year? if your university has opted in? And how’s that gonna work? Every athlete gets the same? 3rd string 125, back up goalie on the women’s soccer team and the starting QB in the mix for the Heisman, all get the same amount?? Also it’s revenue sharing. Like 20 some %…tOSU brings in $200M of revenue and Iowa brings in half…tOSU athletes, ie wrestlers, get 2x as much to attend tOSU vs Iowa??

Cant keep this stuff straight, all I know is I’m old and scared and I don’t like any of it.

Boosters have been regularly paying athletes for like 40 years.  It's not going to stop because the now toothless NCAA declared they will review NIL deals.  Anybody who wants to pay an athlete will pay an athlete.

[Dark Energy]

‘Should’ needs to be defined.  But I and others were 17 starting HS.  Turned 18 Freshman year in Oct.  Started Sophomore year at 18, turned 19 in October.  Makes Jax a college sophomore if we were neighbors and grew up together in my town and day and age.
 

Now, ‘should’ that be the case?  Trend has been to defer kids a year at Kindergarten signup if born in October.

Parents and Kids are getting soft I say!!!  Crimminy, dang nab-it!

Jax being deferred again beyond that … well, let’s not consider him merely as a HS senior.  Not fair to the other HS guys who aren’t distorting the playing field.  That said, doesn’t change that he is awesome.  
 

Perhaps we call them delayed seniors? Senior seniors?  Super seniors?  Old seniors?  

 

 

[ionel]

2 hours ago, Dark Energy said:

Parents and Kids are getting soft I say!!!  Crimminy, dang nab-it!

My older sister (Nov bd) and older brother (June) were both 17 when graduated high school.  My younger brother (March) and myself (Jan) were 18.  My two sons (Jan & Nov) were 18 and daughter (July) 17 at HS graduation.  

19 not normal. 

All the boys in above were still growing thru So yr college.  Holdback would've been beneficial for athletics but detrimental academics.  

 

2 hours ago, Dark Energy said:

Perhaps we call them delayed seniors? Senior seniors?  Super seniors?  Old seniors?  

HbSr or for some dHbSr.  

Edited November 27, 2025 by ionel

[alex1fly]

3 hours ago, Dark Energy said:

‘Should’ needs to be defined.  But I and others were 17 starting HS.  Turned 18 Freshman year in Oct.  Started Sophomore year at 18, turned 19 in October.  Makes Jax a college sophomore if we were neighbors and grew up together in my town and day and age.
 

Now, ‘should’ that be the case?  Trend has been to defer kids a year at Kindergarten signup if born in October.

Parents and Kids are getting soft I say!!!  Crimminy, dang nab-it!

Jax being deferred again beyond that … well, let’s not consider him merely as a HS senior.  Not fair to the other HS guys who aren’t distorting the playing field.  That said, doesn’t change that he is awesome.  
 

Perhaps we call them delayed seniors? Senior seniors?  Super seniors?  Old seniors?  

 

 

Were you tilling the fields man?? Working the mines?? Turning 18 at the beginning of your freshman year is bananas. That means you graduated high school at 21? 

Edited November 27, 2025 by alex1fly

[bnwtwg]

On 11/26/2025 at 8:18 PM, boconnell said:

Boosters have been regularly paying athletes for like 40 years.  It's not going to stop because the now toothless NCAA declared they will review NIL deals.  Anybody who wants to pay an athlete will pay an athlete.

Bingo. It all comes down to $$.

[Dark Energy]

21 hours ago, alex1fly said:

Were you tilling the fields man?? Working the mines?? Turning 18 at the beginning of your freshman year is bananas. That means you graduated high school at 21? 

Yup, screwed up the start.  College, not HS.  Sorry about that!

Edited November 28, 2025 by Dark Energy

[alex1fly]

2 hours ago, Dark Energy said:

Yup, screwed up the start.  College, not HS.  Sorry about that!

Too late. Forever will you be yearning for the mines