Hodge leaders

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

Current leaders:

1. Jesse Mendez

2. Mesenbrink

3. Lucas Byrd

4. Levi Haines

5. Ben Davino

6. Landon Robideau

7. Angelo Ferarri

 

Eliminated from the list:

1. Vince Robinson

2. Troy Spratley

3. Ayala

4. Richie Figs

5. Brock Hardy

6. Zack Ryder

7. AJ Ferrari

 

[Pinnacle]

Like picking the winner of the Indy 500 after the first lap. 

[Fred]

3 minutes ago, Pinnacle said:

Like picking the winner of the Indy 500 after the first lap. 

In the case of the psu guys at least. Some of the other guys have wrestled 5-8 matches already. That’s like half a season for a psu guy.

[1032004]

4 hours ago, Pinnacle said:

Like picking the winner of the Indy 500 after the first lap. 

Not exactly since it’s almost impossible to win the Hodge if you lose a match.

Angelo won’t win though unless he’s like the only undefeated guy, don’t see his bonus rate being very high.

[Pinnacle]

5 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Not exactly since it’s almost impossible to win the Hodge if you lose a match.

Angelo won’t win though unless he’s like the only undefeated guy, don’t see his bonus rate being very high.

 

Equally impossible to win the Indy 500 after 1 lap. While we know who has already lost and likely unable to win, we don't know who will go unbeaten thru March until we get there. Hence my point. 

[1032004]

8 minutes ago, Pinnacle said:

 

Equally impossible to win the Indy 500 after 1 lap. While we know who has already lost and likely unable to win, we don't know who will go unbeaten thru March until we get there. Hence my point. 

But can you lose the Indy 500 after 1 lap unless you total your car or something?

[MPhillips]

4 hours ago, Fred said:

Some of the other guys have wrestled 5-8 matches already. That’s like half a season for a psu guy.

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

5 hours ago, Pinnacle said:

Like picking the winner of the Indy 500 after the first lap. 

Bad analogy, as others have pointed out.  Winning the Hodge is closer to bowling a perfect game.  Once you throw a gutter ball, it's over.

Recently Hodge winners have been required to be undefeated.

Edited November 17, 2025 by Jimmy Cinnabon

[ionel]

2 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Bad analogy, as others have pointed out.  Winning the Hodge is closer to bowling a perfect game.  Once you throw a gutter ball, it's over.

Recently Hodge winners have been required to be undefeated.

But being on a jimmy hodge list is like trying to bowl a 300 in socks no bowling shoes.  

[Pinnacle]

4 hours ago, 1032004 said:

But can you lose the Indy 500 after 1 lap unless you total your car or something?

Very few do, just as few true Hodge contenders lose this early. Nobody in pastry boy's list is or was a true Hodge contender. 

Additionally, his list orders the contenders which is typical pastry sugar.

[1032004]

42 minutes ago, Pinnacle said:

Very few do, just as few true Hodge contenders lose this early. Nobody in pastry boy's list is or was a true Hodge contender. 

Additionally, his list orders the contenders which is typical pastry sugar.

Jimmy sometimes likes to do mostly serious posts and throw in one or two trolling aspects.  I think it would have been fair to include everyone from the “eliminated” list as a contender prior to this weekend, except for Figueroa, who had already lost.  

I also think he was trolling a bit by only including 7 leaders and including Ferrari, but not others like Vega, who majored one of the guys he says was eliminated

[Pinnacle]

34 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Jimmy sometimes likes to do mostly serious posts and throw in one or two trolling aspects.  I think it would have been fair to include everyone from the “eliminated” list as a contender prior to this weekend, except for Figueroa, who had already lost.  

I also think he was trolling a bit by only including 7 leaders and including Ferrari, but not others like Vega, who majored one of the guys he says was eliminated

I should have written that nobody in pastry boy's list of those eliminated was ever a true contender. His numeric listing was his kind of trolly.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

10 hours ago, Fred said:

In the case of the psu guys at least. Some of the other guys have wrestled 5-8 matches already. That’s like half a season for a psu guy.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

6 hours ago, 1032004 said:

Not exactly since it’s almost impossible to win the Hodge if you lose a match.

Angelo won’t win though unless he’s like the only undefeated guy, don’t see his bonus rate being very high.

