Starving Children in Gaza

[El Luchador]

 

 

 

[mspart]

Unconscionable.

mspart  

[red viking]

110% bs. Israeli propaganda. Don't be dumb. Yes this may happen but if u do some research you'll see this isn't close to the main problem and even most of the rotting occurs before it can even get through israeli blockades. 

[Caveira]

6 minutes ago, red viking said:

110% bs. Israeli propaganda. Don't be dumb. Yes this may happen but if u do some research you'll see this isn't close to the main problem and even most of the rotting occurs before it can even get through israeli blockades. 

Link to your proof ?

[red viking]

34 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Link to your proof ?

Pretty much everything except the Israeli govt and fringe right whack jobs. 

[Caveira]

24 minutes ago, red viking said:

Pretty much everything except the Israeli govt and fringe right whack jobs. 

I mean.  Then it must be true.  You’re super convincing. 

[uncle bernard]

Blatant propaganda. This happens because Israel severely limits the amount of trucks that are allowed to enter the strip, purposefully limiting the amount of aid that actually makes it into Gaza.

Half their cabinet gets on TV and says they shouldn't be allowing any aid into Gaza at all. The other half says they should, but only the bare minimum to avoid the charge of genocide and famine. That is the official Israeli policy.

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/middle-east/gaza-food-starvation-aid-distribution-israel-rcna221225

Aid agencies say they would like to deliver aid, but that Israel has riddled the process with delays and denials, changing schedules and routes, sometimes at the last minute, making it difficult or impossible to safely retrieve the aid for distribution.

Half of the 138 requests the World Food Programme made in the last week to collect aid from holding sites were denied, the agency said Friday.

Even after being approved to load the aid, the WFP said, “convoys are typically delayed” and take as much as 46 hours before receiving the final approval to travel along the strip.

Israel has long maintained that the restrictions are in place to prevent Hamas from stealing the food, though an internal U.S. government analysis [conducted by Trump administration] found no evidence of systematic theft of the supplies by Hamas over the past 20 months.

Additionally, OCHA, the UN's humanitarian agency, has likewise not seen signs of Hamas diverting aid, and WFP has also previously told NBC News they have not seen evidence of aid diversion.

WFP on Friday said it had 300 trucks of aid waiting to be distributed inside Gaza, and UNRWA, the U.N.’s humanitarian agency for Palestinians, said it had about 6,000 aid trucks in Jordan and Egypt also waiting to be approved.

[uncle bernard]

2 hours ago, mspart said:

Unconscionable.

mspart  

You are the most gullible man alive. 

[mspart]

I have no doubt there is starvation in Gaza.   Why is Hamas not feeding them or arranging to feed them.   You would think this would be the top consideration for them.   But I heard a top Hamas official a year or two ago asked a similar question and he said that the Palestinians are not Hamas's responsibility, they are the UN's responsibility.   

https://cis.org/Rush/Hamas-Official-Protecting-Civilians-Gaza-UN-Refugee-Agencies-Funded-US

mspart

[Offthemat]

If there’s real famine going on in Gaza then why do they keep using fake pictures to show it?

[mspart]

18 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

You are the most gullible man alive. 

When you believe news sources that have been shown to continually and maliciously falsify their reports for a political advantage, I'd say the degree of gullibility on your part out weighs most of the free world.   Israel has shipped 1.3 million tons of aid.   Where is that aid?   What happened to it?  Apparently the Gazans are not eating it because they are starving.   What say you?

mspart

[uncle bernard]

32 minutes ago, mspart said:

When you believe news sources that have been shown to continually and maliciously falsify their reports for a political advantage, I'd say the degree of gullibility on your part out weighs most of the free world.   Israel has shipped 1.3 million tons of aid.   Where is that aid?   What happened to it?  Apparently the Gazans are not eating it because they are starving.   What say you?

mspart

Your first sentence perfectly describes the IDF, as reported by our own government and intelligence agencies, including the Trump administration.

The aid is not making it into the strip. Israel can say it "shipped" however much it wants, but they know they're only letting a fraction of it into Gaza. This is well documented by a variety of independent observers on the border, but you plug your ears because you won't believe anything that goes against your ideological priors.

[uncle bernard]

44 minutes ago, mspart said:

I have no doubt there is starvation in Gaza.   Why is Hamas not feeding them or arranging to feed them.   You would think this would be the top consideration for them.   But I heard a top Hamas official a year or two ago asked a similar question and he said that the Palestinians are not Hamas's responsibility, they are the UN's responsibility.   

https://cis.org/Rush/Hamas-Official-Protecting-Civilians-Gaza-UN-Refugee-Agencies-Funded-US

mspart

Damn, it's almost like Hamas is a terrorist organization or something. 

