WTF Charlie

[Paul158]

5 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Those young people on college campuses are all eligible voters. They’re in college because they’re supposed to be smart right?  

Then they get indoctrinated by the liberal professors for 4 years at these colleges. Most colleges will not let a conservative speaker on the campus. We the taxpayer heavily subsidize these colleges and these professors.

[uncle bernard]

Murder is wrong. This is (another) bad day for our country. 

You can add all sorts of obvious qualifiers to his murder -- his entire career was built on intentionally provoking people, he's defended gun violence as a necessary evil (which he was doing in the moments leading up to his murder), etc... But it's still WRONG, so what's the point? Yesterday was a step in the wrong direction for our country. End of story.

[JimmySpeaks]

3 minutes ago, Paul158 said:

Then they get indoctrinated by the liberal professors for 4 years at these colleges. Most colleges will not let a conservative speaker on the campus. We the taxpayer heavily subsidize these colleges and these professors.

Sadly, I think what happened is going to cause more colleges to deny these events due to security issues. 

[uncle bernard]

1 minute ago, Paul158 said:

Then they get indoctrinated by the liberal professors for 4 years at these colleges. Most colleges will not let a conservative speaker on the campus. We the taxpayer heavily subsidize these colleges and these professors.

Not actually true, as Charlie Kirk's career -- entirely built on speaking at universities all across the country -- shows. He was speaking at Harvard only a few months ago.

[jross]

1 hour ago, bnwtwg said:

Appreciate your honesty that you believe that dead children are worth it.

weak!

[WrestlingRasta]

My hope last night was that this would turn out to be a wake up call to all of us that it is not the "woke libtards" or the 'maga wingers'  that are brining our country down, but it is the hatred for different views and inability to talk to each other and understand that listening doesn't have to equal agreeing, but it is how real true progress is made and how things become great.   It is literally the foundation of how we became the greatest nation in the world.  And hoping that we would wake up this morning in remembrance in that dark day 24 years ago when we all did forget about R/D, red/blue, left/right, and it hit us in a violent way they we are all in this together, and try to get back to that again. 

 

I see this morning that many on this board are not having that wake up moment, along with many you see commenting under news articles and posting on social media.   It really is sick.  People want to convince themselves they are 'fighting the good fight' when all they are doing is contributing to destruction.  Charlie once said when we stop talking to each other is when the violence starts.   We are seeing that more and more and more.  We will come to a point eventually where it is realized that constantly looking to fight and vilify the 'other side' will be the doom of our great nation, the history books give us all the evidence.  I just hope that point comes before, instead of after, it happens.  I for one just can't stand to see it anymore.  

[Offthemat]

16 hours ago, braves121 said:

There is such a thing called nuance in situations like this. Yea it sucks someone died but the same person also said gun deaths are worth it for 2A rights right after a school shooting, and went to places to debate people much younger than him and say inflammatory things. In this country you have the right to free speech but not freedom of consequences from said speech. Also crazy that he was being asked about mass shootings before he was shot

@Tripnsweep, @red viking, and @bnwtwg need to be tagged into this, unquoted. 
 

Your defense of this occurrence is despicable, disgusting, and misguided.  This was not an act of gun violence, gang violence, or a loser’s defiant going out but taking some others with me.  It has all the hallmarks, and will likely be found to be a planned political assassination, an act of terrorism.  
 

Charlie Kirk was a kind caring man who, beginning as a youth, himself, reached out to inform other young people of the common sense truth, countering the godless indoctine they were being exposed to.  A profoundly religious man, he he gave younger folks the confidence and comfort to indulge their own spirituality.  He taught by asking questions or debating all comers; students; grad students; perfessors; alike.  He spoke respectfully to people, if not their ideas.  I challenge anyone to post evidence to the contrary.  It was a kind of motto for him to say that when the talking stops, the violence begins. 
 

Charlie Kirk is being recognized as a giant.  Nobody even knew who the Hortmans were until they were killed by a nut.  Once again, Charlie Kirk was a giant.  You fellas are not. 
 

Heaven is a better place today. 

Edited 8 hours ago by Offthemat

[Tripnsweep]

12 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

@Tripnsweep, @red viking, and @bnwtwg need to be tagged into this, unquoted. 
 

Your defense of this occurrence is despicable, disgusting, and misguided.  This was not an act of gun violence, gang violence, or a loser’s defiant going out but taking some others with me.  It has all the hallmarks, and will likely be found to be a planned political assassination, an act of terrorism.  
 

Charlie Kirk was a kind caring man who, beginning as a youth, himself, reached out to inform other young people of the common sense truth, countering the godless indoctine they were being exposed to.  A profoundly religious man, he he gave younger folks the confidence and comfort to indulge their own spirituality.  He taught by asking questions or debating all comers; students; grad students; perfessors; alike.  He spoke respectfully to people, if not their ideas.  I challenge anyone to post evidence to the contrary.  It was a kind of motto for him to say that when the talking stops, the violence begins. 
 

