Jimmy Cinnabon Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 6 hours ago, Mike Parrish said: That's an attempt to injure. I'd cut them from the team. If this someone did that to me during my career, I'd have broken his fingers. So you would have cut Desanto too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted January 31, 2023 Author Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ponzi said: Just to review, I honestly could not tell from the video want the NC kid did. Also, was he DQed on the first offense of the match or the second (or third) offense? Can someone please explain? He had an overhook and tried to bend the elbow up and against the joint. He did it twice in the Chattanooga clip, you can see the Chattanooga wrestler shaking his arm out after the first time when the ref couldn't really see it and then he does it again and the match is stopped and the Chattanooga wrestler is awarded a penalty point. But Fernandes actually won this match 6-2. It doesn't appear any prior penalty points were awarded in the SDSU clip. But right in the beginning he appears to try to twist his fingers, then also of course the multitude of slaps to the head, the most egregious of which I thought was right after the restart after the ref was talking to them. Technically, I'm not sure if he was DQ'ed right away for the elbow thing. It appears as if he was penalized for an illegal move which resulted in an injury to Cook who did not continue, thus ultimately resulting in the DQ. Edited January 31, 2023 by 1032004 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, 1032004 said: He had an overhook and tried to bend the elbow up and against the joint. He did it twice in the Chattanooga clip, you can see the Chattanooga wrestler shaking his arm out after the first time when the ref couldn't really see it and then he does it again and the match is stopped and the Chattanooga wrestler is awarded a penalty point. But Fernandes actually won this match 6-2. It doesn't appear any prior penalty points were awarded in the SDSU clip. But right in the beginning he appears to try to twist his fingers, then also of course the multitude of slaps to the head, the most egregious of which I thought was right after the restart after the ref was talking to them. Technically, I'm not sure if he was DQ'ed right away for the elbow thing. It appears as if he was penalized for an illegal move which resulted in an injury to Cook who did not continue, thus ultimately resulting in the DQ. He did this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted January 31, 2023 Author Share Posted January 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: He did this: I saw people bringing this up on twitter but I didn't know who these people were. Apparently that Youtube video has 3.5 million views... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkemaz Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 9 hours ago, LJB said: i am not sure you understand what berate actually means... This is your other tactic where you try to nitpick or change the subject. I've seen your hot takes and they are bad. You called Spencer a future has been then jumped all over someone in this thread for calling someone out for bad sportsmanship. Go back to the freestyle forum you don't even like folkstyle. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Just now, forkemaz said: This is your other tactic where you try to nitpick or change the subject. I've seen your hot takes and they are bad. You called Spencer a future has been then jumped all over someone in this thread for calling someone out for bad sportsmanship. Go back to the freestyle forum you don't even like folkstyle. you have no clue what berate means... but... thanks for playing... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkemaz Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Just now, LJB said: you have no clue what berate means... but... thanks for playing... Stalling LJB 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82bordeaux Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: So you would have cut Desanto too? Well, they actually did. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 5 hours ago, Formally140 said: To be fair… that sort of event helps the “brand” you push out. Which I’m sure is you. Mostly like i said, no one thought anything of it... it wasn't just me... but, yes... greco guys clearly have have a different perspective... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 33 minutes ago, 1032004 said: I saw people bringing this up on twitter but I didn't know who these people were. Apparently that Youtube video has 3.5 million views... It is a UFC contender at the 205 division and a BJJ World Champ whom just recently passed away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 25 minutes ago, 82bordeaux said: Well, they actually did. Desanto upgraded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82bordeaux Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 15 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Desanto upgraded Debatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, 82bordeaux said: Debatable. he is another "iredeemable" wrestler by these standards who somehow was redeemed and able to continue to compete... even to this day... i would say that is an upgrade... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 11 minutes ago, 82bordeaux said: Debatable. Drexel to Iowa? Debatable huh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Reminds me of a move Mark Schultz used against a Turkish wrestler. Broke his arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 10 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said: Your alter-ego JackrabbitFan239 seems to have called it a night. Maybe you need to fire that username up to start posting again... not sure if that would make you more or less pathetic, but fire it up. We'll see. LJB doesn't need anyone to stand up for him, but I highly doubt that he would go so far as to create a fake account to troll. 1. He has absolutely no qualms about making controversial arguments and putting his name on them. He is also one of the few posters on the sites that is not anonymous. He is not shy about his opinions and probably doesn't care very much what anonymous posters think of him. 2. He is unlikely to know the mascots of smaller programs that wrestle collegiately. He may not even know some of the mascots of perennial top 5 schools. He is more concerned with Roman Vlasov and Islam Duguchev than "the Big Red" or the "jackrabbits" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 to be fair... i know the jackrabbits as a mascot... **GOLD STAR** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 hell... i have even seen a jackrabbit in real life... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackrabbitFan239 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 I am just a simple jackrabbit fan who enjoys hard wrestling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted January 31, 2023 Author Share Posted January 31, 2023 7 hours ago, LJB said: my 19 year old at the US open senior finals last year got fish hooked by an olympian... totally on purpose and done to prove a point because my kid is who he is... i did not notice it live because of my angle mat side... showing him hours later his comment... "that's awesome... can i do that?" none of us thought to manufacture any outrage... none of us thought to make some impassioned post on a silly bbs... none of us even contemplated that ildar was dirty or a punk or irredeemable... we all saw it as eastern european lessons of respect to a young cocky kid... a fish hook... imagine what some of you all would have thought about that... but, please... do carry on... Well for one, trying to break someone's elbow is worse than a fish hook... Also, haven't other wrestlers complained about Burroughs' hand fighting for example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, 1032004 said: Well for one, trying to break someone's elbow is worse than a fish hook... Also, haven't other wrestlers complained about Burroughs' hand fighting for example? what is a fishhook trying to do? why has it been illegal in all forms of combat sports since sports? the point is not about the move being illegal or not... the point is not about "dirty" wrestling... the point is not about sportsmanship... the point is some anonymous dude on the internet called a kid "irredeemable" and felt really good about himself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 21 minutes ago, LJB said: hell... i have even seen a jackrabbit in real life... who hasn't but ... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 you think i am unfamiliar with the ever elusive jackalope? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted January 31, 2023 Author Share Posted January 31, 2023 10 minutes ago, LJB said: what is a fishhook trying to do? why has it been illegal in all forms of combat sports since sports? the point is not about the move being illegal or not... the point is not about "dirty" wrestling... the point is not about sportsmanship... the point is some anonymous dude on the internet called a kid "irredeemable" and felt really good about himself... Yes a fishhook is dirty and illegal. But this topic is about the "dirtiest," and a fishhook isn't the dirtiest thing that can be done in wrestling. This Fernandes guy is up there though, although I agree calling him "irredeemable" is unnecessary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 9 hours ago, Perry said: Another classless display this time from Iowa state.. I remember when Real Woods was the villain because of his reaction to some Swiderski antics that occurred after the match was decided... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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