Epstein Birthday Book Released - Sicko Trump In It

[Bigbrog]

Just now, red viking said:

All I'm seeing on here are deflections back to the Democrats. It's pathetic. The wingers say "sure, release the files...but..."

There's always a deflection thrown in there. 

Zero morals. 

No one is deflecting anywhere...deflection would mean trying to say "don't release the files"...which NO ONE on here has ever said...and which has been told to you over and over, but you refuse to listen is that WE ALL want the files released...PERIOD!!  What is happening is you are just getting called out for your atrocious takes and your weird Trump Pedophile fetish.

[uncle bernard]

1 minute ago, mspart said:

So you say nothing because "no one campaigned on it"?   What happened to this is a right or wrong issue?   You say "we have morals" but I say only when you think it benefits you.   This is a classic case in point.   If it was all that important to you on a moral basis, you would have been just as animated about this during Bidens term.   But you were not.  They were pedophiles then too.   Not just all of the sudden.   

mspart

Who cares? The sitting PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES has extremely well documented personal ties to the MOST FAMOUS PEDOPHILE IN WORLD HISTORY.

And somehow the people who have spent the last 10 years hyperventilating about liberals "grooming" children are doing everything possible to ignore the obvious. 

It's insane. It's not like this guy has a reputation as a moral paragon. He's been divorced twice. He's an admitted adulterer. He's on tape bragging about groping women. We have 30 years of weird public comments about, or even to, young women/girls - for example, repeatedly telling pre-teens that he'll be dating them soon. He was friends with a guy who was trafficking pre-teen and teenage girls to his rich associates. And we're supposed to believe that the guy who constantly talks about being attracted to those exact types of girls had no part in that? 

PATHETIC! Have some self respect!

[Bigbrog]

2 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Who cares? The sitting PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES has extremely well documented personal ties to the MOST FAMOUS PEDOPHILE IN WORLD HISTORY.

And somehow the people who have spent the last 10 years hyperventilating about liberals "grooming" children are doing everything possible to ignore the obvious. 

It's insane. It's not like this guy has a reputation as a moral paragon. He's been divorced twice. He's an admitted adulterer. He's on tape bragging about groping women. We have 30 years of weird public comments about, or even to, young women/girls - for example, repeatedly telling pre-teens that he'll be dating them soon. He was friends with a guy who was trafficking pre-teen and teenage girls to his rich associates. And we're supposed to believe that the guy who constantly talks about being attracted to those exact types of girls had no part in that? 

PATHETIC! Have some self respect!

Who the heck was this post replying to...can't be mspart as he didn't ever say or insinuate "who cares"???  And subsequently what exactly is "PATHETIC" or who needs to "Have some self respect!"???

[red viking]

[uncle bernard]

4 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

Who the heck was this post replying to...can't be mspart as he didn't ever say or insinuate "who cares"???  And subsequently what exactly is "PATHETIC" or who needs to "Have some self respect!"???

Amazing reader as usual. The "who cares?" was a genuine question because whether nor not the dems campaigned on something or didn't or whether they're hypocrites or whatever doesn't matter! The sitting president YOU ALL SUPPORT was friends with the world's most famous pedophile, and there is a pile of evidence suggesting he not only knew, but likely partook in that activity.

[ionel]

4 minutes ago, red viking said:

[Bigbrog]

4 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Amazing reader as usual. The "who cares?" was a genuine question because whether nor not the dems campaigned on something or didn't or whether they're hypocrites or whatever doesn't matter! The sitting president YOU ALL SUPPORT was friends with the world's most famous pedophile, and there is a pile of evidence suggesting he not only knew, but likely partook in that activity.

Who is pathetic and needs to have some self-respect?  And I'll wait for you to show me one post where I show my support for Trump.....especially in regards to this

[red viking]

Funny story. About a week ago, Trump made one of my dreams. I was back in HS and my HS wrestling team was going to redneck Oklahoma (Duncan to be exact) to whoop up on some redneck wrestlers. I was pretty excited about humiliating them in front of their redneck crowd. The dream started to suck though when it was almost 9pm and we were still waiting for weigh-ins to start. I also didn't notice that they had a heavyweight so was thinking I may have to just take a forfeit. 

Then Trump showed up, since he loves combat sports so much. He tried to pull me close to him and kiss my cheek, telling me that I was a great American or some BS like that. 

It was absolutely disgusting. His breath smelled like hot garbage, just like I've heard reported from other prominent people in Washington. I shoved him away but then I was thinking that he would try to arrest me for not being loyal to him. 

I think the dream ended after that. I was VERY glad to  wake up. 