This might sound crazy to you, but if Israel doesn't want to be labelled a terror organization like Hamas, they have to stop behaving like Hamas. It's called *having moral standards.* 

[mspart]

So people starving in the an area controlled by terrorists doesn't make you wonder?   No, you assume it is the neighbor next door that is sending the aid and then preventing the aid from getting  to the intended target.   This is nutty thinking.  

mspart

[uncle bernard]

17 minutes ago, mspart said:

So people starving in the an area controlled by terrorists doesn't make you wonder?   No, you assume it is the neighbor next door that is sending the aid and then preventing the aid from getting  to the intended target.   This is nutty thinking.  

mspart

You have piss poor reading comprehension. Obviously, Hamas isn't governing Gaza ethically and helping people find food and shelter. They are terrorists! That is terrorist behavior. Israel is also doing that, despite international law making it very clear they have the obligation, as the occupying power, to provide for those people. If Israel doesn't want to be labelled a terror state, they should stop acting like one.

Is Hamas stealing aid? Probably some! But Trump's government looked into it and found no evidence of widespread theft. What we DO know for a 100% fact is that Israel is only allowing a small fraction of aid trucks into the strip each day, causing aid to be left to rot as shown in the video. Israel itself reports this as true in their official reports.

Israel prevented all aid from entering Gaza for 3 months. The months since lifting the total blockade, they've only let in a tiny amount of aid. They use out of context numbers to fool people like you into thinking they're providing enough aid. For example, Israel claimed it delivered over 5 million meals over the course of a week. That sounds like a lot of food. It's not. It averages out to about a half meal per day per person - assuming all the food made it to the destination, which we know that it's not. Following 3 months of total blockade, this is not enough to prevent famine.

[red viking]

Absolutely blows my mind that somebody can just watch a YouTube video from israeli govt (no agenda there, huh?) and blindly accept it at face value despite the overwhelming evidence that indicates otherwise. 

[red viking]

14 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

 

Is Hamas stealing aid? Probably some! 

Of course they are, but do people expect them to starve themselves when they have the guns? Nobody would do that. When you have a famine and weak government control, there are some things that are guaranteed, no matter where. The people w the weapons will probably eat. Secondly, there will also be stockpiling going on. I don't care if it's Gaza, Russia, Japan or the U.S. That's what will happen.

Allow them plenty of food and this isn't a big problem. 

Edited 5 hours ago by red viking

[Caveira]

1 hour ago, uncle bernard said:

Your first sentence perfectly describes the IDF, as reported by our own government and intelligence agencies, including the Trump administration.

The aid is not making it into the strip. Israel can say it "shipped" however much it wants, but they know they're only letting a fraction of it into Gaza. This is well documented by a variety of independent observers on the border, but you plug your ears because you won't believe anything that goes against your ideological priors.

does not sound like wide spread starvation  

Information from Gaza's Ministry of Health, reported on August 19, 2025, states 266 Palestinians, including 122 children, have died as a result of starvation and malnutrition in Gaza since October 7, 2023. 

[El Luchador]

5 hours ago, red viking said:

110% bs. Israeli propaganda. Don't be dumb. Yes this may happen but if u do some research you'll see this isn't close to the main problem and even most of the rotting occurs before it can even get through israeli blockades. 

Yes your post is 110% bs. Better be careful Erin may get you. 

[El Luchador]

2 hours ago, red viking said:

Absolutely blows my mind that somebody can just watch a YouTube video from israeli govt (no agenda there, huh?) and blindly accept it at face value despite the overwhelming evidence that indicates otherwise. 

Not as foolish sounding as believing stats from a terrorist organization that videotaped a Massacre and showed raped women bleeding from their crotches while cheering. 

[ionel]

3 minutes ago, El Luchador said:

Yes your post is 110% bs. Better be careful Erin may get you. 

Little known fact: rv put the s&i* in the bull.  One of his part time jobs.  

[El Luchador]

7 minutes ago, ionel said:

Little known fact: rv put the s&i* in the bull.  One of his part time jobs.  

If you can get it back in there it reduces greenhouse gasses. Somebody has to do it or we'll all be eating bugs

[ionel]

8 minutes ago, El Luchador said:

If you can get it back in there it reduces greenhouse gasses. Somebody has to do it or we'll all be eating bugs

110%

[1032004]

6 hours ago, Caveira said:

Link to your proof ?

Well for one unless they’re using Ford Rangers to make the deliveries there is little chance that is 600 trucks worth of aid.

[Tripnsweep]

I kind of feel bad, but they elected Hamas so they kind of are getting what they voted for. They had to have known that Hamas was going to be more interested in trying to antagonize Israel than governing or doing things to help people. Yet they voted for them anyway.