I agree, but Angelo has also had one of the toughest early season schedules, as demonstrated by the condition of his face. His bonus rate make pick up a little down the line.

[1032004]

11 minutes ago, Pinnacle said:

I should have written that nobody in pastry boy's list of those eliminated was ever a true contender. His numeric listing was his kind of trolly.

I think that’s debatable.  Outside of Figueroa, the remaining 6 included 1 returning champ, 1 prior champ, 3 returning finalists, and Ryder who many had as a title contender before this weekend (and may still be).

[WrestlingRash]

I heard people here want to give it to Hendrickson again.

[Pinnacle]

6 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I think that’s debatable.  Outside of Figueroa, the remaining 6 included 1 returning champ, 1 prior champ, 3 returning finalists, and Ryder who many had as a title contender before this weekend (and may still be).

It is debateable, but entering NCAAs last year AJ Fetrari was unbearen and in 7th place. Is that a serious legit contender without the 6 in front of him losing?

The top contenders according to most media are Mesenbrink and Haines, and I would add Mendez today. Anyone who wins 133 going unbeaten would get consideration. But if Mesenbrink bonuses the season he is almost assured of winning unless someone else closely matches his record.

[1032004]

9 minutes ago, Pinnacle said:

It is debateable, but entering NCAAs last year AJ Fetrari was unbearen and in 7th place. Is that a serious legit contender without the 6 in front of him losing?

The top contenders according to most media are Mesenbrink and Haines, and I would add Mendez today. Anyone who wins 133 going unbeaten would get consideration. But if Mesenbrink bonuses the season he is almost assured of winning unless someone else closely matches his record.

I agree it wasn’t likely for AJ to win, but I think anyone that had a semi-decent chance of going undefeated for the season can be considered a “contender.”

[NM1965]

On 11/17/2025 at 3:02 PM, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Current leaders:

1. Jesse Mendez

2. Mesenbrink

3. Lucas Byrd

4. Levi Haines

5. Ben Davino

6. Landon Robideau

7. Angelo Ferarri

 

Eliminated from the list:

1. Vince Robinson

2. Troy Spratley

3. Ayala

4. Richie Figs

5. Brock Hardy

6. Zack Ryder

7. AJ Ferrari

 

Angelo Ferrari? I've seen more offense at the geriatric section of the Wrestler's Retirement Home.  Don't you actually have to pin people to win the Hodge? Or if not pin them, then dominate them? 

Edited November 18, 2025 by NM1965

[jchapman]

Metcalf won the Hodge in the same season he was pinned.  Nick Ackerman won the Hodge in the same season he had four losses.

[RandolphTJones]

I think it's so tough to win the Hodge these days when you have 1-2 losses. Similar to when the committee loves to award the Heisman to a player whose team goes undefeated or has 1 loss on the season. 

[Nak21]

Given what we’ve seen out MM and how his matches go, it’s hard to not have him as the clear cut favorite and then everyone else lumped in for 2nd. He’s liable to bonus the season with a large percentage of those being TFs. Levi is probably the 2* of the 2’s given his bonus potential and he pins. Mendez will be in the mix, but not sure he’ll bonus enough. Ferrari - nope. Wrestling from a knee, backing up winning everything 4-1 in SV doesn’t win Hodge trophies - maybe an NCAA champ trophy though. Everyone else on the list, great wrestlers, liable to be a bunch of NCAA champs there but they won’t dominate the score board like MM will/can. 

[BloodRound]

1 hour ago, NM1965 said:

Angelo Ferrari? I've seen more offense at the geriatric section of the Wrestler's Retirement Home.  Don't you actually have to pin people to win the Hodge? Or if not pin them, then dominate them?

Angelo will win the Hodge with a historically low bonus rate by being the last undefeated this season.  Book it now.

[Winners Circle]

On 11/17/2025 at 9:02 AM, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Current leaders:

1. Jesse Mendez

2. Mesenbrink

3. Lucas Byrd

4. Levi Haines

5. Ben Davino

6. Landon Robideau

7. Angelo Ferarri

 

Eliminated from the list:

1. Vince Robinson

2. Troy Spratley

3. Ayala

4. Richie Figs

5. Brock Hardy

6. Zack Ryder

7. AJ Ferrari

 

Yea this weekend was what eliminated those 7 from the list lmao.

[okokzach]

Mendez with another pin tonight