[ionel]

1 minute ago, red viking said:

Funny story. About a week ago, Trump made one of my dreams ... 

I for one dont want to hear your pedo dreams.  

[mspart]

23 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Who cares? The sitting PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES has extremely well documented personal ties to the MOST FAMOUS PEDOPHILE IN WORLD HISTORY.

And somehow the people who have spent the last 10 years hyperventilating about liberals "grooming" children are doing everything possible to ignore the obvious. 

It's insane. It's not like this guy has a reputation as a moral paragon. He's been divorced twice. He's an admitted adulterer. He's on tape bragging about groping women. We have 30 years of weird public comments about, or even to, young women/girls - for example, repeatedly telling pre-teens that he'll be dating them soon. He was friends with a guy who was trafficking pre-teen and teenage girls to his rich associates. And we're supposed to believe that the guy who constantly talks about being attracted to those exact types of girls had no part in that? 

PATHETIC! Have some self respect!

So what you are saying is that all the right leaning posters on here are against releasing the files even though they have all said release the files.   The only question is why are liberals only now animated about this obvious moral issue when they were not during the Biden admin.   Was it not a moral issue then?    Could it not have derailed Trump then?   Why is it only a moral issue now that is worth getting all hot and bothered about.   It came up a number of times during the Biden admin and I don't remember you or RV screaming about how important it was to get all those pedophiles.   But now you are.   It is quite an interesting question.   

mspart

[Caveira]

34 minutes ago, red viking said:

Funny story. About a week ago, Trump made one of my dreams. I was back in HS and my HS wrestling team was going to redneck Oklahoma (Duncan to be exact) to whoop up on some redneck wrestlers. I was pretty excited about humiliating them in front of their redneck crowd. The dream started to suck though when it was almost 9pm and we were still waiting for weigh-ins to start. I also didn't notice that they had a heavyweight so was thinking I may have to just take a forfeit. 

Then Trump showed up, since he loves combat sports so much. He tried to pull me close to him and kiss my cheek, telling me that I was a great American or some BS like that. 

It was absolutely disgusting. His breath smelled like hot garbage, just like I've heard reported from other prominent people in Washington. I shoved him away but then I was thinking that he would try to arrest me for not being loyal to him. 

I think the dream ended after that. I was VERY glad to  wake up. 

No one cares about your dreams boss.   Also I bet no one believes this isn’t made up either but also meh who cares 

[ionel]

9 minutes ago, Caveira said:

No one cares about your dreams boss.   Also I bet no one believes this isn’t made up either but also meh who cares 

Gotta be some higher level of TDS when Trump is so stuck in you head you dream about him.

[red viking]

25 minutes ago, ionel said:

Gotta be some higher level of TDS when Trump is so stuck in you head you dream about him.

First one I remember. The dream shows that I'm so creeped out by his pedo behaviors that I would worry about being groped by him if I were in HS (even as a guy). 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

2 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

Yes, he would still need to be tried in a court of law. Awesome gotcha, man.

Sure thing, bro.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

1 hour ago, uncle bernard said:

Who cares? The sitting PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES has extremely well documented personal ties to the MOST FAMOUS PEDOPHILE IN WORLD HISTORY.

And somehow the people who have spent the last 10 years hyperventilating about liberals "grooming" children are doing everything possible to ignore the obvious. 

It's insane. It's not like this guy has a reputation as a moral paragon. He's been divorced twice. He's an admitted adulterer. He's on tape bragging about groping women. We have 30 years of weird public comments about, or even to, young women/girls - for example, repeatedly telling pre-teens that he'll be dating them soon. He was friends with a guy who was trafficking pre-teen and teenage girls to his rich associates. And we're supposed to believe that the guy who constantly talks about being attracted to those exact types of girls had no part in that? 

PATHETIC! Have some self respect!

Definitely not the most famous pedophile in world history.  You typed all that but led off with a lie...

[Doublehalf]

2 hours ago, Bigbrog said:

No one is deflecting anywhere...deflection would mean trying to say "don't release the files"...which NO ONE on here has ever said

What you described isn't deflection... deflection is changing course, deviating from the subject, changing the subject altogether or engaging in whataboutism. Your point is invalidated in that the example itself is not at all what deflection is. 
 

Examples of deflection from the MAGA folks have been more along the lines of:

"the files are compromised, we'll never see them anyways..."

"Why didn't they get released under Biden???"

"Bill Clinton this and that..."

 

and so on...

[Caveira]

5 minutes ago, Doublehalf said:

Why didn't they get released under Biden???

But why didn’t they?

[Doublehalf]

I can't speak for all but I can speak for myself about the question that's been repeated on here ad nauseum by the "deflectors"

Why weren't democrats screaming about this when Biden was president????

