The No Kings protest or better known as the We Hate America Rally. They have lost their power and their relevance.

[JimmySpeaks]

The other 75 million of them are lazy 

[Viratas]

10 hours ago, JimmySpeaks said:

The other 75 million of them are lazy 

Or are 6 feet under and can not make it to the rally, I don't think Zombies are real, are they?

[Paul158]

1 hour ago, Viratas said:

Or are 6 feet under and can not make it to the rally, I don't think Zombies are real, are they?

They are 6 feet under. For sure. Maybe a few are still in their "SAFE SPACES". Do you remember those? 

Edited yesterday at 12:15 PM by Paul158
missed a word

[fishbane]

On 10/19/2025 at 11:40 AM, Caveira said:

I’ve seen this pic / tweet a lot of times.  Is it true ?

 

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/analysis-how-ai-turned-the-boston-common-no-kings-protest-into-fake-news/3830433/

[Scouts Honor]

[Viratas]

53 minutes ago, fishbane said:

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/analysis-how-ai-turned-the-boston-common-no-kings-protest-into-fake-news/3830433/

Yes true, they used the wrong footage

[fishbane]

1 hour ago, Viratas said:

Yes true, they used the wrong footage

Who did?  The article I linked to said the MSNBC footage was correct and from Saturday 10/18/2025.  They said the BBC independently verified this and that the twitter claim originated from Grok, which has since changed its mind.  Here is a quote from the article.

"Grok, the AI tool built by xAI, made a mistake. Asked to verify the footage, it misidentified Saturday's protest as being from 2017, citing "superficial similarities." The bot later corrected itself, but the damage was done. The false claim had already gone viral.

BBC Verify stepped in and confirmed what those of us who were actually here already knew: the footage was authentic. They matched it to drone shots, local news reports from us and other local news outlets.

They even ran reverse image searches. 

The verdict: Saturday's protest was real. The video was indeed from Saturday."

[Viratas]

26 minutes ago, fishbane said:

Who did?  The article I linked to said the MSNBC footage was correct and from Saturday 10/18/2025.  They said the BBC independently verified this and that the twitter claim originated from Grok, which has since changed its mind.  Here is a quote from the article.

"Grok, the AI tool built by xAI, made a mistake. Asked to verify the footage, it misidentified Saturday's protest as being from 2017, citing "superficial similarities." The bot later corrected itself, but the damage was done. The false claim had already gone viral.

BBC Verify stepped in and confirmed what those of us who were actually here already knew: the footage was authentic. They matched it to drone shots, local news reports from us and other local news outlets.

They even ran reverse image searches. 

The verdict: Saturday's protest was real. The video was indeed from Saturday."

Thanks, I had not looked for a few days, you are correct.

[fishbane]

On 10/19/2025 at 8:43 PM, Scouts Honor said:

 

I find it hard to believe that $294M was spent to put on the No Kings Protest.  I am sure it wasn't free, but these numbers are likely misleading if not entirely fabricated.  That tweet is the only place I can find this figure, which ads to my skepticism.  I wonder if Cyber boy counted all money the individuals and organizations in each column gave to any organization associated with any No Kings Rally (rows) and counted it all as the cost of doing the protest.  I'd find that believable, but just because someone gave money to an organization doesn't mean it went to organize the protest. 

Looking at the organizations (rows) with the biggest numbers it isn't that plausible they spent that amount on a single event.  These are non profits that make public filings with the IRS, so we can compare the figures in the table with what they have filed. Looking at some organizations that were the biggest contributors to the rally (ACLU, League of Conservation Voters Inc., etc.) these numbers represent a huge fraction of their annual revenue and expenditures from IRS filings.  

Take the League of Conservation Voters Inc. for example, which according to this table received over $46M across the 6 donor columns and according to the tweet spent it on a "theatrical spectacle."  Looking at the most recent 990 filing the League of Conservation Voters Inc. received $67M in grants and contributions in 2023 and $68M in 2022.  In those years the organization had expenditures of $66M in 2023 and $90M in 2022.  If the tweet is to be believed they spent 2/3 of their entire annual fundraising from 2022 or 2023 on a single event and over 50% of their budget from 2022 or 2023 on a single event.  It just doesn't make sense.  There was another No Kings Rally in June.  Did they spend a similar amount then? Or is this figure supposed to represent the combined cost of the June protest, the 4th of July protest, and the October protest?

