Free Speech, Hate Speech and...

[vsnej]

chronic Foot In Mouth disease...

[Wrestleknownothing]

Or what irony is?

[jross]

The good news is that many people seem in alignment that she screwed up.  Better news is that she addressed it.

[mspart]

Yes, she messed up when she said she would go after hate speech.   That's left wing crap.  But speech threatening violence upon individuals is a different matter.  

mspart

[vsnej]

2 hours ago, mspart said:

Yes, she messed up when she said she would go after hate speech.   That's left wing crap.  But speech threatening violence upon individuals is a different matter.  

mspart

“She’s a radical war hawk. Let’s put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her, OK?” the former president said at a campaign event in Glendale with former Fox News host Tucker Carlson. “Let’s see how she feels about it, you know, when the guns are trained on her face.”

- the fat man "threatening" Rep. Liz Cheney

[Offthemat]

43 minutes ago, vsnej said:

the fat man "threatening" Rep. Liz Cheney

Lie

[wrestlingguy]

51 minutes ago, vsnej said:

“She’s a radical war hawk. Let’s put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her, OK?” the former president said at a campaign event in Glendale with former Fox News host Tucker Carlson. “Let’s see how she feels about it, you know, when the guns are trained on her face.”

- the fat man "threatening" Rep. Liz Cheney

He was referring to the fact that she wouldn’t fight in a war herself. She loves the profits of war. Lefties always leave out the context or provide half quotes.

[mspart]

Righties do it too if it serves their purpose.   Lefties do it more, I would agree.   It's their MO.  

mspart

[Tripnsweep]

14 minutes ago, wrestlingguy said:

He was referring to the fact that she wouldn’t fight in a war herself. She loves the profits of war. Lefties always leave out the context or provide half quotes.

Kind of like how Trump talks tough but chickened out of serving in the military when he has the chance. 

[Caveira]

7 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

Kind of like how Trump talks tough but chickened out of serving in the military when he has the chance. 

Biden got 5 deferments if I remember correctly …. for asthma.    Tough sob ha 

[vsnej]

36 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

Lie

He is definitely fat

[mspart]

3 minutes ago, vsnej said:

He is definitely fat

And that means what exactly?    Pritzker is fat.   Does that mean he is as bad as Trump in your opinion?

mspart

[wrestlingguy]

18 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

Kind of like how Trump talks tough but chickened out of serving in the military when he has the chance. 

Trump didn’t profit off of the war like Dick Cheney and his family was the point.

[Gene Mills Fan]

15 hours ago, vsnej said:

 

- the fat man "threatening" Rep. Liz Cheney

I think when the Dems tried this particular spin; everyone realized this is and has been their consistent tactic. Unfortunately for them everyone watched the entire interview and then knew who was really doing the spinning.

[vsnej]

5 hours ago, Gene Mills Fan said:

I think when the Dems tried this particular spin; everyone realized this is and has been their consistent tactic. Unfortunately for them everyone watched the entire interview and then knew who was really doing the spinning.

...yeah, spinning

 

[Gene Mills Fan]

3 hours ago, vsnej said:

...yeah, spinning

 

Funny how according to the polls Kamala was passing Trump before and until Nov 2 2024 the relevelant time pertaining to my comment about Cheney rebuttals and opinion changing;  and then what happened?

Oh and didn't Iowa flip just before this? A little loony on their part! 

[Paul158]

On 9/18/2025 at 2:40 PM, Tripnsweep said:

Kind of like how Trump talks tough but chickened out of serving in the military when he has the chance. 

I have a hard time finding fault with anyone who tried to stay out of going to Vietnam. The worst military debacle in American history. 58,281 names on the Wall in Washington DC. Over 94,000 Vietnam vets died from suicide after coming home. Over 300,000 died from being sprayed with Agent Orange and ingesting it in their food and water. To top it off they were treated (by Americans) like dirt when they arrived home from Vietnam. The way our leadership had our military fight the war the war was criminal. Read up on it. One of the awards I received in high school was in honor of a former wrestler who was killed in Vietnam. 