Charlie Kirk is being recognized as a giant.  Nobody even knew who the Hortmans were until they were killed by a nut.  Once again, Charlie Kirk was a giant.  You fellas are not. 
 

Heaven is a better place today. 

He was a professional troll who made a living being a jerk to people. His own words and supposed beliefs led to this. Kind of ironic it happened this way, because of his previous statements on gun violence. I'm not sad he's gone but not joyful about it either. Just indifferent and more interested in who and why. 

[red viking]

18 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

@Tripnsweep, @red viking, and @bnwtwg need to be tagged into this, unquoted. 
 

Your defense of this occurrence is despicable, disgusting, and misguided.  This was not an act of gun violence, gang violence, or a loser’s defiant going out but taking some others with me.  It has all the hallmarks, and will likely be found to be a planned political assassination, an act of terrorism.  
 

Charlie Kirk was a kind caring man who, beginning as a youth, himself, reached out to inform other young people of the common sense truth, countering the godless indoctine they were being exposed to.  A profoundly religious man, he he gave younger folks the confidence and comfort to indulge their own spirituality.  He taught by asking questions or debating all comers; students; grad students; perfessors; alike.  He spoke respectfully to people, if not their ideas.  I challenge anyone to post evidence to the contrary.  It was a kind of motto for him to say that when the talking stops, the violence begins. 
 

Charlie Kirk is being recognized as a giant.  Nobody even knew who the Hortmans were until they were killed by a nut.  Once again, Charlie Kirk was a giant.  You fellas are not. 
 

Heaven is a better place today. 

If wingers like you and Trumptard fail to denounce murders of liberals (like hortman) then I'm not gonna do the same for wingers. Trump started a,war with his ambivalence (even saying "we love you") toward right wing violence and going out of his way to piss off and target the left. 

[El Luchador]

1 minute ago, red viking said:

If wingers like you and Trumptard fail to denounce murders of liberals (like hortman) then I'm not gonna do the same for wingers. Trump started a,war with his ambivalence (even saying "we love you") toward right wing violence and going out of his way to piss off and target the left. 

Except that doesn't happen. You're confusing reality with your Straw man.

[JimmySpeaks]

5 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

He was a professional troll who made a living being a jerk to people. His own words and supposed beliefs led to this. Kind of ironic it happened this way, because of his previous statements on gun violence. I'm not sad he's gone but not joyful about it either. Just indifferent and more interested in who and why. 

The only who and why you need to answer is…….   why you’re such a giant piece of shi$ and who will be the lucky one that gets to deliver you your karma Sammich????  

[bnwtwg]

19 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

@Tripnsweep, @red viking, and @bnwtwg need to be tagged into this, unquoted. 
 

Your defense of this occurrence is despicable, disgusting, and misguided.  This was not an act of gun violence, gang violence, or a loser’s defiant going out but taking some others with me.  It has all the hallmarks, and will likely be found to be a planned political assassination, an act of terrorism.  
 

Charlie Kirk was a kind caring man who, beginning as a youth, himself, reached out to inform other young people of the common sense truth, countering the godless indoctine they were being exposed to.  A profoundly religious man, he he gave younger folks the confidence and comfort to indulge their own spirituality.  He taught by asking questions or debating all comers; students; grad students; perfessors; alike.  He spoke respectfully to people, if not their ideas.  I challenge anyone to post evidence to the contrary.  It was a kind of motto for him to say that when the talking stops, the violence begins. 
 

Charlie Kirk is being recognized as a giant.  Nobody even knew who the Hortmans were until they were killed by a nut.  Once again, Charlie Kirk was a giant.  You fellas are not. 
 

Heaven is a better place today. 

I am not defending the murder of anyone, ever. I said this is a logical outcome after our country had a final chance at coming together nearly 30 years ago but instead splintered to the point of no return where we are now.

 

Where was this energy for all the school shootings? 
 

If you want to play the politics game, where was this energy when the MN Speaker of the House and her husband, and a MN state senator were murdered?

I wish that this would be the a-ha moment where everyone collectively says enough is enough. But I wasn't born yesterday, I know that things are going to become more radicalized and get worse.

[red viking]

2 minutes ago, El Luchador said:

Except that doesn't happen. You're confusing reality with your Straw man.

Show me where Trump denounced the hortman murder

[JimmySpeaks]

1 minute ago, red viking said:

Show me where Trump denounced the hortman murder

After you denounce the Kirk murder. 