I am sure their fund raising has surged somewhat since Trump won the election, but it still doesn't add up.  What were they spending $50M+ on in 2022 and 2023 when there was no protest?  Has their fundraising doubled?  I suspect neither the ACLU nor the League of Conservatoin Voters Inc. spent $40M+ on the No Kings Rally.

[red viking]

6 hours ago, Scouts Honor said:

Nobody is trying to take guns away. Another dumb winger fabrication. 

[Caveira]

1 minute ago, red viking said:

Nobody is trying to take guns away. Another dumb winger fabrication. 

Who is nobody ?

Or to whom is nobody ?   
 

quien no es nadie?

[mspart]

Well, there goes the argument that no one is calling for taking away guns.   I seem to remember Beto O'Rourke saying he would be coming for the AR-15s.   Nope, no one is calling for taking away guns.  

mspart

[WrestlingRasta]

I didn’t really pay much attention to these no kings rallies, on one hand I felt like it’s your time people do what you will with it, on the other hand I definitely think there’s ways to go about that cause that would be more productive.  But a couple of things have stood out to me about them. 
 

One being, why are there people who don’t really care too much about them, but yet wanting to spend their whole weekend yapping about it on an anonymous message board.  That seems to be even a bigger waste of time.  What do you benefit from wasting your weekend?  What’s the personal attraction for that? I mean, as silly as the rallies were, at least those people were out in the cities socializing. Spending your weekend on a keyboard seems even more silly. 
 

But a deeper piece of this that occurred to me, the maga group calling it “we hate America” and the parrots that ran with that slogan.  It was thousands/millions of people who, agree with them or not, were engaging in peaceful protest, speaking out against government policies and actions they feel are wrong.  Is that not the very foundation of how America came to be? 
 

So who really “hates America”, the people who were engaging in the constitutional rights, the very first constitutional right of freedom of speech and expression and peaceful assembly….or the people who have such an issue with those engaging in the very foundations of why this country was founded and the primary principles in which it was founded upon?  I don’t believe anywhere in the constitution it says everyone has to agree in order for freedom of speech and peaceful assembly to take place.  
 

So the question of who truly does hate America is an interesting question that came to me watching this story unfold.  

[JimmySpeaks]

38 minutes ago, red viking said:

Nobody is trying to take guns away. Another dumb winger fabrication. 

Bullshi$.  You’re lying.  AGAIN 

[red viking]

8 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Bullshi$.  You’re lying.  AGAIN 

You're the lying sack of toilet trash and im exposing you yet again. Show me the closest we've ever come from taking non fully auto guns away from law abiding adults in this country.  

Edited 16 hours ago by red viking

[Caveira]

6 minutes ago, red viking said:

You're the lying sack of toilet trash and im exposing you yet again. Show me the closest we've ever come from taking non fully auto guns away from law abiding adults in this country.  

I just posted one.  And your also moving the goal posts saying now non ar

[Caveira]

7 minutes ago, red viking said:

You're the lying sack of toilet trash and im exposing you yet again. Show me the closest we've ever come from taking non fully auto guns away from law abiding adults in this country.  

And don’t pretend they have not tried 

• In 2008, the U.S. Supreme Court struck down a complete handgun ban in Washington, D.C., in the landmark case District of Columbia v. Heller.
• In 2010, the Supreme Court ruled in McDonald v. Chicago that the Second Amendment applies to the states, effectively overturning Chicago's handgun ban.
• In 1981, the village of Morton Grove, Illinois, became the first U.S. community to ban handgun sales and possession. It prompted the National Rifle Association to launch a successful statewide preemption campaign across the country to prevent similar local bans. 