 

So similar to how liberals have tried to indict Trump on every single thing he does and all of us have become desensitized to it- the same goes for MAGA.

We've been hearing about all your crazy nonsense for years about Jewish space lasers, Pizza gate, stolen elections, Tom Hanks being apart of the elite cult that drinks kids' blood and so on...

When MAGA started crying about the Epstein files I really didn't pay it much attention because it just seemed like another one of their crazy conspiracy theories so just as all you MAGA folks disregard the left, I disregarded them/you.

It wasn't until I saw the parade of people brought into the White House holding binders with "Epstein Files" printed on them and subsequently those people being disappointed by the non release of information and the botching and double speak of the AG that I really started to pay attention. Then when Trump started screaming about how it's a Hoax by the democrats and tried a million things to redirect public attention I thought, "hey, he's really scared shitless by this..."

Now last week you have the speaker of the house claiming he was an FBI informant which the White House denies (because we all know 99% of FBI informants are typically nefarious people themselves trying to save their own a$$) You also have him going after Massie and others calling it a hostile act to be transparent with the files and it's really hard to ignore there isn't something damaging to him in some way in them.

You also had Massie release a name from the Epstein Black book this week that was a major Trump donor... (Again I'm certain there are those in both parties that are implicated)

Do I want Trump to get what's always been coming to him? Absolutely. But I also don't care if it drags down all these other elites and republicans/democrats alike if they are guilty of said crimes or engaging in the covering up of them. You don't have to be a pedo to be complicit and held accountable. 

So that is my explanation, and there has been a MONUMENTAL effort by the MAGAs on here to deflect and change the subject but no one has directly mentioned Trump by name and said "If Trump is on it, he should go down with all of them and all his connections and circumstial evidence of at least some level of involvement are suspicious at the absolutely least."

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Doublehalf

[Doublehalf]

14 minutes ago, Caveira said:

But why didn’t they?

I had anticipated your deflection and already started to type the response above. At least now you can take me off your list of asking the same question over and over and over and over and over and well you get the point I'm sure...maybe

Edited 3 hours ago by Doublehalf

[Doublehalf]

39 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Definitely not the most famous pedophile in world history.  You typed all that but led off with a lie...

Didn't realize we had an expert among us on pedophiles through history... interesting... gross - but interesting...

Edited 3 hours ago by Doublehalf

[JimmySpeaks]

2 minutes ago, Doublehalf said:

Didn't realize we had an expert among us on pedophiles through history... interesting... gross - but interesting...

IKR?  RV sure talks about it a lot. 

[JimmySpeaks]

If there was anything of value on Trump it would have already been released.  It’s that simple. 

[Doublehalf]

7 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

 

If there was anything of value on Trump it would have already been released.  It’s that simple

 

If there are just as many liberal billionaires donors on the list as billionaire MAGA donors it would be a self inflicted wound to them. They probably weighed the cost/benefit analysis of Taking Trump down and realized it would be world ending for everyone involved so they didn't go there...

I think we still all underestimate just what people are willing to do to keep their wealth and power intact. We are on here fighting incessantly because that's exactly what all these oligarchs want. If we ever agreed that we had more in common than we don't and turned our collective ire at them to make things better or face the consequences - it would be devastating to them from both influence and a money perspective. 

We now are so entrenched on our own tribes that even when there is something basic like kids not going hungry at school or people being allowed to keep firearms (albeit as long as they aren't nuts) out starting point is at the very end of the continuum and we won't even consider it. We disagree just because people are on opposite teams which is ridiculous.

 

The Epstein files are a nuclear bomb and democrats and republicans/MAGA live in the same house. They pass the bomb back and forth and hate each other but neither are willing to detonate it because self preservation is more important than taking out their foe.

Edited 2 hours ago by Doublehalf

[Caveira]

11 minutes ago, Doublehalf said:

I had anticipated your deflection and already started to type the response above. At least now you can take me off your list of asking the same question over and over and over and over and over and well you get the point I'm sure...maybe

So the left has no moral downside here.  They can on one hand not hold themselves to any standard at all.  They (Ds) don’t have to get justice for those kids….. Then hold their political rivals accountable for it.  To try to score points for the upcoming election.   Weird right?  
 

seems like politics to me boss.    Good old fashioned politics.  What’s good for me but not for thee.  
 

Also.   Release the files.  

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

14 minutes ago, Doublehalf said:

Didn't realize we had an expert among us on pedophiles through history... interesting... gross - but interesting...

I mean, I assume you've heard of Julius Caesar?  Maybe founders of a world religion or two/  That's just for starters.  And more evidence on them than Trump.