[JimmySpeaks]

7 minutes ago, bnwtwg said:

I am not defending the murder of anyone, ever. I said this is a logical outcome after our country had a final chance at coming together nearly 30 years ago but instead splintered to the point of no return where we are now.

 

Where was this energy for all the school shootings? 
 

If you want to play the politics game, where was this energy when the MN Speaker of the House and her husband, and a MN state senator were murdered?

I wish that this would be the a-ha moment where everyone collectively says enough is enough. But I wasn't born yesterday, I know that things are going to become more radicalized and get worse.

That face you make when someone says “if you want to play the politics game”   While they’re playing the politics game.  

[red viking]

3 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

After you denounce the Kirk murder. 

Lmfao. He's the president. He should show some leadership. His failure to do so is why we have a,war and liberals are fighting back. 

[JimmySpeaks]

Just now, red viking said:

Lmfao. He's the president. He should show some leadership. His failure to do so is why we have a,war and liberals are fighting back. 

Actually Obama is why we have Trump and a war. Biden too.  Wokesters better be careful. 

[El Luchador]

5 minutes ago, red viking said:

Show me where Trump denounced the hortman murder

If I did you wouldn't change your lies, you'd just deny it. Like the whole lies about the very fine people. Knowing the truth has never changed the behavior of a leftist. 

[El Luchador]

9 minutes ago, red viking said:

Show me where Trump denounced the hortman murder

Here is an NBC clip stating he condemned to shooting.

 

 

 

 

[JimmySpeaks]

7 minutes ago, El Luchador said:

Here is an NBC clip stating he condemned to shooting.

 

 

 

 

Oh oh RV eating some crow.  Time to man up and denounce the Kirk murder like you said you would if Trump did.  

[jross]

Back in my day we beat people with a cane. - Preston Brooks, 1856.

[uncle bernard]

53 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

@Tripnsweep, @red viking, and @bnwtwg need to be tagged into this, unquoted. 
 

Your defense of this occurrence is despicable, disgusting, and misguided.  This was not an act of gun violence, gang violence, or a loser’s defiant going out but taking some others with me.  It has all the hallmarks, and will likely be found to be a planned political assassination, an act of terrorism.  
 

Charlie Kirk was a kind caring man who, beginning as a youth, himself, reached out to inform other young people of the common sense truth, countering the godless indoctine they were being exposed to.  A profoundly religious man, he he gave younger folks the confidence and comfort to indulge their own spirituality.  He taught by asking questions or debating all comers; students; grad students; perfessors; alike.  He spoke respectfully to people, if not their ideas.  I challenge anyone to post evidence to the contrary.  It was a kind of motto for him to say that when the talking stops, the violence begins. 
 

Charlie Kirk is being recognized as a giant.  Nobody even knew who the Hortmans were until they were killed by a nut.  Once again, Charlie Kirk was a giant.  You fellas are not. 
 

Heaven is a better place today. 

Charlie Kirk was not kind. He built a media empire by provoking younger college students and then posting clips of them to the internet so they could be relentlessly mocked by his followers.

He was a political provocateur. You can agree with his mission and his views, but he was not "kind." However, being unkind is not a capital crime. He deserved the equal protection under the law that he so famously criticized when it was afforded to black people.

[red viking]

29 minutes ago, El Luchador said:

Here is an NBC clip stating he condemned to shooting.

 

 

 

 

Glad to see. He's still way lighter on rt wing violence though. 

Yes, this killing was wrong and evil. Trump needs to ask BOTH sides to be more peaceful. 

[Offthemat]

44 minutes ago, bnwtwg said:

I am not defending the murder of anyone, ever. I said this is a logical outcome after our country had a final chance at coming together nearly 30 years ago but instead splintered to the point of no return where we are now.

 

Where was this energy for all the school shootings? 
 

If you want to play the politics game, where was this energy when the MN Speaker of the House and her husband, and a MN state senator were murdered?

I wish that this would be the a-ha moment where everyone collectively says enough is enough. But I wasn't born yesterday, I know that things are going to become more radicalized and get worse.

The only one you’re convincing is yourself.  To believe this was the logical outcome would be to adhere to the speech is violence and violence is speech philosophy.  Kirk repeatedly promoted protecting school kids.  We all do, just like we protect our banks and treasuries.  Thinking you can solve anything by taking black guns away is ignorant.  I don’t remember anyone making similar comments when the MN lawmakers were shot.  From the President down it was denounced, but it was an entirely different matter.  

[Offthemat]

21 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Charlie Kirk was not kind. He built a media empire by provoking younger college students and then posting clips of them to the internet so they could be relentlessly mocked by his followers.

He was a political provocateur. You can agree with his mission and his views, but he was not "kind." However, being unkind is not a capital crime. He deserved the equal protection under the law that he so famously criticized when it was afforded to black people.

Climb a tree to tell a lie, much?