Trump gives Argentina $20 Billion in US taxpayer dollars

[red viking]

6 minutes ago, Caveira said:

I would presume this is much higher.   The avg salary according to Google across the whole gov is 106k.  This is Not counting benefits.  401k matches fica health dental bla bla … that is about an additional 40% (benefits).   Plus layoffs are an annuity.    They add up.  Year.  After year.   After year.    

We need more doge and less government.  

Not actually that high considering almost all of the jobs are white collar and require degrees. You gotta be able to compete w pvt sector for these workers. 

[red viking]

7 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

I just stated another fact is all. You don’t and never will like facts because they don’t support your narrative.  

You lie constantly, and support trumps lies. All you do is "tow" the line. Like a lackey. 

[Caveira]

6 minutes ago, red viking said:

Not actually that high considering almost all of the jobs are white collar and require degrees. You gotta be able to compete w pvt sector for these workers. 

White collar workers don’t work for 60k boss.     At least I wouldn’t.   Also add 40% for benefits   

from the Google machine 

• Average federal salary:Before the layoffs, the average federal employee salary was around $106,000 in 2024, but this figure includes a large range of positions. White-collar federal workers averaged about $110,000, while blue-collar workers averaged closer to $70,000.

• High-earning DOGE staff:In contrast to the laid-off employees, some DOGE staff were found to be earning six-figure salaries. This contradicted initial statements from Elon Musk that DOGE compensation would be "zero." For example, some staff working with the GSA were reportedly earning between $120,500 and $195,200 annually.

Edited yesterday at 02:13 PM by Caveira

[JimmySpeaks]

4 minutes ago, red viking said:

You lie constantly, and support trumps lies. All you do is "tow" the line. Like a lackey. 

You may want to check your mirror for the liar.  You’re wokster commie hate America rhetoric pretty much sums your sorry a$$ up. 

[JimmySpeaks]

9 minutes ago, red viking said:

You lie constantly, and support trumps lies. All you do is "tow" the line. Like a lackey. 

Wanna have a contest to see who’s more to the center???   I’m off to the homeless Shelter to serve lunch but I’ll check back around 1:15 pm your time.  Let’s lay out topics one by one and give our responses for the record.  LMK if your game. 

Edited yesterday at 02:19 PM by JimmySpeaks

[red viking]

18 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Wanna have a contest to see who’s more to the center???   I’m off to the homeless Shelter to serve lunch but I’ll check back around 1:15 pm your time.  Let’s lay out topics one by one and give our responses for the record.  LMK if your game. 

You've gone completely off the deep end to the rt. I'm way more moderate than you. Not even close fascist. 

[red viking]

22 minutes ago, Caveira said:

White collar workers don’t work for 60k boss.     At least I wouldn’t.   Also add 40% for benefits   

from the Google machine 

• Average federal salary:Before the layoffs, the average federal employee salary was around $106,000 in 2024, but this figure includes a large range of positions. White-collar federal workers averaged about $110,000, while blue-collar workers averaged closer to $70,000.

• High-earning DOGE staff:In contrast to the laid-off employees, some DOGE staff were found to be earning six-figure salaries. This contradicted initial statements from Elon Musk that DOGE compensation would be "zero." For example, some staff working with the GSA were reportedly earning between $120,500 and $195,200 annually.

Yah, like I said, those salaries aren't that high considering the degrees and expertise they need. Most of them aren't like goon ICE agents. 

[Viratas]

I worked for the Govt. for a long time "High Level of Expertise" should never be used... 

[ionel]

4 minutes ago, Viratas said:

I worked for the Govt. for a long time "High Level of Expertise" should never be used... 

Would "lazy level of detail and commitment" be ok? 

[Viratas]

Just now, ionel said:

Would "lazy level of detail and commitment" be ok? 

Yes, many are not even lazy, many really have nothing to do. 

[Caveira]

9 minutes ago, Viratas said:

I worked for the Govt. for a long time "High Level of Expertise" should never be used... 

agreed. Ha.  But they are compensated well.  
 

City workers make me cranky sometimes.   Pensions.  Second pensions.   Double dipping.   

[Viratas]

1 minute ago, Caveira said:

agreed. Ha.  But they are compensated well.  
 

City workers make me cranky sometimes.   Pensions.  Second pensions.   Double dipping.   

Move to FL, this is where they all move in their 50's with those pensions, then they work for the local govt. here, do it for 7 years and collect another one!