[Tripnsweep]

44 minutes ago, Paul158 said:

I have a hard time finding fault with anyone who tried to stay out of going to Vietnam. The worst military debacle in American history. 58,281 names on the Wall in Washington DC. Over 94,000 Vietnam vets died from suicide after coming home. Over 300,000 died from being sprayed with Agent Orange and ingesting it in their food and water. To top it off they were treated (by Americans) like dirt when they arrived home from Vietnam. The way our leadership had our military fight the war the war was criminal. Read up on it. One of the awards I received in high school was in honor of a former wrestler who was killed in Vietnam. 

My mom's husband was in Vietnam. He passed away several years ago, due to cancer from something he was around over there. He had some violent dreams where he'd sometimes wake up and think he was still there. We never knew exactly what he did there. He always said he was a clerk, but sometimes he would tell these very vivid stories about his experience, I think maybe he just didn't want my mom to know, so I always figured he had done some pretty bad things over there. He just never told me what he really was doing. And I know he was disillusioned with war after being there. 

He also hated Trump with a passion. His reason is pretty much the same as mine. Trump talks tough, says he knows more about the military than anybody, criticized the military when he wasn't in office, makes stupidly bold claims and denigrates actual war heroes like McCain. Yet when he was presented with a chance to back it up, and I think we can all pretty much guess Trump's personality isn't much different than it was, he chickened out. McCain served and he could have avoided it. If Biden had said the same things, or even Clinton, the right wouldn't have let them hear the end of it. 

Yet Trump acts like he's a tough guy when he is just a coward. 

[Caveira]

15 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

My mom's husband was in Vietnam. He passed away several years ago, due to cancer from something he was around over there. He had some violent dreams where he'd sometimes wake up and think he was still there. We never knew exactly what he did there. He always said he was a clerk, but sometimes he would tell these very vivid stories about his experience, I think maybe he just didn't want my mom to know, so I always figured he had done some pretty bad things over there. He just never told me what he really was doing. And I know he was disillusioned with war after being there. 

He also hated Trump with a passion. His reason is pretty much the same as mine. Trump talks tough, says he knows more about the military than anybody, criticized the military when he wasn't in office, makes stupidly bold claims and denigrates actual war heroes like McCain. Yet when he was presented with a chance to back it up, and I think we can all pretty much guess Trump's personality isn't much different than it was, he chickened out. McCain served and he could have avoided it. If Biden had said the same things, or even Clinton, the right wouldn't have let them hear the end of it. 

Yet Trump acts like he's a tough guy when he is just a coward. 

Who are the last two presidents to serve.  I bet you won’t write them down.  

[Offthemat]

46 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

Yet Trump acts like he's a tough guy when he is just a coward. 

He stood up pretty well when he got shot.   We don’t need any stories about anyone you’ve known being shot. 

[Caveira]

9 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

He stood up pretty well when he got shot.   We don’t need any stories about anyone you’ve known being shot. 

I’m sure he has one.  He has a friend for just about every story.  Maybe he’s waiting for his chat gpt credits to recycle.  That Or googling the last two presidents to serve in the military.  

Edited 57 minutes ago by Caveira

[red viking]

10 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

He stood up pretty well when he got shot.   We don’t need any stories about anyone you’ve known being shot. 

IT GRAZED HIS EAR! YOU KIDDING ME??

[red viking]

On 9/18/2025 at 4:48 PM, Caveira said:

Biden got 5 deferments if I remember correctly …. for asthma.    Tough sob ha 

So he had a physical issue. Trump was just a coward though. 

[Caveira]

16 minutes ago, red viking said:

So he had a physical issue. Trump was just a coward though. 

People forged papers to join early / under 18.  People hid their ailments to join.  That physical ailment (asthma) is laughable boss.  What was Obama and Clintons excuse?      Did one of them write letters to the draft board to help save them from the draft.   I’ll save you a Google one of them did.  And he had as many if not more deferments that Biden did.