[red viking]

7 minutes ago, Caveira said:

And don’t pretend they have not tried 

 

• In 2008, the U.S. Supreme Court struck down a complete handgun ban in Washington, D.C., in the landmark case District of Columbia v. Heller.
• In 2010, the Supreme Court ruled in McDonald v. Chicago that the Second Amendment applies to the states, effectively overturning Chicago's handgun ban.
• In 1981, the village of Morton Grove, Illinois, became the first U.S. community to ban handgun sales and possession. It prompted the National Rifle Association to launch a successful statewide preemption campaign across the country to prevent similar local bans. 

You proved my point. That's a,far cry from there being any threat to your guns being taken away. 1) Those were local, 2) were struck down/reversed and 3) were all >15 to 45 yrs ago. 

 

[Caveira]

7 minutes ago, red viking said:

You proved my point. That's a,far cry from there being any threat to your guns being taken away. 1) Those were local, 2) were struck down/reversed and 3) were all >15 to 45 yrs ago. 

 

The guy who wants to be mayor of new York is on record he wants to ban all guns boss.   And you proved my point.  They tried many times.  Those are just 3 examples.   They will try again 

[mspart]

1 hour ago, WrestlingRasta said:

I didn’t really pay much attention to these no kings rallies, on one hand I felt like it’s your time people do what you will with it, on the other hand I definitely think there’s ways to go about that cause that would be more productive.  But a couple of things have stood out to me about them. 
 

One being, why are there people who don’t really care too much about them, but yet wanting to spend their whole weekend yapping about it on an anonymous message board.  That seems to be even a bigger waste of time.  What do you benefit from wasting your weekend?  What’s the personal attraction for that? I mean, as silly as the rallies were, at least those people were out in the cities socializing. Spending your weekend on a keyboard seems even more silly. 
 

But a deeper piece of this that occurred to me, the maga group calling it “we hate America” and the parrots that ran with that slogan.  It was thousands/millions of people who, agree with them or not, were engaging in peaceful protest, speaking out against government policies and actions they feel are wrong.  Is that not the very foundation of how America came to be? 
 

So who really “hates America”, the people who were engaging in the constitutional rights, the very first constitutional right of freedom of speech and expression and peaceful assembly….or the people who have such an issue with those engaging in the very foundations of why this country was founded and the primary principles in which it was founded upon?  I don’t believe anywhere in the constitution it says everyone has to agree in order for freedom of speech and peaceful assembly to take place.  
 

So the question of who truly does hate America is an interesting question that came to me watching this story unfold.  

I think this is an interesting take.   I think it is wrong  mostly, but interesting and well put without calling people dum dums or whatever.   

What is the No Kings protest about?   In my opinion, at its core it is a we hate Trump and everything he is doing protest.   Again, there is nothing inherently wrong with that, if Trump is actually doing things that are against the constitution.   And that is up for some debate, although I don't see it.   But that's me. 

What is Trump doing?   

1.   He pardoned Jan 6 people.   I don't agree with letting the folks that assaulted people or property go.   The others ok. 

2.  He wants to trim down the government.   I agree with this.   Not unconstitutional.  

3.  He wants illegal aliens out of the country.   He's going for felons first.  Not unconstitutional. 

4.  He is making a ballroom in the White House.     Not unconstitutional. 

5.  He wants to get cities to be safe.   Not unconstitutional.  NG called in are support only for the police and law enforcement.   They carry no weapons.   DC is much safer and Memphis is reportedly getting much safer.  I don't see this as unconstitutional. 

6.  More to above.   Cities say ICE facilities are not their jurisdiction so the feds need to protect their own.   When Trump moves to protect fed employees and property, the cities cry foul.   See Portland.   This is not unconstitutional. 

So essentially the protesters are saying they are against the ballroom, against safe cities, against protecting federal property, against deporting illegal aliens that are felons, against trimming the government, against pardoning the Jan 6 protesters.  Only the last thing I see has much validity.   They are against a lot more and there may be some debate about that.  But in essence, they are against all the things listed above.   If you are against things, then I would say hate America is not too far off the mark.   If crime ridden cities is what we need to be America, I don't want that America.   If not enforcing immigration laws is what we need to be America, I don't want that America.   