[red viking]

5 minutes ago, Caveira said:

agreed. Ha.  But they are compensated well

They make more in pvt sector, for same level of education and experience. Facts suck. 

[Viratas]

3 minutes ago, red viking said:

They make more in pvt sector, for same level of education and experience. Facts suck. 

100% wrong, long term, when you consider total comp, pension, etc, and the fact that very few work 8 hours, I mean, they are there for 8 hours, but working, not so much. This is not a secret, and every one of my friends who is on the left would even agree. The government is extremely bloated. 

For example, when I worked there, Steve in the Cube next to me had a remarkably simple desk setup, with only a computer, keyboard, and mouse. Oh, and a phone. His phone never rang, and he never typed anything. The only thing he did was attend meetings. Every Friday, he would pick up a state car to drive to his cabin that weekend. This is not made up, 

[ionel]

4 minutes ago, Viratas said:

For example, when I worked there, Steve in the Cube next to me had a remarkably simple desk setup, with only a computer, keyboard, and mouse. Oh, and a phone. His phone never rang, and he never typed anything. The only thing he did was attend meetings. Every Friday, he would pick up a state car to drive to his cabin that weekend. This is not made up, 

... and when he got the DOGE email asking what he did last week he said ... 

[Wrestleknownothing]

This is a nothingburger. This is something the US has done early and often to maintain hegemony of the western hemisphere. It is the Monroe Doctrine. And with China working to build an economic relationship with Argentina, it makes sense to extend an economic lifeline.

The only difficulty is what Trump said the other day about only doing so if Milei's party wins the upcoming election. That raised local concerns in Argentina about US interference in their elections. Well, of course, but you just don't say it out loud.

The US has been buying an undetermined amount of pesos in the open market for a few weeks to support their currency. So now we use dollars to buy pesos directly from the Argentine government, and work with others to do the same. The government can then use the dollars to retire debt, or support their currency with open market purchases, or whatever it is we prefer they do. 

Bessent even opened the possibility that the US will buy up some Argentine debt, which has a long proud history of default. Think of it as the cost of doing business and maintaining influence in the west.

 

[Caveira]

36 minutes ago, Viratas said:

Move to FL, this is where they all move in their 50's with those pensions, then they work for the local govt. here, do it for 7 years and collect another one!

I’ll be retiring young ish.   When my kids get into college.  I will not be retiring in Chicago or cook county.   Soon soon!!!!  

[Bigbrog]

2 hours ago, red viking said:

Not actually that high considering almost all of the jobs are white collar and require degrees. You gotta be able to compete w pvt sector for these workers. 

LOL...you post this crap and then turn around and try and argue about "lying"...can't make this stuff up.

Approximately 27.5% of federal jobs have a positive education requirement, meaning a degree is mandatory for performing the duties. However, a different statistic indicates that about 70% of federal jobs do not require a college degree, and many can be entered with a high school diploma or work experience. 

[red viking]

14 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

LOL...you post this crap and then turn around and try and argue about "lying"...can't make this stuff up.

Approximately 27.5% of federal jobs have a positive education requirement, meaning a degree is mandatory for performing the duties. However, a different statistic indicates that about 70% of federal jobs do not require a college degree, and many can be entered with a high school diploma or work experience. 

Technically, that may be true because experience can substitute for a degree, but it's virtually impossible to get the required experience w o the degree anyway. So, in reality, you need a degree for these jobs. Good luck getting qualified workers w lower pay (except we should give all ICE goons big pay cuts), especially w how they are treated by this admin. The data proves that govt workers, on avg, alresdy make LESS than pvt sector workers w similar education and experience. 

[mspart]

What happened to Argentina?   I thought that was the subject of this thread.

mspart

[red viking]

19 minutes ago, mspart said:

What happened to Argentina?   I thought that was the subject of this thread.

mspart

Wingers deflect like always because they can't defend this bailout. 

Edited 23 hours ago by red viking

[Viratas]

21 minutes ago, mspart said:

What happened to Argentina?   I thought that was the subject of this thread.

mspart

[JimmySpeaks]

3 hours ago, red viking said:

You've gone completely off the deep end to the rt. I'm way more moderate than you. Not even close fascist. 

Sure thing tifa boy.  So as I figured.  You’re all talk.  

[JimmySpeaks]

3 hours ago, red viking said:

They make more in pvt sector, for same level of education and experience. Facts suck. 

More baseless false information from comrade Rv 

[red viking]

17 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

More baseless false information from comrade Rv 

Look it up. The data is easily accessible