Just my two cents. 

mspart

 

 

 

 

 

[red viking]

1 hour ago, Caveira said:

The guy who wants to be mayor of new York is on record he wants to ban all guns boss.   And you proved my point.  They tried many times.  Those are just 3 examples.   They will try again 

First, he isn't mayor yet. Second, he can't do it alone. 3rd, all the examples u provided are local and a very long time ago. The gun ban movement has almost no traction right now. Even in liberal areas, among liberals. You can fear monger all you want in the winger echo chamber but it isn't grounded in reality at all. Keep enjoying fox news. 

[JimmySpeaks]

2 hours ago, red viking said:

You're the lying sack of toilet trash and im exposing you yet again. Show me the closest we've ever come from taking non fully auto guns away from law abiding adults in this country.  

Hey dipshi$ you said no one is trying to.  Which is bullshi$. Your tifa commie boy punk a$$ has been exposed AGAIN.  

[JimmySpeaks]

2 hours ago, red viking said:

You're the lying sack of toilet trash and im exposing you yet again. Show me the closest we've ever come from taking non fully auto guns away from law abiding adults in this country.  

You still trying to figure out his a politician rids a pension fund????  Bahahahahahahhaha.  You ran away on that one real fast huh skippy????? 

[Paul158]

40 minutes ago, mspart said:

I think this is an interesting take.   I think it is wrong  mostly, but interesting and well put without calling people dum dums or whatever.   

What is the No Kings protest about?   In my opinion, at its core it is a we hate Trump and everything he is doing protest.   Again, there is nothing inherently wrong with that, if Trump is actually doing things that are against the constitution.   And that is up for some debate, although I don't see it.   But that's me. 

What is Trump doing?   

1.   He pardoned Jan 6 people.   I don't agree with letting the folks that assaulted people or property go.   The others ok. 

2.  He wants to trim down the government.   I agree with this.   Not unconstitutional.  

3.  He wants illegal aliens out of the country.   He's going for felons first.  Not unconstitutional. 

4.  He is making a ballroom in the White House.     Not unconstitutional. 

5.  He wants to get cities to be safe.   Not unconstitutional.  NG called in are support only for the police and law enforcement.   They carry no weapons.   DC is much safer and Memphis is reportedly getting much safer.  I don't see this as unconstitutional. 

6.  More to above.   Cities say ICE facilities are not their jurisdiction so the feds need to protect their own.   When Trump moves to protect fed employees and property, the cities cry foul.   See Portland.   This is not unconstitutional. 

So essentially the protesters are saying they are against the ballroom, against safe cities, against protecting federal property, against deporting illegal aliens that are felons, against trimming the government, against pardoning the Jan 6 protesters.  Only the last thing I see has much validity.   They are against a lot more and there may be some debate about that.  But in essence, they are against all the things listed above.   If you are against things, then I would say hate America is not too far off the mark.   If crime ridden cities is what we need to be America, I don't want that America.   If not enforcing immigration laws is what we need to be America, I don't want that America.   

Just my two cents. 

mspart

 

 

 

 

 

Well said. Well said. Thank you.

[Caveira]

25 minutes ago, red viking said:

First, he isn't mayor yet. Second, he can't do it alone. 3rd, all the examples u provided are local and a very long time ago. The gun ban movement has almost no traction right now. Even in liberal areas, among liberals. You can fear monger all you want in the winger echo chamber but it isn't grounded in reality at all. Keep enjoying fox news. 

I don’t watch Fox News.  
 

you said. I’ll quote. “No one is trying to take your guns.”

I don’t know what public school of logic and reasoning you went to but no one means no one.  Your pretty bad at arguing and logic and just resort to yelling into the echo chamber of dumb winger this dumb winger that I embrace political violence bla bla bla 

i didn’t show you Canada confiscating them.   Or England.  I showed you 3 who tried and succeeded temporarily.  And one who is trying now.  I stayed away from politicians who want to take away ar type guns cause you would get all emotional and say things like bla bla moron or stupid or you can’t make this winger stuff up.